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somehow the latter comments put me in mind of a cartoon of Sylvester with some yellow feathers in his gob saying -- 'weren't me !! honest' (however the really satisfied look on Sylvester's face betrayed the truth (Merchant of Venice) it will out like feathers in ones throat). perhaps we should rewrite the 'spam' sketch and song - substituting 'squab' no offence intended Vic - was referring to the speckled Jim - where allegedly a certain officer brought down a pigeon and was sustained by same. interestingly it was a serious offence to kill pigeons during WW1 in the trenches. I have a friend who lives on the Blackadder- yes its a real place/river and is a colonel but is seconded to royal duties so will ask if he can take this to the highest authority (Madge) for an opinion