Malcolm Robinson Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Last chance to stand everyone.............http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/police/police-crime-commissioners/candidates/standing-for-election/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threegee Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 About fifty years overdue! I never understood why the public tolerated such an archaic system. We need more democratisation, and - particularly in Bedlington's case - a lot more common sense in voting for our own interests! That means not being dupes for long outdated class-driven politics, and exacting a high price from BOTH main parties for our votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Hogg Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Last chance to stand everyone.............http://www.homeoffic...g-for-election/Are you standing Malcolm? If not foxy should . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Robinson Posted October 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Adam,I think the people standing for this are "hand picked" for the job. Kinda makes GGG's comment redundant! Soon see, the names of the candidates will soon be published but I will bet the front runners are ex politicos........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Hogg Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Yes GGG's comment is wrong to say the least. All police commissioners are a political tool to try and win votes, they are in my opinion a waste of tax payers money. Also do police commissioners not go against GGG's support for privatisation as they are/will be political party members/civil servants (a band of Government)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Symptoms Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 I had a look at that link and was surprised at those who are unable to stand: "A person may not stand as a PCC if:they have been convicted of an imprisonable offencethey are a serving; civil servant, judge, police officer, member of the regular armed forces, employee of a council within the force area, employee of a police related agency, employee of another government agency, politically restricted post-holder, member of police staff (including PCSOs) or member of a police authorityMEPs, MSPs, AMs and MPs will be able to stand as PCCs, but will need to stand down from their existing post before being able to accept the post of PCC"Bullet point 2 rules out just about anybody working in the public sector ... hardly widening the democratic franchise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Robinson Posted October 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 The Right Honourable Lord Prescott is standing I believe........... Lord Blair, no not that BLiar, has a different view.............http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2221149/Chris-Grayling-condemns-silly-Sir-Ian-Blair-telling-voters-boycott-police-chief-elections.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threegee Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Yes GGG's comment is wrong to say the least. All police commissioners are a political tool to try and win votes, they are in my opinion a waste of tax payers money. Also do police commissioners not go against GGG's support for privatisation as they are/will be political party members/civil servants (a band of Government)?So how do you feel about the present Police Authorities? Are they a glowing, and cost-efficient, example of democracy in action? Who appoints them, and how much do they cost? You don't know? Maybe you were never meant to know! I fail to see what this has to do with privatisation/nationalisation of industry, please explain? Sometimes, you know (actually, quite often!) politicians do the right thing for quite the wrong reasons.I had a look at that link and was surprised at those who are unable to stand: "A person may not stand as a PCC if:they have been convicted of an imprisonable offencethey are a serving; civil servant, judge, police officer, member of the regular armed forces, employee of a council within the force area, employee of a police related agency, employee of another government agency, politically restricted post-holder, member of police staff (including PCSOs) or member of a police authorityMEPs, MSPs, AMs and MPs will be able to stand as PCCs, but will need to stand down from their existing post before being able to accept the post of PCC"Bullet point 2 rules out just about anybody working in the public sector ... hardly widening the democratic franchise!Think it's meant to mitigate against it being a place to retire failed and non-performing "public servants" to. Wouldn't do to give the House of Lords any actual competition in that regard. Not so much widening it as deepening it. The present system couldn't be any more undemocratic!The Right Honourable Lord Prescott is standing I believe...........Lord Blair, no not that BLiar, has a different view.............http://www.dailymail...-elections.htmlI think it's a close run thing between Blair 1 and Blair 2 in the credibility stakes. Have to agree with Grayling on this one. If MPs have to stand down first then why don't peers? This could be positively beneficial for the public purse if people like Slugger Prescott fancy their chances! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Hogg Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 I fail to see what this has to do with privatisation - please explain? Sometimes, you know (actually, quite often!) politicians do the right thing for quite the wrong reasons.Well Police Commissioners are/will be from Political parties and not independent so they will be a branch of Government, thus they are state owned/operated, thus they go against privatisation, which you support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threegee Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 ...are/will be from Political parties...Really! Where does it say that?!I - in common with the Russians and Chinese Communists these days (and, of course, the UK Labour Party) - think that industry should be controlled by the best most competent people who get there by their own abilities, and not by political appointees. But that has nothing to do with how government is run.Your thus doesn't follow on from your thus, and that doesn't flow from your so... - even if your "are/will be" was right, which it likely isn't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Symptoms Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 Adam, Malcolm & Symptoms in discussion with GGG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith lockey Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Democracy – "….the bludgeoning of the people by the people for the people.†~ Oscar Wilde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Robinson Posted October 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2012 We urgently need a re run of the nominations.................... http://www.choosemypcc.org.uk/candidates/area/northumbria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threegee Posted October 27, 2012 Report Share Posted October 27, 2012 This is true - snow choice!Need some crusading independents, else simply more jobs for the boys! Time to change the SSID on your WiFi to alert the neighbours to the stitch-up. http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/passive-aggressive-wi-fi/?utm_source=nrel1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Fox (foxy) Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 (edited) We urgently need a re run of the nominations.................... http://www.choosemyp...rea/northumbriaI wonder if there's any chance we could get Commissioner Gordon out of retirement. He took his lot from Gotham City in the late sixties and to date has still not been accused of Pension and Expenses scams, Nepotism, tearing up Speeding Tickets or Driving under the influence.They don't seem to make them like that nowadays. Edited October 28, 2012 by foxy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith lockey Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Sorry Foxy, the smart money is on this bloke getting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Hogg Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Sorry Foxy, the smart money is on this bloke getting it.or this one Keith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith lockey Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Or this one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Symptoms Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 I reckon the black furry GGG should've stood: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith lockey Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 MAY I PRESENT THE NEW POLICE COMMISSIONER... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Robinson Posted October 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 Gets my vote Keef2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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