Who owns the land?

[Christopher Doyle]

My new living quarters has a derelict site across the back lane. Most of the other residents have developed this land adjacent to their property by adding a small shed/garage and developing a small allotment type area.

 

I've looked up the boundaries of my property and it ends where the lane starts.

 

How do I find out who owns the land opposite, to get permission to use it?

 

Since there is no actual address for it that i am aware of, I'm finding it difficult to get information.

 

The area is much like that of the properties along Rothesay Terrace, with the house, the back lane, then the area of land beyond.

[Malcolm Robinson]

Normally County Council Christopher. Thats where to ask........

[Christopher Doyle]

Which is where Malcolm? Where exactly would I go to ask?

[Christopher Doyle]

Anyone?

 

Are we talking Bedlington council offices?

Ashington?

Morpeth county hall?

[John Fox (foxy)]

Anyone?

 

Are we talking Bedlington council offices?

Ashington?

Morpeth county hall?

I would have tried Land Registry, when I bought the freehold for my property they sent me a plan of my Gardens and boundaries, it just about shows where every spuggie  sh***s.

[Malcolm Robinson]

Sorry Chris been a tad busy. Anyway, yes County hall or to be more exact the planning department.

[Christopher Doyle]

I would have tried Land Registry, when I bought the freehold for my property they sent me a plan of my Gardens and boundaries, it just about shows where every spuggie  sh***s.

yup, i did the same for mine, however the land in question has no address.

 

I think you can get copies of boundary plans online for a few quid, but you need the full address to get the information.

 

Thanks again Malcolm

[Symptoms]

The Land Registry should provide you with a 'Block Plan' showing your crib & land plus all neighbouring stuff.  Each plot will be identified with a number or letter allowing owner ID but this is only the case if the plot has been registered.  A suprising amount of land isn't registered because it's remained in the same hands for decades and hasn't been 'transferred' to new owners since 1990 (I think that date is correct ... from memory).  Most councils have 'online' planning portals and with a bit of imagination it's possible to navigate these and 'deduce' ownership of parcels of land and neighbouring holdings, eg. has a named neighbour objected to an application, and so on.  Another trick is to see if there's any leasehold land in the area via the Land Registry and ask the Leaseholder (or more probably their agent) if they own the plot you're interested in;  many 'historic' Leaseholders transferred bits of their holdings, say for housing developments, but retained odd bits.

Edited January 16, 2015 by Symptoms

[Adam Hogg]

yup, i did the same for mine, however the land in question has no address.

 

I think you can get copies of boundary plans online for a few quid, but you need the full address to get the information.

 

Thanks again Malcolm

Chris, There is a section on the land registry site that is a map enquiry.

All you do is click on the map where you want to search, then the map will come up, find the place you want to find info about, zoom right in, then the Find properties option will be able to be selected, click on, then click the place on the map where you want to find the info about and you should be fine.

[Christopher Doyle]

Linkypoo?

[John Fox (foxy)]

Its hardly Rocket Science.........Its now becoming...........   boring

[Christopher Doyle]

Its like everything else in life, If you don't know, you don't know.

 

Heaven forbid anyone ask for a little help.

 

Castle wall thick, that's how thick.

 

I'm not here asking after doing no research at all. I have looked into it. I hit a wall.

 

My apologies to you and your wasted 10 seconds of life you took to read and reply, but thanks for the response anyway. Nice to see the friendly moderators chipping in on resident issues.

[John Fox (foxy)]

Christopher,

                        the friendly moderators on this site have an opinion as well as the friendly members on this site. You've  had four people giving advice and each one gets a negative from you, What is it your looking for?

[Christopher Doyle]

I apologise, i fail to see where any negativity came into any response before your reply.

 

I'll sleep on it an revisit it in the morning.

 

Just in case it is not clear, I appreciate all of the previous responses, and thank the posters for their input. I was merely trying to clarify the information.

 

My apologies if any offense was taken, that was not my intent. The "moderators" quip was directed at foxy's reply alone.

[Christopher Doyle]

Each plot will be identified with a number or letter allowing owner ID but this is only the case if the plot has been registered.

If such a site did not have such a number, what would that mean exactly?

[Malcolm Robinson]

Christopher, its probably county owned (if I understand where it is you are asking about) just ask the councty council.

[Christopher Doyle]

Thanks Malcolm, I think I have enough now to make the trip!

 

Hopefully this has saved me days of wandering aimlessly

[mercuryg]

Behind my mums garden fence there lies a couple of yards more of overgrown land. Many years ago she and the neighbours enquired as to the ownership of said land. The council said it's not theirs. So it's nobody's. I'm going to erect a tent, and live there.

[John Fox (foxy)]

 I'm going to erect a tent, and live there.

Have you given any advance notice that your vacating Table 25?

[Brett]

If you go on to Land Registry Portal and zoom right in to the property/land where you want to view the details.

 

Then turn on Find Properties (this only becomes active when you zoom in far enough)

 

This allows you to select the area on the map and displays the results before for potential plots.

 

 

This tells you the address associated to the bit of land you selected and in this particular case it is freehold.

 

I would assume if it's free hold then the council can help.

[mercuryg]

Have you given any advance notice that your vacating Table 25?

 

I moved on from 25 some time ago when it became the domain of the Morning Club (nowt against them, lovely lads) and there is no nearby plug to power the laptop. I now frequent table 36, otherwise known as 'Stevie's Office'. It also has a radiator next to it, and a window view of the Front Street plus an overall panoramic view of the pub.

[Symptoms]

CD wrote: "If such a site did not have such a number, what would that mean exactly?"

 

It means it ain't registered as freehold or leasehold ... if it had been registered it would have an ID number or letter. 

Edited January 17, 2015 by Symptoms