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are we missing the basic point of the criminality displayed at the borders and channel ports? immigration has a process and the vast majority of applicants who can prove they meet they criteria are accepted and integrated with no issues. i know someone very well who sits on immigration and asylum tribunals and the vast majority of cases heard have no worth, but its very difficult to deport anyone once they are in. I have no issues with genuine migrants who abide by due legal process but I do have huge concerns about those allegedly refugees who appear to be able to stop at nothing to gain access to the uk - one must ask - why the UK?

My family and me were migrants to this country when we arrived here we worked hard for a living we did not expect govt handouts my father worked in the coal mines of the south coast and my Mam worked night shift in the local hospital for21 yrs we assimilated into the Australian culture quickly. yes Tony i am a migrant and proudly British,i was not having a pop at anyone just asking a question.

"If this really was a religion like other religions all these calls to violence would be excised, but they are not, and that simple fact is telling!" What? Seriously, you're clearly an intelligent person, but you're happy to tar them all with the same brush? Are you saying that ALL muslims are acting violently and killing people, etc? Are you blind to the fact that most, in fact, go about their lives without troubling anyone, just as do the Hindu's, Sikhs, and others who live among our society? Are all Chinese Triads who cut peoples hands off etc? You're getting your radicals mixed up with the ordinary people who follow Islam. Furthermore, Christians have a history of bloody, needless violence throughout the ages; what about them?

I didn't see Brian 'having a pop' at anyone; he simpl;y positied a point that many would have made. It's a valid one. Maggie, I saw that news item too, about the Muslim girl on the train. I would have responded the same way as the other passengers, and am thankful that they had the guts to do it. Nobody deserves to be abused in such a fashion for their beliefs, colour, creed or whatever. The story says that hate crimes against muslims have risen something like 250% since the Paris attacks; that's hardly surprising given the utter ignorance of many people. How can we expect them to stand up and protest against ISIS when they are fearful of those in their own community?

It's not about some individuals doing/saying the right thing, or indeed "simple arithmetic", it's about a religion that is full of hate, advocates violence, and is absolutely intolerant of ALL other religions. This is a core issue, and why the religious leaders themselves don't speak out. http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm If this really was a religion like other religions all these calls to violence would be excised, but they are not, and that simple fact is telling! That we even tolerate a parallel legal system to our own country is crazy. We send the barbarians all the wrong messages then wonder why they treat western civilisation with contempt. Put simply: You can't fight extreme intolerance with tolerance, at some point you have to stand up to it and say enough! Just about all senior politicians have now admitted that multiculturalism doesn't work - yes, even Mrs Merkel. But, they are singularly clueless about how to reverse the folly. Mrs Merkel's answer to just about every problem on the planet is that everyone must behave like a good German - somehow I don't think that Islam sees things her way!

Tony the raft we arrived on was the "Cheshire" and we migrated here legally