Alan Edgar (Eggy1948)

Ccleaner: The Real Review Started by Mr Darn, Mar 10 2009 05:59 PMSymptoms - read the previous topic on CCleaner by Mr Darn. Downloaded the free software and from the Options given when the package is loaded I would assume there have been quite a few changes in the operating of this package since Mr Darn, and many disgruntled users lost there Documents. Leaving the default settings unchanged I initiated the 'Analyze' run and found the list of files reported that would be deleted if the 'Run Cleaner' was initiated, with the default settings, would be acceptable to me. Details of files to be deleted (Note: No files have been deleted yet) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Internet Explorer - Temporary Internet Files 117,559 KB 381 files Internet Explorer - History 2,162 KB 23 files Internet Explorer - Cookies 3 KB 11 files Internet Explorer - Index.dat files 1,072 KB 5 files Windows Explorer - Recent Documents 4 KB 6 files Windows Explorer - Thumbnail Cache 4,112 KB 6 files System - Empty Recycle Bin 28,520 KB 20 files System - Temporary Files 302,027 KB 325 files System - Memory Dumps 26,303 KB 12 files System - Windows Log Files 128,572 KB 51 files Google Chrome - Internet Cache 417,032 KB 2,696 files Google Chrome - Internet History 1,447 KB 12 files Google Chrome - Cookies 198 KB 469 files Google Chrome - Session 32 KB 3 files Applications - Adobe Acrobat 10.0 453 KB 1 files Applications - Adobe Acrobat 9.0 222 KB 4 files Applications - Adobe Acrobat XI 229 KB 3 files Applications - Adobe Reader 11.0 221 KB 2 files Applications - McAfee AntiVirus 15,842 KB 252 files Applications - MS Office Picture Manager 4 KB 2 files Applications - Office 2007 65 KB 17 files Applications - Office 2010 65 KB 17 files Internet - Google Toolbar IE 14 KB 7 files Internet - Skype 169 KB 61 files Multimedia - Adobe Flash Player 1 KB 34 files Multimedia - Macromedia Shockwave 11 19 KB 1 files Multimedia - Microsoft Silverlight 1 KB 12 files Multimedia - Windows Media Center 28 KB 22 files Multimedia - Windows Media Player 1 KB 1 files Utilities - Adobe Air 7 KB 1 files Utilities - Windows Defender 2,436 KB 1 files Windows - MS Search 8,448 KB 66 files Windows - Remote Desktop 20,467 KB 1 files . Initiated the 'Run Cleaner' and 5,419 files deleted = 1,052 MB removed So my system was not that bad, but the tidy still worthwhile.

I have now ran the Free download scans from Malwarebytes – Avast & Kaspersky and compared them against my current McAfee version. Each product was left with their default settings. My McAfee is set to search for 'Unnecessary system files' of the type :- Temporary Files, Recycle Bin, Registry, Shortcuts, Windows History, Lost File Fragments, Active X Controls, Flash and Searchlight cookies, Memory Image files, Problem report files & Thumbnail cache. The default at download was not changed for the three downloaded products. No. of Files Scanned Quick San - Full Scan – Time Taken – Virus found – Adware/Spyware found McAfee 4,706 not given None None 254,005 not given None None Malwarebytes 267,727 11 mins None 5 (5 files) 486,451 1hr 58mins None 6 (5 files + 1 'exe' in ProgramFiles) Avast not given 38mins None None not given 1hr 22mins None None Kaspersky not initiated 478,874 1hr 10mins None None Naturally this small test with only my own spec, and limited knowledge, was very basic. So please no "you should have done…………………….. etc. etc.†It's just me playing (filling in my retirement spare time) and you can ignore or read into it whatever you want. The one 'exe' file that was found = OptimizerPro and was only detected in the Full scan so I assume 'Program Files' is not scanned on the quick scan. The full filename was C:\Program Files\Optimizer Pro\OptProsmartSmartScan.exe The other 5 files were under my user in Documents\OptimizerPro. I Googled 'OptimizerPro' and from the entries returned this is a known piece of Adware/Spyware and earliest report of I saw from Google was 6th December 2011. As this Spy ware has been known about for at least a couple of years I would have expected all the major products to be aware of this and have it in their relevant database. Reran Malwarebytes Full scan and at the end took the option to remove the detected files.

Threegee - when there are a lot of entries to go through I often use the 'search' facility on the topic. In this case I searched for the word 'bet' and nothing found. Tried it again today and the word 'bet' still not found. Tried longer words and they were all found. Tried 'bet' again and still not found. Tried numerous 3 letter words - 'and' - 'the' - 'bus' - 'car' etc. and nothing returned. This system does not like searching for 3 letter words. Tried a two letter word and the system informs you that words below 3 characters, and certain other words, are not allowed. 'bet' must not be allowed. Bet I still get it wrong in the future.

