Rumpy Pumpy Is Sounding Desperate Today

[threegee]

First we have Barroso lecturing Cameron, now Van Rompuy is at it:

LONDON (Reuters) - Britain would damage its standing in the world and miss out on lucrative trade deals if it turns its back on the European Union and votes to leave the 28-nation bloc, one of Europe's most senior figures said on Wednesday.

Surely he must be thinking about all the lucrative trade deals that we miss out on worldwide because of all the strings that Brussels attaches to everything we do?

Actually, he can see what's coming at the Euro elections: Cameron's double-dealing on the EU is going to be shown up for the sham it is, and after the 2014 European elections the UK is going to be represented in Europe by a party that truly reflects public opinion. They don't like democracy, full stop; nasty thing which can derail gravy trains, and carefully hatched conspiracies in smoke-filled rooms.

http://blogs.telegra...sident-barroso/

And.. where the UK goes others will surely follow, tottering the whole shaky edifice.

So... expect the whole raft of tired old ideas to be floated out again in defence of "the European ideal". When they get to the one about guaranteeing peace in Europe we'll know they've reached the bottom of the barrel.

[Alan Edgar (Eggy1948)]

First we have Barroso lecturing Cameron, now Van Rompuy is at it:

Surely he must be thinking about all the lucrative trade deals that we miss out on worldwide because of all the strings that Brussels attaches to everything we do?

Actually, he can see what's coming at the Euro elections: Cameron's double-dealing on the EU is going to be shown up for the sham it is, and after the 2014 European elections the UK is going to be represented in Europe by a party that truly reflects public opinion. They don't like democracy, full stop; nasty thing which can derail gravy trains, and carefully hatched conspiracies in smoke-filled rooms.

http://blogs.telegra...sident-barroso/

And.. where the UK goes others will surely follow, tottering the whole shaky edifice.

So... expect the whole raft of tired old ideas to be floated out again in defence of "the European ideal". When they get to the one about guaranteeing peace in Europe we'll know they've reached the bottom of the barrel.

Move to a free Scotland where the 'Salmon' will continue to leap freely and their new ideas will be for them selves with no UK or Europe following or tottering.

[Malcolm Robinson]

Just for GGG,

http://newsthump.com/2013/09/21/sluts-furious-at-ukip-member-comparison/

[Malcolm Robinson]

Another Euroland Directive...........

We are just about to be banned from ridiculing our political elite and any other mendacious group such as our Banking friends by a new European Law. Titled, "A EUROPEAN FRAMEWORK NATIONAL STATUTE FOR THE PROMOTION OF TOLERANCE” it purports the following:

Section 1. Definitions

For the purposes of this Statute:

(a) "Group" means: a number of people joined by racial or cultural roots, ethnic origin or descent, religious affiliation or linguistic links, gender identity or sexual orientation, or any other characteristics of a similar nature.

( "Group libel" means: defamatory comments made in public and aimed against a group as defined in paragraph (a) – or members thereof – with a view to inciting to violence, slandering the group, holding it to ridicule or subjecting it to false charges.

Is this the end to political satire?

[Malcolm Robinson]

Why can't I get the b in brackets? GGGG

[threegee]

Veee a'v vays of making you theenk little Englander!

Don't you just like the "any other characteristics of a similar nature", and "subjecting it to false charges." Who will be the judge of this? Oh yes, the people in power with a need to retain that power. Is this preparation for the shortly-to-be-swelled UKIP contingent in the EU parliament? We can't have Rumpy being asked awkward, ridiculing, questions - like who actually elected him!

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Q: Why can't I get the b in brackets?

A: A b followed immediately by a ) translates into a smiley.

Work-arounds: use a different sort of bracket > } ] OR a different serialisation set A B C; x y z.; 1 2 3 OR - and probably easier - simply add spaces ( a ) ( b )... ; underscores (_a_) (_b_)... ; dot(s) (a.) (b.)... etc.

[willy j.]

Let's hope the people of this country wake up in time to vote for a party that will get us out of this EU mess we're in. Then we can trade freely with the rest of the world, especially those countries who were loyal to us and we let them down badly by joining. IE: New Zealand, Australia, Canada etc. I'm sure the German people are just waiting to see whether we do it, because I know there is a strong feeling there that their money is being wasted too. 53 million pounds per day back in our coffers will do us nicely, and not having to put up with Barroso and Van Rumpuy telling us what we can and can't do. It would be great to be a truly independent nation again.

[Malcolm Robinson]

Let's hope the people of this country wake up in time to vote for a party that will get us out of this EU mess we're in. Then we can trade freely with the rest of the world, especially those countries who were loyal to us and we let them down badly by joining. IE: New Zealand, Australia, Canada etc.

We can still trade with the EU, nothing will change really as far as commercial tie ins go its the dammed political stuff we need out of!

They are trying to force a political union on the back of a financial one, its doesn't work that way! They might as well stand on the Albert-l-Promenade and tell the tide not to come in!

[threegee]

nothing will change really as far as commercial tie ins go

The fact that we consistently buy more from them than they buy from us more or less guarantees this. All the politico's scare stories of jobs depending on EU membership are red-herrings. The only job losses will be in the political classes!

Was there any noticeable increase in employment when we signed up? You'd be forgiven for believing the reverse, and that it helped fuel inflation. When we unwind the euro-legislation we will be free to produce what world markets want, and not what Brussels says we must offer them. We'll be free to conclude trade agreements on terms which suit us. If EU countries continue to demand this or that made to Euro regulation 3649/B2 then we can still oblige them, but they'll need to continue to pay for this privilege, and we will be free to supply other countries who don't want to pay for Brussels red tape. Unlike little Norway they won't be able to bully us into paying huge fees simply to be able to trade with them. If they do try this on they will loose, because they need us more than we need them!

The sad fact though is that Cameron is entirely the wrong person to do our negotiating. They know he's a closet europhile and that he's simply going through the motions - he'll try to pass off a political bodge as a triumph. It's only if we field a negotiating team that has no idealogical hang-ups, and that is quite prepared to walk away, that we'll get a trading deal with the EU that is worth having.

[willy j.]

Well said both Malcolm & Threegee, comments are spot on, agree with every one of them. UKIP is watching you and looking for recruits.