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Separate albums sounds good too - a bit like you do with the various schools.
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Headstones sounds good to me. Maybe we could have subdivisions starting with: Headstones, St Cuthbert's Churchyard. There are maybe other churchyards in the shire which could have their own subdivision?
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Eggy, can we have a gallery album for these photos and any others from the churchyard that may be posted? They are a very valuable source of information, well worth preserving in photo form as the real thing is now disappearing fast. If you could work your magic with naming the files so they would be easily accessible to the researcher, it would be wonderful. BTW, I think John Hedley may be my relative. Huge thanks for posting these, Maggie, and can I urge other photo enthusiasts to leg it down to the churchyard and capture more memorials, pleaeaeaeaease!
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Given the role of the Valkyrie, I hope she only played it at funerals! I believe that Vic's organist was one of - possibly both of - John Robert Smail's daughters.
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Amendment to the above: I asked a former colleague to look at mt text analysis and I just received his reply. He agrees with my analysis and conclusion. However, he points out that there is an omission in my argumentation that is important to its understanding. Paragraph 7 "Of course, the two elements of name and epithet do not always occur in that order. It is equally common with the epithet preceding the name: Dr Fred Bloggs/NUFC footballer, Jackie Milburn/beloved aunt, Mary Smith, organist of Bedlington Parish Church is also a possibility - hence the ambiguity. " should read: Of course, the two elements of name and epithet do not always occur in that order. It is equally common with the epithet preceding the name: Dr Fred Bloggs/NUFC footballer, Jackie Milburn/beloved aunt, Mary Smith, so organist of Bedlington Parish Church, Jane Isabella Smail is also a possibility - hence the ambiguity. Sorry about that. I'll try to do better!
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Answers to last week's quiz: 1. W 2. Congratulations 3. A mollusc 4. The Anglo-Zulu War, 1879 5. A wild ass 6. Metre (A metre is but 3 foot three, It’s longer than a yard you see). 7. Nurse 8. Spiders 9. E 10. Troy 11. Dogger 12. Cornwall Halloween Special tomorrow! PS. Just noticed that I didn't post a 'bet you didn't kmow' lastweek! Here it is: I'll bet you didn't know George VI, Mozart and Casanova were all Freemasons
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Make a cup of tea! This may be long: I´ve had a look at this memorial stone now and from a linguistic point of view, based on the engraver’s use of the punctuation marks and conjunctions, I believe that the organist in question was John Robert Smail, son of Isabella and Edwin. Memorial stones of this type have inscriptions added at various times as family members die. This one is erected in 1888, in first place to the memory of Isabella Smail whose husband is already dead. It may well have been erected by her children, the above mentioned John Robert and his sister, Dorothy Ann. The inscription for Isabella Smail ends with her age and is concluded quite correctly,with a full-stop. In 1929 the stone is again engraved following the death of Dorothy Ann. This engraving, however, is commenced with a conjunction – ”also”. The conjunction in inital position indicates that this inscription has been added later than 1888, otherwise it would not be preceded by a full-stop. Dorothy Ann’s inscription, like her mother’s, ends with her age and is followed by a full-stop to mark the conclusion. The engraver has said all he/the family wishes to say. One year later in 1930, the remaining child John Robert Smail, son of Isabella, also dies and he is added to the stone. Again the engraver, probably the same one, starts his inscription with a conjunction ”and”, again, and for the same reason, indicating that it has been added after the 1929 inscription. Then follows a phrase which is not part of a sentence but does follow a full-stop: ”ORGANIST OF BEDLINGTON PARISH CHURCH FOR 55 YEARS.” At first glance the phrase may seem ambiguous and the question has arisen as to whom it refers: John Robert Smail or his wife, Jane Isabella Smail, the subject of the next following engraving. Note that he phrase, even though it is not a complete sentence, is concluded with a full-stop indicating that all has been said that should be said. However, the phrase does not commence with a conjunction, indicating that it has been added at the time of John Robert’s inscription and I suggest it is an epithet to John Robert Smail. An epithet describes an attribute which can be described as characteristic of a person – in this case, a person well known as organist of the parish church. It can also be described as being a repetition of the previously mentioned ie Fred Bloggs, vicar of this parish/ Jackie Milburn, NUFC footballer/Mary Smith, beloved aunt or, as I suggest, John Robert Smail, organist of Bedlington Parish Church for 55 years. Of course, the two elements of name and epithet do not always occur in that order. It is equally common with the epithet preceding the name: Dr Fred Bloggs/NUFC footballer, Jackie Milburn/beloved aunt, Mary Smith, organist of Bedlington Parish Church is also a possibility - hence the ambiguity. However, it is possible to disambugate it. I suggest that the next inscription is added in 1968 upon the death of John Robert’s wife, Jane Isabella. I suggest this because, again, the name of the deceased is preceded by a conjunction and follows a full-stop, indicating for the same reason as above, a new addition to the stone. After 1930. Historical linguistics isn’t the asiest of subjects but I hope this can bring some clarity to your question, Maggie. Myself, I’m 99,9% certain that it’s John Robert. The remaining 0.1% of uncertainty is the full-stop ’before’ the epithet – possibly a stonemason’s error or an incompletely engraved comma or maybe an epithet which came as an afterthought to the relatives of John Robert. There are other indicators that it is John Robert who is the organist, apart from the inscriptions, but they are found in the family history. I’ll tell you a bit of it in the next post.
