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According to the most recent poll 25% of the public disagree with that, and are figuring on actually doing something about it. Old Labour supporters can sit on their backsides and reminisce, or actively do something. My take on this is that we are at one of those major inflection points in history. I believe that both Labour and the Tories have outrun their usefulness to society. They have both morphed into top-down marketing organisations bent on their own advancement. Principles and ideology went out of the window long ago - the whole process is now pure self-serving pretence. They even buy into their own mutual propaganda (about the EU being essential to us, etc.), and are both largely staffed with people with no real world experience. Their job is - and always will be - selling their right to that job. Yes, I know, apart from the inflection point thing there's little there that no one hadn't already worked out for themselves. So... it's time for everyone with a grain of sense to stop moaning and do something. That something is to temporarily bury all differences of opinion and unite to force change. I'd vote for The Arthur Scargill Party if he promised his Stalinist agenda was a thing of the past; promised to preserve democracy; and he had a credible chance of forcing his way into the Westminster hen house. There is now only one way to that change. The LD's shot themselves in the foot, and, as a top-down organisation (utterly wedded to the biggest top-down organisation of them all) was never going to force change anyway. But, many people thought it was worth a try. The present coalition government was just a portent. Have another look at that UKIP link and see if there isn't anything you couldn't temporarily swallow in order to permanently get us out of this straitjacket. Now, you are going to say, yes, I can live with that; yes, I actually support that; that's wrong, but maybe it will change when they see the error of their ways. But but but... the real killer is that you are going to convince yourself that they don't really mean it, are duplicitous, and won't carry out their policies anyway. Well, it simply doesn't matter if they will or wont, because in a few more years the system will have had that long overdue shock, and democracy will be working again! The Oxford PPE courses will be rewritten to de-emphasise focus-group led government, and warn of the "dangers" to the system of communications no longer being the hands of the ruling elites, etc etc. Tory and Labour may not (and probably won't) disappear, because there may be mileage in the brand names (especially if you stick New in front of them - oh, no, that's been done! ) but they will be radically different, and really listen. My answer to your duplicitous point would be that we have a bottom-up organisation that won't tolerate that - something we haven't had for a very long time. And, if that happens, UKIP will factionalise and split - such is real democracy. The message for the average disinterested-in-politics voter is: You now have a once-(well maybe twice, but we can't yet be sure)-in-a-lifetime chance to shock the system into major change - don't waste it! And, even more importantly, don't oppose the change everyone needs by mindless tribal voting for parties that have come to the end of their natural lives. The new world may be uncertain and quite messy, but it will be truly democratic, and, a lot more open and honest.