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6 hours ago, mercuryg said:

I meant we're not actually out yet. So we have to wait a few years to see the results. I'm still loving the exchange rate, btw.

Curious that the Remainers predicted the economy would tank at even the hint of a OUT majority?  Cable predicted a stock market crash of -30% whereas it's now +30%.  So where do you want the place goal posts on this major economic setback?  You can have your pick, but "somewhere over there" isn't going to get written into the rules.

Someday sometime is also the problem with socialist politicos and their sunny uplands; they attempt to string generation after generation along whilst ensuring that everything is working well for their class IN THE NOW.  The USSR's apparatchiks ran out of excuses after 70 years, but in the Internet age the EUSSR simply hasn't got that long.  Anyway, I'm very curious to know exactly why you think the EU is an economically viable construct?

I'm delighted that the the exchange rate is working well for you. If you look at the history it came straight off a high and is now pretty much exactly where it was in 2009/10.  I know a few British ex-pats who are having to alter their lifestyles, and we are conscious that our own money goes nothing like as far, but there are several neat compensations.  What has reduced the general impact for Brits is that "weak hands" left during the last downer and the long-termers are preconditioned to wild exchange rate swings.  If you bought eurozone property in the early 2000's at going on for €1.60 : £1 - as most did here - your property is notionally worth far more in Sterling terms, and you can console yourself that you probably couldn't consider it now.  That's until you come to sell it and discover that there is mostly a huge difference between estate agent and real world prices, and that it's very much a buyer's market.

1 hour ago, mercuryg said:

"I'm now beginning to appreciate that you Remainers were right about several things Merk.  "

You need to give that a few years. we haven't gone yet.

 

I gave Wim Duisenberg (former Eurobank supremo) twenty years, and he still hasn't delivered on his "the UK economy will tank in months if it doesn't join my Euro" strictures.  Wasn't just him of course - the whole EUphile establishment were at it at the time.  You'd almost have thought they had a vested interest in talking our economy down, but "our European partners" would never ever do a thing like that!

I hope the EU-SSR has a few more years, but from where I sit it's looking increasingly unlikely.  If we can get past becoming a Caliphate (no bets on that one) the UK is now good for another 1000 years, and some of the best ones lie ahead of us.

Even more UK chickens hatching:

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The world’s biggest sovereign wealth fund has issued a resounding vote of confidence in the UK economy and the long-term prospects for the pound, raising its target for sterling bonds to 8pc of its global benchmark fund.

Norway’s $1 trillion oil fund has advised its government to concentrate core holdings of debt into dollars, euros, and sterling, dropping Japanese and emerging market bonds altogether.

“This is a very significant move. It is extraordinary that they have opted for the UK as world number three for investment ahead of China and Japan,” said Stephen Jen, a currency expert at EurizonSLJ Capital and an advisor to Asian sovereign wealth funds.

The shift in strategy came as the vast Norwegian fund – now known as the Government Pension Fund – said it is stepping up its expansion into London commercial property,..

5 hours ago, mercuryg said:

There's the old joke about the builder and his estimates, which are always much more attractive than the final cost. Might be wise not to count your chickens yet.

I'm now beginning to appreciate that you Remainers were right about several things Merk.  Take for instance those three million unemployed: we'll.. I've found them!  They're right here in Southern Europe, bravely propping up the value of the New Deutchmark.
And, Frau Merkel's desperate refugees are still coming in ever increasing numbers - the bitter civil war in Nigeria is particularly relevant at this moment.  We really must let a few million more in to help in the NHS - as per the free-movement directive from the fatherland!

Chickens?  As you've probably noticed, so many were hatching that I gave up counting them months ago!  Tip: try exporting British chickens to the EU, and discover just what this "single market" thing amounts to in reality.

More news we won't hear reported on the Brussels Broadcasting Corporation (or their chums at EU-funded propaganda machine C4):-

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Britain's poorest households will be the biggest beneficiaries of Britain's departure from the European Union, according to a report published by a prominent Labour group.

A paper co-authored by Labour Leave and a group of economists estimates that Brexit will bring a reduction in prices and immigration that will save the most deprived families £36 per week.

The group also warns that a "soft Brexit" would "leave us worse off and in danger of remaining in the EU in all but name."

John Mills, a prominent party donor who chairs Labour Leave, said the calculations in the report show that working class Labour voters "were right to back quitting the EU" because "they will see a boost to incomes that have been heavily depressed over the last decade".