Searched for 'bet' and it wasn't me. AV Summary:- Malwarebytes detected more that Norton, AVG or McAfee Adam says Kaspersky is best (or is that just Internet Security?) threegee says Avast is best Now my system has been scanned and cleared by Malwarebyte I will, when I have 4 hours spare, do another full scan with Malwarebytes (before by two week free trial runs out) and follow that immediately by downloading and running Avast free AV. At the end of me running and attempting to compare products I will make a decision on what I will use. But now I would bet that everyone will still have their own preference. For & Against is easy, just ask my wife!

Adam, thanks for the info – did some testing with Malwarebytes. Will try Kaspersky PURE 3.0 when I can find their free trial download. Not going to give them £49.99 up front without a trial! With my current system – Norton Security came with it as part of the package. Switched to AVG when Norton wanted more money. AVG introductory offer was £10 and that lasted for 2 years. Switched from AVG to McAfee in November 2012 – just because of price – AVG price quadrupled and McAfee introductory offer, for what appeared to be the same security options. None of the security products I have used – Norton, AVG & McAfee have ever detected any possible malicious items on my PC. Downloaded the trial version of Malwarebytes and did comparison runs against McAfee:- Quick Scan – Items Scanned – Items Detected - McAfee 4,706 0 Malwarebytes 267,727 5 Skipped the request to remove the detected items and did:- Full Scan (C & D) McAfee 254,005 0 Malwarebytes 486,451 6 All items detected by Malwarebytes were labelled as 'PUP.Optional's - Potentially Unwanted Program. One exe file that was detected in the FULL scan was C:\Program Files\Optimizer Pro\OptProSmartScan.exe Ran the Malwarebytes Quick Scan & Full Scan again and this time requesting the detected files to be removed on the completion of each scan. So this time the Full scan only detected the 1 item = the exe file. Files Detected: 1 C:\Program Files\Optimizer Pro\OptProSmartScan.exe (PUP.Optional.OptimizerPro) -> Quarantined and deleted successfully. Restarted my system after the deletions. The folder C:\Program Files\Optimizer Pro was still present, but empty. Deleted the folder. Reran the FULL scan on C: & D: Scan type: Full scan (C:\|D:\|) Scan options enabled: Memory | Startup | Registry | File System | Heuristics/Extra | Heuristics/Shuriken | PUP | PUM Scan options disabled: P2P Objects scanned: 487482 Time elapsed: 2 hour(s), 7 minute(s), 20 second(s) Memory Processes Detected: 0Adam – did some testing with Malwarebytes. Will try Kaspersky PURE 3.0 when I can find their free trial download. Not going to give them £49.99 up front without a trial! With my current system – Norton Security came with it as part of the package. Switched to AVG when Norton wanted more money. AVG introductory offer was £10 and that lasted for 2 years. Switched from AVG to McAfee in November 2012 – just because of price – AVG price quadrupled and McAfee introductory offer, for what appeared to be the same security options. None of the security products I have used – Norton, AVG & McAfee have ever detected any possible malicious items on my PC. Time elapsed: 2 hour(s), 7 minute(s), 20 second(s) Memory Processes Detected: 0 (No malicious items detected) Memory Modules Detected: 0 (No malicious items detected) Registry Keys Detected: 0 (No malicious items detected) Registry Values Detected: 0 (No malicious items detected) Registry Data Items Detected: 0 (No malicious items detected) Folders Detected: 0 (No malicious items detected) (end) (No malicious items detected) Memory Modules Detected: 0 (No malicious items detected) Registry Keys Detected: 0 (No malicious items detected) Registry Values Detected: 0 (No malicious items detected) Registry Data Items Detected: 0 (No malicious items detected) Folders Detected: 0 (No malicious items detected) (end)

You have me hooked on a feeling that one is pulling our plonker - Ouga Ouga Ouga Chaka. When the red lights, on the outside of each chimney, used to go out me dad was called out to go and fix them (probably just replace the bulb, but he made it sound important).

Well spotted sir. Yes, missed out the right click on the Task Bar. Must stop these grandkids interrupting me. My knowledge of Ctrl + Alt + Del has been expanded. Remember, vaguely, back in 1987-8 when we first found out you could restart ICL DRS configurations via that method and have always thought it only applied to DOS based systems - never used anything else. Never thought when I retired that years later I would have to dig out my old note book and update it! Free version of Malewarebytes from http://www.malwarebytes.org downloaded. Thank you.

