Land for Development - Bedlington/Nedderton

[toffo]

Miller homes planning to develop land on road to Nedserton even though a simlar application has just been refused on the opposite side! What about Bedlington council investing in better facilities instead of more housing that really isn't needed!(apologies for spelling using phone and cant undo errors!)

[Malcolm Robinson]

toffo.......Its got NOWT to do with Bedlington Council, believe me. If you want to throw anything throw it at NCC!

[toffo]

Malcolm surely our parish council has a say? And can voice opinions of residents?

[toffo]

For the record in not shy to throw the proverbial and county either, they will and do get my opinion on any matter that has an impact on us!

[tomtom]

I'm somewhat  concerned at the Miller Homes planning application for the houses just to the north of the B1331 and abutting the current houses on Meadowdale Farm estate. Whilst I will most certainly be attending the public meeting I wonder if any other contributors to this forum feel as I do. There is not the infrastructure in Bedlington to support an increased populace for a start to say nothing of the destruction of green field farming land and the strip of woodland running alongside (Green Letch ) - is this strip of woodland tended (owned)? by the Woodland Trust.

[John Fox (foxy)]

Malcolm surely our parish council has a say? And can voice opinions of residents?

Toffo, have you ever considered going to the Council Meeting and voicing your own opinions? There are only nine regular residents who attend these meetings, it would certainly help if we could have more support from the people in the Town.

[Malcolm Robinson]

Toffo,

Town Council can only submit a response..........personally I am not even sure our replies are looked at, although I have been assured they are!.........................................................................................

There are a lot of people commentating on Facebook about this development now. Maybe this is the one too far and we might even see the community galvanised into a strong and determined pressure group for our Town......................................................

[tomtom]

Malcolm - Hope springs eternal as they say!

[Malcolm Robinson]

While we are on this subject...........

http://www.nicholsonnairn.co.uk/project-template.php?id=60

[tomtom]

Looked to be a great development of the old school site - so why didn't it go ahead? and is anything likely to happen in the future.

[Malcolm Robinson]

Imminently I believe tomtom…………

[ex Bedlingtonian]

Malcolm, can you clarify the east/west Bedlington Council boundaries - there is a bit of an argument going on here between myself and Mr. ex-B.

[Adam Hogg]

While we are on this subject........... http://www.nicholsonnairn.co.uk/project-template.php?id=60

Ah Malcolm but who is delivering it?

[Malcolm Robinson]

I will get back to you ex B because they changed at the last election! I have asked for a map of West Bedlington already, you have given me a reason not to let it go!

[toffo]

Toffo, have you ever considered going to the Council Meeting and voicing your own opinions? There are only nine regular residents who attend these meetings, it would certainly help if we could have more support from the people in the Town.

Foxy due to the nature of my employemnt I'm away from home a fair bit and dates often clash, however I will endeavour to attend the meetings, if dates are put up on here

[toffo]

Toffo,

Town Council can only submit a response..........personally I am not even sure our replies are looked at, although I have been assured they are!.........................................................................................

There are a lot of people commentating on Facebook about this development now. Maybe this is the one too far and we might even see the community galvanised into a strong and determined pressure group for our Town......................................................

Hopefully Malcolm the community did get together recently and a 76m wind turbine was rejected for the same site I beleive, as well as development opposite recently and in the past!

http://publicaccess.northumberland.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&keyVal=9400011168FUL

[Malcolm Robinson]

toffo,

I don't want to prempt anything so I'll say nowt apart from it was the MOD who eventually squashed that turbine and we might not have heard the last of the those other houses.

[Maggie/915]

If you want to see what is happening do not forget tomorrow and the Core Strategy Plan

[mercuryg]

toffo, I don't want to prempt anything so I'll say nowt apart from it was the MOD who eventually squashed that turbine and we might not have heard the last of the those other houses.

 

Malcolm, this has long intrigued me; why did the MOD object to the turbine (I would have done too, I hate the things, waste of space); it's not as if they have low flying jets around here, so was it something to do with radar?

 

As for the houses, my mother - who was the very first resident of the then new Hazelmere Estate - has received the letter outlining it, and says she has no objection. I have to say I see her point. Hazelmere is a nice estate to live on; it's a cleverly designed not to involve too much regimented conformity. Her point is that if other people want a similarly nice place to live, then give them the chance. Clearly there is demand as the houses that are currently being built on the 'spare; land that was left within the estate have pretty much all been snapped up. Not wanting to provoke ire, and I'm a great one for enjoying our green spaces, but the population of the town WILL grow, and more homes will be needed.

[Adam Hogg]

Malcolm, this has long intrigued me; why did the MOD object to the turbine (I would have done too, I hate the things, waste of space); it's not as if they have low flying jets around here, so was it something to do with radar?

 

As for the houses, my mother - who was the very first resident of the then new Hazelmere Estate - has received the letter outlining it, and says she has no objection. I have to say I see her point. Hazelmere is a nice estate to live on; it's a cleverly designed not to involve too much regimented conformity. Her point is that if other people want a similarly nice place to live, then give them the chance. Clearly there is demand as the houses that are currently being built on the 'spare; land that was left within the estate have pretty much all been snapped up. Not wanting to provoke ire, and I'm a great one for enjoying our green spaces, but the population of the town WILL grow, and more homes will be needed.

First point Merc, The MOD objected in part with Newcastle international Airport, Both said it would affect the radar at Newcastle and thus make flights in the area unsafe due to that they objected and the application for the wind turbine was withdrawn by the applicant.