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/03/poorest-will-gain-brexit-says-labour-report/

Meanwhile Blair - having failed at every other machiavellian ploy - is doing everything he can to ensure a "Soft Brexit" - a term created to pretend that democratic process is being followed whilst ensuring that nothing actually changes.  The French euro-elies got away with this by creating Merkron (no, not a typo!), and the French people have woken up the fact that they've been had in record time.

Yes, you guessed it!

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England's most obese region is the North East, which has an obesity rate of 27.1 per cent and a further 41.5 per cent of its people overweight.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health-fitness/0/englands-obesity-hotspots-does-area-compare/

None of your above candidates will be the next PM. Ukip voters have already decided this too. It will - of course - be the one who protests the most clearly and convincingly that (s)he holds no such ambition; has undying loyalty to the incumbent, and firmly believes they should continue forever.

So, you want a musical clue?  Well.. this could be just about anything, because the clue is actually the format.

P.S. It is of course (according to The Guardian) "the joke candidate" - though not the one the substitute-for-thought Leftie Labelers like to dub The Buffoon Candidate.

You have my David-Cameron-style cast-icon promise on that one Eggy!

But remember: you can't cherry pick icons*; you can't have your icon cake and eat it, and nothing is iconised until everything is iconised (apart from all the stuff Herr-commandant Barnyard demands is iconised first, of course).

*This does not preclude icons of cherries.

13 hours ago, Symptoms said:

Perhaps I'm just a pompous broadsheet faux intellectual kettled within a heaving PC crowd but, but, but ... am I the only one who is uncomfortable with 1970s humour appearing here?

Sym, if you feel like a PC rant go for it!   I won't be binning my selection of Carry On films any time soon though.

I briefly thought you were talking about CL's pantomime/music hall bit (more 1870 than 1970?), until clarity settled.
Only slightly deviating... It was a real scream listening to Question Time this week when the usual bunch of lefties that are held to be representative of (Highgate & Hampstead?) public opinion turned it into a competition as to who was most offended.  "I find you being offended by what I just said offends me and I have a right not to be offended..." - well they didn't precisely say that, but that was what the snowflakes were pushing at.  Laugh?  I almost fell over my floor mop!  Much of alleged offence and counter offense was during discussion of the Google story about the coder person being fired for telling the truth about gender differences - a comedy of PC circle squaring in itself.   In fact I find myself warming toward this Google ex-employee (oops - who's not non-British, gay or female, I hope!  )

Don't panic Mr Mainwaring!  No actual data has been lost.

Andy is off on a jaunt at the moment so we'll look at the problem after the weekend.  There's quite a lot of other work to be done to optimise things further as we are using a "straight out of the box" configuration at the moment.  Page load times will be further reduced after this work, and there's a major new feature lined up - but you all read the recent newsletter, so know that already.

On 08/08/2017 at 20:41, Eggy1948 said:

My view is if it works, leave it alone but if you must replace it then scrap the old but only after Foxy has taken a photo.

I don't think even Foxy has a lens that long.  It's likely in the skip at the back of the Internet Exchange by now, and will be recycled into baked bean cans by Christmas.  In fact sooner or later we are all has beans!  This is the price of progress.  

Bedlington has a brand new shiny set of (hamster?) wheels!   More accurately: precious milliseconds of our lives are now being saved by a new state-of-the-art server.  I'm not quite sure what is going to happen to the old machine now the plug has been pulled.  Maybe it should be retired to a computer museum alongside my Teletype 33 and paper tape reader?

Keep clicking on them, and we might be able to afford a new pot of paint soon!

Actually, Google isn't too bright, it keeps feeding me ads for English language courses all in foreign lingo!  Ciao!

A Remainer's lament:

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Richard Jones 28 Jun 2017 2:49AM

I voted Remain and I'd vote Leave now in a heartbeat if I could. I expected, as has always been the case in this country when a vote has taken place, that the result would be respected. I expected disappointment and headaches handling administration and needing solutions for EU citizens to stay and how we'd handle pensions for expats.

What I did not expect was the extraordinary lengths that have been gone to since to do everything possible to denigrate, insult, undermine, and subvert my fellow Britons who exercised their democratic right. From court cases to leaking details of our Prime Minister's meetings, the most offensive comments made about this country and its citizens by the likes of Guy Verhofstadt. Sneering EU nationals who, as it turns out, really do think and speak like colonists. The racist British. The backwards British. The British - they should roll over and be quiet and allow us to march all over not only their jobs, housing, and services but their democracy too.

