threegee Posted April 7, 2016 Report Posted April 7, 2016 Well, we now know the result of Dave's thinking time alone in Lanzarote - his conclusion as to why he's losing all the arguments is that he's not applied enough spin. His solution: to spend another £9.5 million of desperately needed taxpayers money on a leaflet to all households. This is, of course, exactly the same tactic used by Harold Wilson in 1975. If you re-examine that leaflet all the lies and half truths are now very transparent, and we now know that the promoters knew that it was a deception - they've since admitted it was! His justification for this leaflet is that there's a huge demand from the public to know the facts as they are confused. Well Dave, if you genuinely believe this then subject your EU propaganda sheet to a panel of independent economists, constitutional experts, and business people for scrutiny, once it has been signed off by your spin HQ. Let them determine what is fact and what if pure elitist propaganda, and then edit it appropriately. If you are not prepared to do this then there's a very good home for the leaflet we are being forced to pay for - straight in the waste bin! Dave's other tactic is an appeal to younger people - "after all it is their future". Too true, as, like the older generation, they will be stripped of all democratic right to say this isn't working and we've been lied to for virtually the rest of their lives: It's there in black and white: "There will be no second referendum". That last statement is another half-truth of course; following a Leave vote there will be as many referenda as it takes to try to get them to say yes; that's until we get a government of the people this nation can once again trust. Though, once Pied-Piper Cameron leads them through the trapdoor into that mountain called EU Superstate it will be tragic end-of-story. Quote "You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time." - Abraham Lincoln EU Addendum: ...though, if you fool them into agreeing to a forfeiture of their democratic rights, you no longer need try. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-democracy) 3
webtrekker Posted April 7, 2016 Report Posted April 7, 2016 Yes, but all that pales into insignificance 3G when you consider the disastrous effect leaving the EU will have on FOOTBALL! SHOCK! HORROR! No, we must NEVER leave the EU. NEVER, I say! 1
threegee Posted April 7, 2016 Author Report Posted April 7, 2016 Over 100,000 have already signed, which pretty much guarantees a parliamentary debate. Is this a record in so short a time? A few more signatures won't hurt though. https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/116762 Apparently you can't stop the Post Office delivering the thing as the opt-out process takes about six weeks, and registering an opt-out could also block stuff you actually want. Interesting though that the printing was done by a UK subsidiary of the German Post Office, and is a company which itself regularly receives subsidies from the EU. This leaves a casual observer wondering exactly how the £9.2M order was actually placed. Also interesting that the pamphlet - which purports to be the balanced advice of an elected government - was produced entirely behind the backs of several senior cabinet ministers of that self-same elected government. I don't think Desperate Dave has heard the last of this; and maybe needs to fly back to the sunshine for more time to think? 2
webtrekker Posted April 7, 2016 Report Posted April 7, 2016 Hmmm... 27 million pamphlets. Would that be enough to block the Channel Tunnel? Just wondering. 1
threegee Posted April 8, 2016 Author Report Posted April 8, 2016 Yet another minister who most certainly doesn't subscribe to Dave's "the government view": Quote Ms Leadsom, who serves as a minister in the Department for Energy and Climate Change, said: "To my mind it is totally unacceptable that big businesses have, for more than a decade, been holding down the wages of UK workers by employing more and more EU migrant labour." She goes on to say pretty much what Nigel Farage was saying about unsustainable pressure on UK services over a year ago, and was extensively mocked over at the time. Courage isn't too much in evidence amongst our senior politicos. 2
Brian Cross Posted April 9, 2016 Report Posted April 9, 2016 In a true democracy the same amount of spent on leaflets for the stay in vote should be spent on the exit vote .........If was living in Britain i would vote to exit i don't like the way the E.U. is heading. 3
John Fox (foxy) Posted April 9, 2016 Report Posted April 9, 2016 Spot on Brian, what boils my pee is why does he think he knows better than me, why should he tell me which way to vote, and to round off a good week he's been proved a Liar and I haven't. 3
webtrekker Posted April 10, 2016 Report Posted April 10, 2016 That's right Brian: '... In a true democracy... ' Sadly, nothing remains of true democracy in most of the Western world. A good, fresh start for the UK would be to leave the EU and ditch the Royals.
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