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I agree! A nice project for any of our photo-enthusiasts. It would make a great gallery album.
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I agree with @Bedlingtonian on the above. I can't say if they are common or not in Blighty. I've previously come across one in Cowpen. However, they are quite common in Spain, not only on gravestones but also within churches on stone- and wood carvings. There are some other interesting symbols on William Colvil's memorial stone: Arrows (there’s one piercing the waves on the left) are a general symbol for death and nothing to do with the cause of death or being struck by Cupid’s arrows as you'd be forgiven for thinking. Bones, in this case just a femur (piercing the waves on the right) but more often a skull and cross bones, are a symbol to remind the us of what will become of us too. Bones as symbols belong to a class of symbols known as memento mori - a posh way of saying ’this is a reminder of what will happen to you’. Look out for them. They come in many shapes and forms. I think that might be a coffin in the top right corner.
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Hi Maggie, I'm a bit confused as to who Miss Smail was. According to isabella's gravestone, it was her son - Robert - who died in 1930 who was church organist for 55 years. Did his wife - Jane Isabella take over the job and if so why is she referred to as MISS Smail. Her age and d.o.d. would fit in with Vic's wedding in 1962. The couple don't appearto have had any daughters only a son. I'll check the census register to see if their are any. PS All photos are very much welcome!
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Haven't heard of her, Maggie. Why was her taste in music original?
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We would be very happy to welcome you on board, Maggie! Of course, it's the taking part that's important (as Mr Hemming was so keen on reminding us!)so if you don't want to post your answers it's OK. Challenge the OH over a glass of wine or get the neighbours in for a bit of a natter. There is more than one way to skin this particular cat. The main thing is to get the grey cells out for an airing once a week. Enjoy it!
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This week's quiz: What is the chemical symbol for Tungsten? What was the title of Cliff Richard’s 1968 Eurovision song? The shipworm is not a worm. What is it? During which war was the battle of Rourke’s/Rorke’s Drift? What sort of creature is a klang? Which is longer, a metre or a yard? On TV, what was the shared profession of Martin Platt, Charlie Fairhead and Gladys Emmanuel? Arachnophobia is the fear of what? In Morse Code which letter is represented by a single dot? Willie Carson won his first Derby on which horse? Which sea area is surrounded by Tyne, Forties, German Bight and Humber? In which English county is the market town of St Austell? Answers on Thursday next week, followed by a Hakkoween special on Friday.
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Eggy, can you ever forgive me! I'm five days late for your birthday! I had planned to post when I posted the answers to last wek's quiz and I've just found the post-it note that should have reminded me. I can only blame old-age, cable-laying duties, lack of organisation in the office and possibly too much whisky. I can only wish you a very, very belated but very, very happy - - birthday and hope it was a good one.
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Brrrrrrr Not att all envious! Haven't taken the shovel out of storage yet!
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It's something peopledon't do often enough - cleaning feeders. Birds and squirrels alike need a clean feeding place and a clean feeder. Clean both at least once a fortnight and keep the animals healthy. It's the least we can do in return for the pleasure they give us.
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Time to give the old bumps of knowledge an airing: Which disease does the BCG vaccine protect us from? Which Greek island was the home to the Minoan civilisation? What does a pluviometer measure? Who replaced Phil Collins as lead singer of Genesis? Which football team won the English 1997-98 Premier league and F.A. Cup double? Where would you find breast buffers and bottom buffers at work? (keep it clean!) What is a female trout called? Who in Great Britain can never legally be a minor? Who was the eldest of the Bronte sisters? Which Royal house ruled in England from 1461 to 1485? On which day in April 1998 was the peace agreement signed in Northern Ireland? What do Americans call reindeer? I’ll bet you didn’t know …. Clark Gable is listed on his birth certificate as a girl. Answers on Thursday as usual.