I am appalled.

I voted Remain to my everlasting shame. I'm a life-long Liberal Democrat voter and for the first time ever gave my vote to the Conservatives. Perhaps that should indicate to anyone reading this and who thinks that the average, moderate British voter sitting by and watching all this is happy for the annihilation of our democracy, Parliament, and for the British people to be so insulted for what are nothing more than self-serving foreigners should think again.

I'll say it very plainly: this is not your country. If you don't like it, leave. You are not welcome here.

Give that person a medal!  Nuff said.

1 hour ago, Eggy1948 said:

How man parents will have seen that look on a child's face and worked out immediately that they were full of something, therefore  a PM candidate.

I was looking up the names of the Lavery parents in Ashington in order to answer your question; though, it sadly seems that those rumors were right after all: Ian didn't have a known father! 

1 hour ago, Eggy1948 said:

If he gets in will his nanny be his deputy?

You'll probably need to ask Macron to ask his teacher!

P.S. That baby looks like a future Prime Minister to me!

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Let your voice be heard today by signing the official petition to get Jacob Rees-Mogg to run for leader of the Conservative Party. The only person to lead the Conservative fightback!

Sign Your Support: Jacob Rees-Mogg For Leader And Prime Minister!

Yes, maybe I do - so long as I don't actually have to vote Conservative!   

...and actually far more difficult than the woman on the right!

DUP MPs threaten to walk away from deal to prop up Theresa May's minority Government on eve of Queen's Speech

..but she won't!  Probably!

4 hours ago, bluebarby said:

...You cant treat people the way those survivors have been treated with out some sort of backlash. ..

This has practically nothing to do with Grenfell Tower, and any excuse would have done.

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...The fact is we will have no truth or justice whilst Theresa May’s government with her cabinet of millionaires holds sway – they have got to go.Class war – no justice, no peace; bring down the government

Theresa May presides over a government, which uses racism and anti immigrant bigotry to hold on to power. For seven years we have lived through brutal austerity, cuts & anti-immigrant attacks leading to countless deaths. The Tories and their buddies in UKIP raced each other for who could be the most racist in the run up to Brexit; a vile referendum built on the back of scapegoating immigrants. May and her rich, corrupt friends in government sow division in the working class; demonizing Muslim communities and scapegoating immigrants to divert from its war crimes. Because this IS war, a class war, and right now,

https://www.facebook.com/events/1490621807662608/

They are trying to capitalist on the fact that May is unlikely to have the guts of a Margaret Thatcher.

This is all building into something very ugly, and way beyond Corbyn's ability to control, and there's the obvious fact that the people Corbyn has gathered around him don't want him to be able to control it.

Corbyn backers spread fake news about Grenfell Tower as Johnson blasts 'political games'

Seems you are right moe!

I've long suspected that Corbyn is simply being used by Marxists as a benevolent-looking front.  He has obvious appeal for hand-wringing liberals and the politically naive. Whatever.. he's clearly incapable of controlling the people behind him who want nothing less than to overturn our democracy.  The crazy thing is that virtually the entire PLP are going along with this charade.  They need to read a bit of history and discover what happened to the moderate people who thought they were taking a free ride on Stalinism and Nazism!

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Labour action plan:-

 

- Recruit lots of dumb celebrity stooges like Lily Allen to spout class hatred to the media.

- Entice the young with promises of free tuition fees and heaven on earth

- Brainwash young voters, those who see themselves as victims and play with the consciences of middle class virtue signallers, with tales of Tory wickedness so that the seeds of hatred and division are sown

- Mobilise marches in the streets which are bound to turn violent and then blame the police - and the Tories of course (remember the miners' strike?)

- Employ Momentum to encourage the politics of envy and hatred through social media

- Blame the Tories for every failure that the Labour party have been responsible for over the years when they were in Government.  Accept responsibility for nothing.

 

It is about time the majority of moderate people in this country, both right and left leaning, recognised the strategy that Corbyn's Labour party (the party of hate) is adopting, to see it for what it is and to fight it. 

The Tories need to get real and wake up to this threat to our country and our way of life.  The fight back needs to start now!

-- Andy Stevenson 16 Jun 2017 2:12PM

Doesn't seem too far away for the truth to me!

2 hours ago, Andy Millne said:

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