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Woah - that isn't a Sun site! Read the small print at the bottom. Some kind of con I think. As always on the Internet - beware!!

What 3.0.1 isn't the new version? I'm still using 2.4 and its fine. Just tried to download the .deb of 3.0.1 from the last link I gave, and it comes in no hassle. I can live with them charging windoze users - IF that's what they are really doing. But I suspect that's a free download from that page too. Pity!

That wasn't me. But he's doing a grand job. "It was the right thing to do!"

Are you sure that's not a Star Office page? Here is the download page for OO (and it says it's still free though they do tout for donations) http://download.openoffice.org/ Whoops that was Linux specific! The general download page is here: http://download.openoffice.org/other.html#en-US

One thread got moved because it applied to Northumberland and not Bedlington. The link to it was left to avoid complaints. One click - big deal!

Of course it's free! Best thing since sliced bread and open source. If you feel a pressing need to pay for support ($35) there's Star Office, which is a supported version of the same basic code. OO comes bundled with Ubuntu so you don't even have to install it. http://www.sun.com/software/staroffice/ Several (otherwise deluded) Windoze users I know use OO instead of shelling out a small fortune for MSO. Nor is it a second best! Can't understand why people continue to pay good money for MSO (or put themselves on the wrong side of the law by pirating it).

It was his decision to make a dumb political gesture to holiday there. The police want their expenditure back so why should the taxpayer pay instead? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england...olk/7866646.stm Really illustrates the futility of all this political posturing (they're all at it!). Oh for an honest politician who tells it as it is whatever the consequences! Doubtless it will be brushed off as another "it was the right thing to do!" Spin-doctorese for I can't be arsed to explain; your tiny mind wouldn't understand anyway; I can't make a proper explanation into a useful sound-bite; and if I did you'd likely see right through the con!

This is what the government should be putting a few tens of millions into, and NOT pumping billions of our future earnings into feather-bedding the banks! http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7862827.stm It would save the country huge launch fees for civilian and military satellite launches, provide high tech British jobs, and encourage school leavers into science. Any one of those would justify the small government grant. Huge mistake to cancel Britain's small space program back in the 1970's because some dumb civil servant decided there was no commercial purpose in it. We'd already spent the money and so been paying for that mistake ever since! Here's a chance to correct that mistake at a time when we really need those jobs. Put VAT back up to 17.5% to fund it in the short term (though Gordon seems to be able to conjure astronomic sums out of nowhere when he thinks he needs it). In the long term this investment will pay for itself many times over. Does the government have that much common sense? Of course they don't; they'd rather splurge a couple of billion (probably ten times the amount of seed capital needed here) on trying to buy a few thousand dumb votes at a local election to prop up their evaporating power base!

Not a daft question if you aren't familiar with the Internet to start with! Somebody PM'd me (a good first-stab in itself!) to ask. Here's what I replied: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi ??????! Very very simple. Click on the Introduce Yourself forum. Click on the New Topic button up top left on the list of threads. Put a topic title in the Title box and type your message in the big text box. Then scroll down a way and hit the Post New Topic button right at the bottom. Ignore everything else it's just eye candy! Your new thread will appear at the top of the treads list for that particular forum. The main thing is to experiment. Don't worry about messing up, the moderators will take care of any clean-up for you. Also you can edit your own posts at any time simply by clicking on the Edit Post button underneath it, making your corrections in the message box, and then clicking on the finish edit button to upload the change. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Would that do it for you, or have I not made it clear enough somewhere?

If you knew as much about computers as you know about drinking holes you'd know just how close Mac OS X is to Linux, and how many ideas they stole! So much so that if the boot had been on the other foot the writs would be flying. At least when Microsoft sell their old wine in new bottles they try to maintain some backwards compatibility and don't regularly leave their punters high and dry with the major hardware & software changes necessary to correct *their* repeated mistakes. I suspect you've never actual tried a modern Linux distribution. Easy-to-use has a huge price tag, and appeals mainly to the easy-to-part-from-their-money.

Ubuntu is just a spruced-up Debian. Uses .deb install files in the main. Can you imagine the M$ reaction to someone taking their OS, bending it to their own preferences, and then giving it away. That's the power of open source, the GNU General Public License, and copyleft!