 

Second point Merc, the land was not "Spare" it was the community gain which was earmarked for a pub, community centre and shop, but I wonder why the powers that be never enforced it

Also if there is demand for them type of houses why are ones standing empty in Hazelmere, slaley court, Hartford hall all for which are "new" estates.

[Malcolm Robinson]

Merc,..I'm kinda with you on your main point, I take it as a compliment people want to come and live in Bedlington and buy a house here. Or developers think they do anyway! The objection I have is that there isn't any infrastructure to support the community 25 years ago never mind now. Lack of recreational avenues and no investment into the commercial offer have left us hopelessly mismatched as a viable Town.

[mercuryg]

"Second point Merc, the land was not "Spare" it was the community gain which was earmarked for a pub, community centre and shop, but I wonder why the powers that be never enforced it"

 

I am aware of that; my mother bought her house off-plan, we watched it being built, and she moved in when those around her were still just frames. At that point the land on the plans was indeed for those schemes you mention; the residents didn't want a pub, a shop might have been nice, and a community centre I don't believe would have been used to any reasonable extent. I'm not being contrary here: I lived their for many years, know many families (including a sister) who also live there, and it was clear there was no demand for the original proposed schemes, not were there any takers to build a pub on the site, anyhow.

 

"Also if there is demand for them type of houses why are ones standing empty in Hazelmere, slaley court, Hartford hall all for which are "new" estates."

 

Hartford Hall is ludicrously expensive for what it is; it's also rife with problems, from what I've heard. I am not aware of any empty properties on Hazelmere, although you may be able to correct me on that, and don't know Slaley Court. With respect, while I understand your commitment to the locale and the community - it is indeed admirable - it's a little rash to throw one's hands up on horror at the prospect of investing in housing for future inhabitants. You may believe you have the concerns of locals at heart - and in many cases you have, and that's very loyal of you - but what of those who live in their parents homes now and, in a few years, will have jobs, families and such - and parents still living - an want their own home in their home town? It's a necessary consideration, and there's a lot more to it than 'we don't want more houses in our lovely green fields'. For the record, I've yet to find anyone on Hazelmere who objects to the scheme. After all, it will barely register on their radar. Personally, I'm not bothered one way or the other, but you have to remember that, in business, nobody produces anything unless someone wants it. The same applies to housing.

[Adam Hogg]

"Also if there is demand for them type of houses why are ones standing empty in Hazelmere, slaley court, Hartford hall all for which are "new" estates."

 

Hartford Hall is ludicrously expensive for what it is; it's also rife with problems, from what I've heard. I am not aware of any empty properties on Hazelmere, although you may be able to correct me on that, and don't know Slaley Court. With respect, while I understand your commitment to the locale and the community - it is indeed admirable - it's a little rash to throw one's hands up on horror at the prospect of investing in housing for future inhabitants. You may believe you have the concerns of locals at heart - and in many cases you have, and that's very loyal of you - but what of those who live in their parents homes now and, in a few years, will have jobs, families and such - and parents still living - an want their own home in their home town? It's a necessary consideration, and there's a lot more to it than 'we don't want more houses in our lovely green fields'. For the record, I've yet to find anyone on Hazelmere who objects to the scheme. After all, it will barely register on their radar. Personally, I'm not bothered one way or the other, but you have to remember that, in business, nobody produces anything unless someone wants it. The same applies to housing.

Just quickly looking Merc 3 properties empty/up for sale in Hazelmere to start and that is just a quick look on one website (Mike Rogerson)

 

One thing you highlight is "what of those who live in their parents homes now and, in a few years, will have jobs, families and such - and parents still living - an want their own home in their home town?"

They may want to live in the area but will they work in the area, socialise in the area?

Personally I think not because there is no decent shopping provision only Morrison or Tesco, no industrial work (I mean warehousing, factory work, etc. before anyone goes "christ he is on about the pits again")

Why I think that because there is no plan for Business or industry, thus people will be drawn away closer to where they work when everything rises in price (which it will), which is sadly out of the town.

[mercuryg]

"3 properties empty/up for sale in Hazelmere"

 

is that empty, or up for sale? Again, I'm not being deliberately obtuse; there will always be houses for sale as people need bigger properties, or downsize.

 

"They may want to live in the area but will they work in the area, socialise in the area?"

 

Why not? Work in the area perhaps not - this is a commuter town already, has been for many years - but socialise in the area, of course, they already do. For example: why would anyone from bedlington choose to eat out anywhere other than here?The town has several highly regarded restaurants, after all. The social scene is not as it was 20 years ago, trends change, but everything is still here. I don't see the demographic of persons working locales changing much in the next few decades, bar the fact that many more people will start telecommuting, which will of course mean they can live where they want. Local shops may be poor, but I'd much rather have independent, boutique shops in the town than major supermarkets, of which there are several within easy driving distance. Your idea that things will become more expensive is of course right, but in relative terms the availability of online shopping (which is very much the future) will allow for prices to be driven down. It's already happening in the online services industry, within which I work.

 

I admire your attitude very much, but - and this is with respect once more, as I have plenty for you - I do think you're beliefs are very much those of someone who has yet to amass the life experience that will allow you to look at the bigger picture. Quite simply, the digital age is upon us; we don't actually need shops when all is said and done, and that will become more evident much more quickly than you realise.

[toffo]

We were informed the spare land on Hazelmere ten years ago was allocated for a first school, I think the majority of residents on Hazelmere would have welcomed the afore mentioned shops / pub / school if asked, last year? if this new build goes ahead surely school / traffic congestion will worsen? Wonder where the supporters will stand then if having to run the gauntlet of leaving arriving during peak times?