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Update: No one offering free shipping at the moment, and Play.com are now quite pricey for the items I looked at. Just shows that as a consumer you need to be on your toes. It's the people who aren't who are responsible for the manufacturer's and supplier's profits.

State of the election promises so far: NuLabour: Near universal 2 Mbit/s by 2012 ...and old grannies to be taxed on their fixed phone to pay for it. Tories: Near universal 100 Mbit/s by 2017 ...and keep the Digital TV levy for another licencing round to pay for the fill-in. Liberal Dems: Still waiting for an exciting new proposal. Maybe Vince to cable the country? What's the BNP policy Monsta?

And Venus is quite different too. The point is that we are BOTH comparing apples with oranges. "Junk Science"; you were meant to laugh. i.e. the tiny tiny levels of CO2 here on Earth have nothing to do with the totally different conditions on either Mars, Venus, or the BBCs jars. Neither planet has any man-made CO2 - what the hysteria is actually all about. CO2 probably is involved with the melting Mars ice caps too, but even BBC pop-science can work out that that has nothing to do with human factors. It's fluctuating solar radiation; the same Sun that shines on the Earth! CO2 in whatever levels nature sets for us is good - life depends on it. We should start looking at the real pollutants, and tell our idiot politicians that we are not quite as dumb as they take us for.

The Monsta Book of Junk Science Earth's atmosphere is 77% nitrogen and 21% oxygen. The average surface temperature is degrees 59 F Mars has an atmosphere of carbon dioxide, nitrogen, argon and a little bit of other gasses. The average surface temperature is -81 degrees F Conclusions: Carbon Dioxide is a cooling gas. Oxygen is a dangerous warming gas. The BBC Book of Junk Science If you get two jars and fill one with air and the other with 2630 times more CO2 than the terrifyingly high level in the atmosphere today. Then shine powerful lights on both, and don't provide any easy way for the energy to escape, the one with the air in will heat up faster (whoops, that shouldn't happen! Should it?) but keep on pumping energy in and the one with the CO2 will measure a bit warmer because the molecules in it are a lot heavier and so have more kinetic energy. Conclusions: The fact that the Earth's surface is 71% water, and if we put a bit of water in the jars a shook most of the CO2 would disappear doesn't matter at all - 'cos that would be beyond the comprehension of our dumb viewer panel, who's vote will validate our propaganda. And besides, it would give us a "wrong" result. We are all gonna die very soon unless we start trading bits of paper which give us the right to put CO2 in the air (and make Al Gore rich). Some Interesting Real Science (That the BBC won't be at all interested in) "CO2 concentrations worldwide average about 380 ppm. Compared to former geologic periods, concentrations of CO2 in our atmosphere are still very small and may not have a statistically measurable effect on global temperatures. For example, during the Ordovician Period 460 million years ago CO2 concentrations were 4400 ppm while temperatures then were about the same as they are today." http://www.geocraft....t_400k_yrs.html N.B. We are talking about total CO2 concentrations here, where the natural background is much greater than any man-made contribution. i.e. In the levels experienced on Earth total CO2 may not have any statistically measurable effect on global temperatures at all! Conclusion: This bunch of shysters are not only making alarmist predictions with no scientific basis, they're also pretending that they can measure the unmeasurable!

Now that's simply too obvious! And, though Monsta has picked up on Venus the global warmers/climate changers have a BIG problem in The Solar System. Because IF they presumed to mention Venus then others would point to Mars - and its melting ice caps! The obvious conclusion would be that the output of the Sun is fluctuating a bit, as it likely does quite regularly. No funding for Earth climatologists there then? No international conferences to regulate the Sun? Dammit - there's a really "Inconvenient Truth" Mr Gore!

Yes, I'd agree that 31,000 scientists can't be wrong! http://www.petitionproject.org/ The ones that don't profit from the con, and are disgusted this clique of fourty or so shysters are getting their research budgets and international jollies by pure fraud! And.. if you still don't believe it's a fraud then read their e-mails to each other! I already posted a link to them on another thread. Something definitely is happening - it's called weather. And we can hardly predict that more than five days ahead. To pretend that the same sort of simplistic computer models can look years, or decades ahead, is pure fiction. You can make these models output anything you want - and they do! Read their e-mails to see how they are manipulating the data, selecting from the data, and even making up data when they still can't get the answers they need. The scientific evidence says that there is no direct correlation between the level of CO2 in the atmosphere and mean temperature. The only evidence from ice cores that sheds light on this shows some sort of delayed effect running 200 to 1900 years behind the measured change. It's not understood how this happens, but it's very complex, relating to the enormous amounts of CO2 in the oceans and carbon locked in to limestone etc. But we do know that the vast majority of CO2 lose in the atmosphere is natural and not man made. Timescales running into hundreds and thousands of years aren't good enough to get the politicians to cough up the sums of money these shysters want, so they gloss over this "inconvenient truth". Our politicians go for all of this because they like to be seen to be "saving the world" - it's far easier to posture and "lead the world" than get to grips with the real problems - ones that they have no answers to. But, just as you saw at Copenhagen, other nations aren't falling for this junk science in the way our own media has. Like "the hole in the ozone layer" and loads of other hysteria you're not old enough to remember, it will all be quietly burried in a few years time. The politicians depend on the fact that Joe Public has a very short memory. And, there's always a new generation coming along that can be more readily taken in.

