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Hi K.L.,what year did Alf and Peggy Brown move into Hollymount Square? From My family moving there in 1948,the only Brown's i knew,didn't have Daughter's with those names.Now i started courting my Wife in 1962,when I was nearly 18 yrs old,and as our five year courtship progressed,I saw less and less of my neighbours. People moved out and new people moved in,but there was a Mrs Brown moved next door bar one,to My Mother,and I'm pretty sure that her name was Joyce. That would have been number 11. She was a real nice canny Woman. As kids,My Brother and Me used to lie in bed,[in the days when you were in bed at 7-0pm,not a minute later!],and we used to rhyme off every tenant's name of every house,starting with number 1. There are 66 houses in the square,many of them privately owned now,and the place,as I knew it,is barely recognisable. I remember the Chiver's family,they lived down near the cut which takes you to Haig/Beattie roads. When I was about Four,or Five years old,Jimmy,[i think that was his name],had hit me,and sent me home crying. My tyrant of a father sent me back around with orders to hit him back,cos if i didn't,he would "bray my bliddy arse..." Can you imagine the trauma I was in? I was a shy quiet kid,being forced by fear,to hit another kid to save my skin,with the idea of learning me to stand on my own two feet! Good old fashioned victorian values eh?!! The Chiver's didn't stay long at Hollymount.