threegee Posted November 20, 2012 Report Posted November 20, 2012 We are being warned about "sleepwalking out of the EU". Well Mr Milliband, wasn't that exactly the way you lot got us into the Common Market - sorry EU - in the first place?Blowing £8,100,000,000 of our tax money every single year (Treasury figures) on the 17 EU nations that are constantly on the take seems to me like a rather good thing to be sleepwalking out of! And...they want to increase their budget by yet another 5% this year! Are you going to tell us how much of that is to come out of the UK taxpayer's back pocket too?BTW that's £22,191,780 every single day - going on for a million pounds every hour. Remember this when you are told of drastic cuts to services to save a paltry few hundred thousand here or there. What's even worse is that money leaves the UK economy altogether, it's not recycled into further taxable income for Brits as most of our own government spending is!
Adam Hogg Posted November 20, 2012 Report Posted November 20, 2012 We are being warned about "sleepwalking out of the EU". Well Mr Milliband, wasn't that exactly the way you lot got us into the Common Market - sorry EU - in the first place?Blowing £8,100,000,000 of our tax money every single year (Treasury figures) on the 17 EU nations that are constantly on the take seems to me like a rather good thing to be sleepwalking out of! And...they want to increase their budget by yet another 5% this year! Are you going to tell us how much of that is to come out of the UK taxpayer's back pocket too?BTW that's £22,191,780 every single day - going on for a million pounds every hour. Remember this when you are told of drastic cuts to services to save a paltry few hundred thousand here or there. What's even worse is that money leaves the UK economy altogether, it's not recycled into further taxable income for Brits as most of our own government spending is!The best thing for us the UK to do would be to withdraw for the EU but have a trade agreement with the EU so we don't lose any trade, whatever we trade now a days.
threegee Posted November 20, 2012 Author Report Posted November 20, 2012 The best thing for us the UK to do would be to withdraw for the EU but have a trade agreement with the EU so we don't lose any trade, whatever we trade now a days.Goodness - you've been reading those UKIP pamphlets again! It used to be called EFTA (European Free Trade Area) and it worked! Or it worked until we sold the other EFTA members down the river, just like we did the Commonwealth. Why our politicians did this wasn't clear to most folks at the time - now it's crystal clear! There was a hidden agenda to the "Common Market" to become a federal state. Ted Heath admitted this some years later, and even went as far as saying that he would have said anything or done anything to bring this about. In fact he didn't need much help with those lies as the conspiracy went right across party lines.Don't fall for this "we must be at the heart of Europe" crap! It's meaningless; we are an island with whole-world connections and always will be. We've thrown away so much that is valuable in pursuit of the heart-of-Europe nonsense. We need Europe and Europe needs us so much that staying in a European free trade area (once again) will pose no problems. In fact being outside the Euro mechanism we're already there economically, it's just a matter of getting Brussels out of our legal system, and ending this European Parliament nonsense. We won't lose a scrap of trade, and neither will they. But, we will be in a much better position to trade with the rest of the world, and maybe develop other free trade agreements to compliment those with Europe.
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