That was my first intro to W-I-M Linux too. But the Ubuntu CD is live too. What's more you can install it properly from the live CD without even rebooting. I have a couple of USB sticks I use to install it on other machines for people - faster than using a CD. The best way to try it out though is Wubi. This creates a virtual file system under Windows, and gives you a dual boot machine. The Linux drive is just a big NTFS file in a directory off the Windows root, and it can be un-installed from the Windows uninstaller. Wubi is on the Ubuntu CD, but if you download it then it will go on the net and download the Ubuntu image itself and install that. Obviously Wubi is a Windows program.

The problem is it's a global setting and we have a couple of open forums that don't need registration. Making this one open was pre-planned - honest it was!

Would that be the four hour faff I had re-installing a damaged copy of XP on a machine that had to be returned because of a WiFi module fault. (From the in-the-box discs and hours worth of "hotfixes", bundled applications & driver updates.) Or the twelve minute faff I had installing a bang up-to-date and fully functional copy of Ubuntu on the replacement hardware (including re-partitioning the hard drive)?

There's a far simpler reason too. That's that most Linux users are far more computer and security aware and simply don't do things that will compromise their system. You can get just about everything in source code. So it's all open to peer review - some purists still insist on compiling everything themselves. I'd also guess that may virus writers are Linux users themselves and don't have any incentive to c**p in their own back yard. Nor is there an "evil empire" attached to Linux that you'd be motivated to mount a "guerilla attack" on. And, you know that if you did, you would be much more readily traced and identified. I've been impressed recently as to just how portable binaries now are between various Linux distributions. If there is a portability issue you can be pretty confident that someone somewhere has already fixed it. I'd urge everyone to give say Ubuntu a fair try. You will probably be very pleasantly surprised at how easy it is to install and how useful the bundled software selection is. At worst you will come away with a free glimpse of what's on the other side of the fence, and at best you'll never spend another penny on legitimate software (and the constant buying of the same old rope over and over again).

The odds were very much stacked against her, but she has to be greatly admired for trying. If the clock were put back I'd guess the owners, knowing what they now do, would have given her a better hand. The town would be a much richer place with a few dozen like her. So, to rubbish her efforts is a tad disingenuous. We're all influenced by public opinion and other people's experiences, whether we admit it or not. People aren't stupid and note who reaches out to them and values their custom, and who takes their business for granted.

We've flung this forum open to guest postings for an experimental period. The reason for this is that it has many casual visitors interested in computing who may not want to become a full town website member simply to post a casual observation, but who may still have something valuable to add. The downside is that the posts now have to be pre-moderated so may take a little while to appear. We will review this in a few weeks in the light of how much value is being added against how much worthless spam has to be trashed. UPDATE (The score so far - Mr D please feel free to update my tally else it's a bit pointless) Got my first one today Guest Spam: 5 Intelligent Guest Posts: 0

Well they would say that wouldn't they. The lack of brain cells is more likely in people who don't recognise the power of the Internet to make or destroy businesses'. This is treating their own customers with contempt. If so I doubt that this business has a future, at least in current hands. Their competitors will - particularly when times get tougher. And tougher they will get! We're here to help local enterprises, but some may be beyond that. Or... they are frightened of engaging with their own potential or existing customers. A 20th century business in a 21st century world - not may brain cells in that!

It's subject to VAT, so £345,000 at the present rate or £352,500 when it goes back up again. By contrast the asking price of The Terrier is £500,000 plus VAT, but they will consider all offers. I'd say The Lion is generally a much better and more valuable location, but don't know how the sites compare from an actual pub income point of view.

So say the agents: Red Lion, Front Street West, Bedlington, NE22 5TZ Price/Rent: Offers over £300,000 Status: Available For Sale Freehold (De-Licensed) Substantial detached property close to town centre Potential for a variety of uses (subject to planning) Large open plan bar, first floor 4 bedroom owners accommodation Large car park to the rear

I'd considered 30 seconds very reasonable. How long does it take for you to think about/type a post for goodness sake! OK we'll go with the majority.

Presumably because you haven't got a 64bit CPU! Or have a mixed up windows+utilities installation. You really don't need all this software bloat, there's enough of that from M$ already. Though C Cleaner is a must-have if you want to run your copy of windows for more than a year or so. BTW Linux users never have to defragment, and rarely need to reboot either!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/7859422.stm

The problem is the Enterprise Centre. All efforts to find some in the town have so far failed!

Unlikely with a troll sitting on the thread! Look up "rumour" THEN look up "speculation". When you say you don't know for sure it's the lattter not the former. And, for another correspondent: all rumours aren't necessarily malicious rumours, especially when they so obviously aren't!