Whilst checking out why one of my applications would fail 'application already running' when attempting to restart it within a session I noticed, within Task Manager, a process I could not remember seeing before. It was - Premieropinion. I Googled 'premieropinion' and the results told me that I had a piece of 'Adware/Spyware' and this Adware has been around for a few years, difficult to get rid off in Mac systems but easy with Windows Vista etc. So this code had been sitting on my machine for approximately two months. I could blame grandchildren but from what I have read it could have been initiated as a download buy anyone accidentally clicking on any area of a 'pop-up'. Probably my fault for suspending my McAfee real-time scanning for a few weeks whilst I was checking out performance issues. You can easily check to see if the Adware is on your system via the Task Manager. For those who have never checked their Task Manager before:- Two methods to start your Task Manager, and display the processes that are running on your system are:- Simultaneously press the Ctrl-Alt & Delete keys and you will be given a menu of items you can select.. One will be 'StartTask Manager', select that one and a The Windows Task Manager will start and you will have a list of TABS you can select - Applications/Processes/Services/Performance etc. Select Processes tab and a list of names, in alphabetical order, of executable jobs (with 'exe' file extension) will be displayed. Scroll down and if you find one for 'premierop.......' then select it and then select the 'End Process' button at the bottom right of the display. That stops the process running in your current session. If not fully deleted the process will restart when you load your system. To 1) read about and 2) prevent the Adware been reloaded the following is the info from Google search:- 1) http://www.theguardian.com/technology/askjack/2010/jun/02/how-to-remove-opinionspy PremierOpinion (or Premier Opinion) is adware which gets into computers by piggybacking corrupt screensavers downloaded onto a computer system. Premier Opinion is one of the first badware programs that affects both Macs and PCs. The removal of PremierOpinion has proven to be rather difficult but experts say using a reliable antispyware program should do the trick. Remove PremierOpinion immediately before it wreaks havoc on your system. 2) http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101008083340AAkEuER PremierOpinion is an Adware application for Window's. Adware isn't harmful at all (unless it freezes your system that is) as it gets rid of things like cookies and, to keep it simple, a whole load of other unnecessary rubbish that'll do nothing but gradually slow your computer to "watchingpaintdry" mode. If you're having problems with this app. and would like to remove it, click "Start Menu" and open up your "Control Panel". Inside you'll find either "add/remove programs", or "Programs and Features" , depending on the operating system you use. Simply open and you'll be shown a list of all the programs installed on your PC, all you need do is search for and delete the application in question. If you use Vista like myself, it'll be named "PremierOpinion" and have an unknown publisher. Rick click and you will be given the option to UNINSTALL - select that and the offending application will be removed.

How did Joseph and Mary know that Jesus was 6 pound 7 ounces when he was born? They had a weigh in a manger.

Final Chapter = Exodus Mary bent down to pick up the coins. Oh dear, said Wilf. It wasn't an immaculate conception, just Trapped wind. We three kings of orient are, blown away, along with star. Broon and Amber, Founders too Following yonder star. O Star of wonder, star of night Shepherds, sheep and menu bright. Eastward leading, still proceeding Propelled by Mary, into the Light. New Years resolution = No more. I have used this to practice photo manipulation with transparencies. I hope I have not offended anyone. yours sincerely Wilf

Mary, said Wilf. The stargazers have noticed your predicament and made you a crib and come out to see you. And look, somebody has dropped some gold! Pick them up Mary.

Flanagan and Allen - Underneath The Arches featuring Oi!

Foxy - Googled 'Mayor of Doncaster' as I enjoy reading about those that deviate from the political norm. Those that say a lot but mean nowt. Looks like Mr Davies tried to too hard to make his point. He resigned from the English Democrat party, going Independent, forcing an election but lost under his new party. Labour's Ros Jones has won the race to become Doncaster's elected mayor. Ms Jones secured 25,364 votes to see off the challenge of current mayor Peter Davies, standing as an independent, in a tight contest. The result was decided on a count of second preferences after just 590 votes separated them on first preferences. Ms Jones, who has been the councillor for Askern Spa ward for the past seven years, will become the town's first female and second Labour mayor. Incumbent mayor Mr Davies came second after receiving 24,725 votes. He stood as an independent candidate after quitting the English Democrat party in February over claims of an influx of new members joining from the British National Party. Meetings 'horrendous' He added: "I will not miss the council meetings, which are horrendous in the extreme more often than not." The turnout for the vote was 28%, with 62,132 voting out of an electorate of 223,608. In 2009 the turnout was 39%.