We are talking serious capital spending here; which isn't too easily confused with the logistics of a few boxes of hamburgers. Heretical though this may sound we don't need a Tesco or an Asda. We need specialist traders who re-spend money in the town, and don't put it in a security van straight out. If you or Monsta or anyone else believe that Tesco is going to "give" us anything you are deluded. These predatory operators will always take more than they give. They also destroy existing businesses, play off smaller suppliers against each other until doing business with them becomes barely economic. All this whilst putting up the illusion that they are providing a valuable public service. Sometimes it is necessary to sup with the devil, but in doing so we need an extension to the customary long spoon. Fortunately I think most of our representatives are a little more worldly-wise than the younger element in the town, who would be easy converts to a "cargo cult" religion.

My comments were limited to the government-boot-licking upper crust at the Beeb. The guardians of our morals, and our right to be presented with a balanced view of the world. Mere mortals have had their feet on the ground for a while - just as you say. Monsta: I'd expect we should say sorry for burning up all the fossil fuels and leaving them to face the chilly British winter with only a few - by then - creaky old windmills. Still they'll be able to have a good laugh at 20th century mass-hysteria and delusion. Like everyone going to get skin cancer because they thought they'd punched a hole in the Ozone Layer, and that this wasn't part of a natural cycle. Oh and the guy who kidded everyone we were about to enter a new ice-age in order to pad his research grants. And, what short memories we all had not to realise - when just a little later - the opposite case was being promoted, for exactly the same sordid reasons - by exactly the same guy!

It only worked because other forces came together to make sure it worked. Unfortunately the kids came away with a simplistic view, and now think that all that's needed is a bit of popular acclaim. Tesco is going to do what Tesco is going to do. All that matters is Tesco's bottom line, and local opinion has bu&*%r all to do with that!

Yes, they "the trailer" probably got the news from this strange website: http://www.bedlingto...peal-decisions/ ...where it was published nine days ago. Some people might say that that's a loaded question. i.e. they do care, are sad to see the school go, but realise that there is no alternative to having the site redeveloped as residential. And - as there are no viable alternatives proposed - it's better to have nineteen decent flats and carefully dictated landscaping, than an eyesore, public hazard, and somewhere where sooner or later some young kid will get badly hurt. Which "radio button" do they select to express that opinion?

What a dumb question! I'd have though this was perfectly obvious. You can pick up a copy at the Bedlington Public Baths at Humford (opening days only). Failing that at the Bedlington Shopping Mall (see 1960's Town Plan). Too far to walk then nip in to the Bedlington People's Theatre and Cinema(s) (Glebe Rd. / Palace Rd.), the Locke Hall, the Netherdale Venue, or indeed the Ticket Office at Bedlington Station. Then there's the Bedlington Fire Station, North Ridge; the Bedlington Ambulance Station, Millbank Tce. If you are very quick you might get a copy of our survey at the Bedlington Library, Glebe Road; the Bedlington Station Library; the Bedlington Community Center, Front Street West, and the Courts Building, off Market Place - any of these before the keys get lost! I'd also suggest the "Parish Hall" (Old Infant's School), but risky as you might get mown down by a bulldozer! If you're not feeling totally spoilt for choice by now then try any one of the closed Electrical Dealers, Department Stores, Social Clubs, General Dealers, Public Houses, Butchers Shops, Bakeries, Jewellers, Shoe Shops, Greengrocers, Clothes Shops, Delis, Hardware Stores, Paper & Paint, Gas/Electricity Board Showrooms, Furniture Shops ... ...

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/opinion/the-billion-dollar-hoax/story-e6frfhqf-1225823736564 Today Australia awakes. But what are the BBC Time-lords going to do when they finally have to admit they've been feeding the great British public a load of cods-wallop, and worse: censoring informed dissent? Which of the Beeb journos is going to stick his/her neck out, risk the job, and tell the unvarnished truth? Gentle climbdown seems the safest strategy. Retreat, slowly, in good order, and blame another commander for the debacle. "It was obvious to me/us all along."

We have a long historical understanding with the French. We call them frogs and buy their cars - and they call us ros-bifs and buy our... well, there must be something that they buy! The part you can't talk about is that we are contracted to rescue them whenever their teutonic friends overstay their welcome. In return they save us from our irrational fears: like not having bountiful ultra-clean nuclear energy and glow-in-the-dark sheep.

