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Our brilliant buddies the Dutch have forced a referendum on the EU's ambitions in Ukraine - it's today! They know that Germany's ambitions in the East are a threat to peace, and that Russia won't be compromised any further by German expansionism. Putin is being constantly painted as an aggressor by the EU controlled media, and the clear understandings at the end of WW2 are being stretched to breaking point. So, it's pretty certain that our Dutch friends are going to give a massive thumbs-down to German ambitions. Theoretically the Dutch have right of veto; but hey, this is the post-democratic EU where we little people don't count. So, what do you think is going to happen? Yes, the overwhelming will of the Dutch nation will simply be ignored, and any attempt to canvas public opinion over a wider franchise will be vigorously suppressed by our EU overlords. Our own government will claim that we've had our say on this in our own referendum, blithely ignoring the fact that the issue was never actually raised by our own elites. If we are dumb enough to fall for Quisling Cameron's lies, and do vote "Remain", then it's the start of our own armed forces (and our nuclear capability) being sucked into Juncker's EU army. Once this process is set in motion all the "peace in our time" rhetoric about the EU will be exposed for the deception it has always been. There has been peace in Europe since WW2 because our forbears had the good sense to remove all serious armaments from German control, but not until after they too made the fatal mistake of allowing an always expansionist Germany to surreptitiously rearm in the 1930's. Think of Vote Leave as a vote to keep our nuclear weapons out of the hands of people who have much form on failing to respect other's rights. The Russian people are not our enemy, but it will be very difficult for any of us to argue this when we are absorbed into a super-state which is dead-set on trespassing on the Russian sphere of influence! It's desperately important for mature people to get this message over to younger people who've been blinded by spin, bogus economic arguments, and touchy-feely "let's all hold hands and make the world a better place" fools. We've been there ourselves (me in foolishly believing Edward Heath in 1975), and are duty bound to make the effort to explain the difference between fantasy and hard reality to the current generation.

Well, we now know the result of Dave's thinking time alone in Lanzarote - his conclusion as to why he's losing all the arguments is that he's not applied enough spin. His solution: to spend another £9.5 million of desperately needed taxpayers money on a leaflet to all households. This is, of course, exactly the same tactic used by Harold Wilson in 1975. If you re-examine that leaflet all the lies and half truths are now very transparent, and we now know that the promoters knew that it was a deception - they've since admitted it was! His justification for this leaflet is that there's a huge demand from the public to know the facts as they are confused. Well Dave, if you genuinely believe this then subject your EU propaganda sheet to a panel of independent economists, constitutional experts, and business people for scrutiny, once it has been signed off by your spin HQ. Let them determine what is fact and what if pure elitist propaganda, and then edit it appropriately. If you are not prepared to do this then there's a very good home for the leaflet we are being forced to pay for - straight in the waste bin! Dave's other tactic is an appeal to younger people - "after all it is their future". Too true, as, like the older generation, they will be stripped of all democratic right to say this isn't working and we've been lied to for virtually the rest of their lives: It's there in black and white: "There will be no second referendum". That last statement is another half-truth of course; following a Leave vote there will be as many referenda as it takes to try to get them to say yes; that's until we get a government of the people this nation can once again trust. Though, once Pied-Piper Cameron leads them through the trapdoor into that mountain called EU Superstate it will be tragic end-of-story.

In a true democracy the same amount of spent on leaflets for the stay in vote should be spent on the exit vote .........If was living in Britain i would vote to exit i don't like the way the E.U. is heading.

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