Hello Mary, you lost? Hello Wilf. No not lost just can't find anywhere to stay. Need to find some where as quick as I can. Any room in The Terrier? Just too late Mary. There are a lot of star gazers just turned up and God says someone called Wrath is visiting. Let us na if you get any more Symptoms.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwcEUR3XIAM

Reedy I think that one should be 'Before Then & Now'. Can't see anyone turning up an earlier one than that. Best one I've seen. Was Bedlington Station known and Sleekburn all know as Sleekburn? Do you know what date it's from?

Adrian, Andy & Troy and their groopies flocked in on Monday to hear the woopeees. So when Holly flicked that enormous switch t'was time to cheer, not to bitch. Now they had seen the shining light where to stay for the rest of the night. So Wilf invited the three bad shepherds, and their groopies, to The Bedlington Terrier.

Adam - If only I could. My legs wont let me get up into the box. Any volunteers?

Rafie whilst searching for 'Taylor' this old topic of yours was in the list. One of the pictures I found by the Barrington painter James Mackenzie is labelled "Breaking in the Riding Cob, Barrington Stables". There is no date to say when it was painted but this should prove that there were stables there, but nothing to say if they were associated with Barrington Colliery. Never having worked in the industry I have no idea what breed of pony was employed in the mines. A quick Google on horses-cob gives the average height as 15 hands and Wikipedia = "The hand is a non-SI unit of measurement of length equal to 101.6 millimetres (4 in). It is now normally used only for the measurement of the height of horses". So I don't know if the Cob was too big to be down the mines - 15hands = 5ft.

Yep, your right with the arm. She must have velcro stitched on her lug.

Pity there is no interactive Google aerial street view then you cold post a picture of the Bower Grange effort and compete against the other estates.If the old pit heap was still there!

Keith - happy Birthday. Most 1980's camcorders rested on the shoulder and had a hand grip to support - see those in the picture, but can't find one to match the one you spotted.

Cympil/BartonRafie/EdAdey/and anyone that's interested That painting of Barrington School posted by Cympil 13 February 2010 has had me thinking, and occasionally checking, since I joined this site this year. Yesterday I got an email of a mate, brother of John Lowe an ex Barrington lad born in the 1930s, and they had seen the painting on a BBC site. Turns out on the site - http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/yourpaintings/paintings has 25 paintings of James Mackenzie and from the titles of the paintings he lived in Alexander Road and from the number of paintings of the Bedlington 'A' pit that's where he worked. The info on the BBC site is:- James Mackenzie 1927 – 2013 and states that his works are either displayed at Beamish Open Air Museam or Woodhorn Museum & Northumberland Archives. The titles of the paintings are:- Barrington Colliery Back to Stables, Bedlington 'A' Pit Barrington Colliery School Bedlington 'A' Pit, Plessey Seam Filler, Bedlington 'A' Pit, Harvey Seam Putters Riding Ponies, Bedlington 'A' Pit, Northumberland 'Bill's Been Hurt', 19 Alexandra Row, Barrington Colliery, Northumberland, 1933 Bill's Been Hurt (2 paintings on the same subject) (The artist said about this piece: "My father [being] brought home after been under a fall at Bedlington 'A' Pit. Head injuries, two finger ends off and back fractured. Still dirty and delivered in the colliery coal cart. He was a hewer piece worker. [i am] the small boy on the left with the iron gourd. Old Mrs Cook hurrying down to help, she assisted everyone.") Down the Barrington Burn Breaking in the Riding Cob, Barrington Stables Howicking Preparing Leeks on Show Day, Alexandra Road, Barrington Jack Arkle at the Pigeons, Alexandra Road, Barrington Choppington Flower Show, £50 Professional Handicap Race Back Canch Man, Bedlington 'A' Pit Calling the Weigh End of Shift, Bathing at 19 Alexandra Road Loading ponies into a cage at horse hole at Bedlington 'A' Pit, Miner's Still Life Paddy Gets a Rabbit Quiet, While the Bread Rises Rabbit Coursing, Bell's Field, 1934 (The artist said about this piece: "Held on Saturday afternoons with whippet dogs and live rabbits. My brother Foster and self collected the live rabbits in a pigeon basket early on Saturday mornings at Choppington Station (Northumberland) and carried them to the field.) Shaft Inspectors - Inspecting the shaft at Bedlington 'A' Pit, Northumberland. The Busty Kip Collecting Jockies and Pushing around to the Shaft Washing Day 'You Haven't Lost Your Touch Bill' The site also allows you to print of the pictures. But does state:- Printing Print the painting page (low resolution) with painting information If you click on these links you'll get to print the page on your own printer. Other uses If you want to license images or use them for any other purpose, you will need to contact the gallery or collection directly.