Did you notice the word "General" there Mons? This one is about who runs the Country. You know - that flag thingy you keep waving? With a bit of luck we might even get a Prime Minister that someone - even his own party - actually voted for. I think it's called democracy; but I could be wrong, as it's such a distant memory. One time we were told you needed "a mandate" to govern. In other words a party couldn't just stuff in any half-wit they felt like without having one of these General Election thangs sharpish like. But somehow, somewhere - like not invading other people's countries on private whim - that got forgotten about. In Bedlington we even had a cooncil with real money to spend. One which didn't have to go cap in hand to some political appointee for a favour, giving us some of our own money back. Have a look at the old photos; do you see BUDC on some of the vehicles? Yes, they were often Bloody Useless .... but they were OUR bloody useless. We could have leant, we would have learnt. But now we have woken up we've been shafted and can't do anything! First shafting was from Old Labour who played the class card to ensure we were left back in the 19th century; then from Britain's worst ever (until Gordon Brown) Prime Minister Ted Heath (Tory) who was behind the Wansbeck nonsense. He also managed to bring the entire country to a halt - but that's another story. But, grand champion by a mile, Gordon Brown has also managed to get us into the worst economic mess of all time. This one is a world beater - far worse on a per-head basis than the USA is in. We haven't felt the impact of it yet, but we are about to. So what are you going to do about it? March around with a few dozen dim neo-Nazi weirdos and be laughed at, or get out there and exercise your (rapidly disappearing) democratic right to get this moron out of power? It really doesn't matter who you vote for just as long as you don't waste your vote on extremist crap. Either of the other parties have semi-competent people who will at least make a start on getting us out of this mess.

Goodness, how did you get that graphic past the moderators! Think I'd better hit the complaint button. BTW when are they going to issue the patch for the patch?

Actually Brown has cost us even more than I thought. We have to pay this back, or our kids do! http://www.debtbombshell.com/ Anyone who isn't shaken rigid by this isn't living in the real world. It's not just another big number it's our declining standard of living for the next quarter of a century. Nor is it "a global problem" - it's OUR problem.

"Well, he would, wouldn't he?" He's boxed himself in anyway. All advice will be to hold off as long as possible for some signs of recovery he can point to. But as it's going to take a decade or more to sort out his £800,000,000,000 debt there's little chance of that. Won't stop all the kidology of course, and the Tories aren't going to tell the whole truth either, for fear of frightening the horses.

This disorganised shower can't even keep a confidence amongst themselves. It's already on the Bedlington Calendar.

If you go to memory specialist http://www.zoombits.co.uk/ you'll find that they are having a 10% off sale. All you do is enter promo code 10sale to take advantage of this. But DON'T BUY THIS as what's not obvious is that you can do better than 10%. Enter promo code newsale20 instead, and then you should get a 20% discount! Presumably this only works for a first purchase, but we will leave ways around this as an exercise for the reader.

Look he's got an AOL e-mail address so he must know what he's doing! And, when he quotes from good old socialist Norman Tebbit on his website he must be for the workers, so I'm going to vote for him! Unless... unless... by some fluke the Tories win the next election. Now if that were to happen they'd just ignore Bedlington like the Labour/NuLabour alliance always has - because we'd be beyond the pale, and there'd be no votes/new votes to be had here. So we'd end up shafted once again! Then - yes, then - a vote for war veteran Simon really would be a wasted vote - like he tells us one for the Tories would. So, how to use our heads and get this place out of its historic bind? Needs more thinking on... maybe I should ask Malcolm?

Would you like to tell us WHERE it's proposed it should be banned from? Then the poll might have some meaning. You're surely not advocating that in our free country (allegedly devoid of chanting mindless idiots) people should not be permitted to wear dress of their choice? Safety, decency, security and identity considerations aside, of course. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minaret -- notice anything else wrong? Anyway, good job MV isn't still in charge; else this one would be closed quicker than a council school with 5mm of snow!

dabs.com (on Hitachi) - ebuyer too, and perhaps others.

A one terabyte 3.5" Hard Drive just spotted on offer for below £60 (yes, even including that increased VAT). Two terabytes for around £116 - so even cheaper per Gigabyte. How long before we see the sub-£100 two terabyte drive? i.e. £50 a terabyte (or a fiver for 100GB). My first hard drive 10MB ( 0.01GB), and it cost an arm and a leg! There were 5MB ones available at the time. What's really galling about the storage revolution is that the things are now far faster, and many many times more reliable too. If only other things had seen this rate of improvement over thirty years!

In law it's treated as trading coupons. Really no different to issuing any form of promissory note - like a cheque for instance. It would be illegal to put Bank of Bedlington or some such on them as that would be misrepresentation - and would we really want to be associated with such rummy institutions anyway! But nothing wrong with calling them a Bedlington Pound. It should be illegal to do what our banks do: create money out of thin air! But the whole broken system relies on public ignorance. Any honest banker would tell you that if the real truth were universally known they (politicians and bankers) wouldn't get away with it. Of course paper currency is only a promissory note anyway. It all boils down to who people trust, and as far as I'm concerned that's not HM Govt.! Months now and they are still stalling in repaying my tax refund! No disagreement that it's due, it's just they haven't got the capacity to process it. Ha ha; wonder how far that excuse would get me if the boot was on the other foot! Meanwhile, I must pay interest on the money, and I can't recover the loss from big-spending Gordon!