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  1. Does that not almost make you as bad as them Sym? Making assumptions that they are all the same?
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  2. If you didn't catch it this particular one is probably worth the 59 minutes and 34 seconds of your life. You've probably worked out already that the QT audience isn't at all representative of the general population. That's because a fair proportion is "invited" by the liberal leftie elitists at the Beeb, and doesn't go through the normal ticketing process. This "invited" section - all in the interests of political balance and making the program more interesting - is seated separately from the plebs in order to distribute them around the hall. The master plan then involves producers carefully noting where these interesting people are and cluing-up Dimbelby before the start of the recording. He's thus able to pick contributors with "random" opinions quite "randomly". Normally this device produces the approximately desired result for the opinion formers at the Beeb. On the Brand program last night this broke down badly. Brand's hand-picked supporters went way over the top, and the good people of Kent didn't just sit there and take it. One extra-vocal Brandite (who coincidentally was seen spouting right next to Brand in Downing Street on a C4 report last week) was dressed-down by a truly random member of the audience, and in no uncertain terms. Brand himself became uncharacteristically quiet after being faced with the logical consequences of what he was saying, and being offered the possibility by Farage of putting his views up to public scrutiny at an election. By contrast Farage didn't indulge in personal attacks and restricted his remarks to both the logical absurdity of Brand's statements, and those of the regular party hacks. Apart from that the only person to shed any light on any of the questions was Camilla Cavendish of the Sunday Times - she was certainly worth her fee. Another own goal for the superficial Brand, and a few thousand more recruits to "the people's army" seems to be the general impression.
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  3. Actually, at core I don't think Tony has views that vastly differ from me. He believes in solidarity, and well.. class war, for want of a better term. I'm simply appealing to him to broaden his solidarity a little, and to see the class war in the modern context, and not the context of fifty or one hundred years ago. Tribal support of the present-day Labour Party is entirely illogical for trade union members. The Labour Party we all knew was dead set against the EEC. In their book the "Common Market" was a device of the bosses to force wages down. Now that these traditional Labour beliefs have some meat on the bone we see a modern Labour party standing on its head, and being more Tory than the Tories could ever have imagined. Miliband & Co go out of their way to avoid discussing the matter. They draw on a stock of carefully rehearsed tactics to avoid EU related questions. I really want to hear how Tony and other trades unionists think about this. You mean you aren't convinced that Ukip is the way to a solution to "something is very wrong in the UK political balance of power at the moment"? Well spotted - Ukip does represent the majority view of its members (many of whom also contribute to the popular press). Pretty revolutionary having a party where the grass roots members discuss and decide on policy, and hand it off to their representatives to put before the electorate. Let's call this entirely new process representative democracy. Joking aside I'd love to hear from you why these populist policies "cannot actually" be provided? The EU is a huge hidden drag on the possible. If you proceed from the hide-bound position of the establishment parties that's surely true - even debate about the possibilities is rapidly shut down. Sure, there will be mistakes and even mass delusion at times, but those mistakes will (once again) be owned by the voters. They won't be the mistakes of a manipulative elite who's sole intent is staying in power, and padding out their pensions with euro non-jobs. The blame game won't be eliminated, but it will become a lot more acceptable to a re-empowered electorate. Farage is keen on saying that there are two types of politicians: ones who take up politics to be something, and those (rarer ones) who become politicians to do something. The ones I see in Ukip at the moment are (almost) exclusively the rarer kind. At this stage of desperation and dis-empowerment that alone is worth a vote!
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  4. I thought Farage held his own. he didn't lower himself to the barrage he encountered he kept on with his opinion which I agreed with. Which is called having your own opinion which in this country is becoming not allowed.
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  5. Tony, what made Dad's Army so endearing is that - however feeble their efforts - they really BELIEVED in their country, and in its civilised values and general compassion. They didn't need a state apparatchik to tell them about caring for their fellow citizens. You also knew that if things came to the crunch, however feeble and comedic their individual efforts, as a combined force they'd be formidable opposition for any dictator. They wouldn't cave in like our continental cousins did. How do you square your belief that "he would defiantly destroy the health service" with the reality of Ukip policy? You clearly weren't listening to QT or you'd know that Ukip is the least interventionist of the parties in letting the doctors get on with running the service without the political baggage. Miliband has told supporters that he wants to "weaponise the health service", by which he means he wants to use it for his narrow self-serving political purposes. The party that has it withering under £300BN+ of Private Finance Initiative debt, for Gordon's short-term political gain, wants us to believe that we should fear a tiny percentage of the service continuing to be being farmed out to whoever can provide the best service for the available cash. That £300BN PFI produced only around £50BN of new hospital building! The £250BN difference is what Labour mismanagement robbed the NHS of! Put that into the context of the £2BN that Labour proposes to steal from many asset rich but cash poor old people - those who happen to be living in the wrong place - in order to inject much needed cash into the NHS. Yes, the so-called "Mansion Tax" is a joke at the expense of the vulnerable; the stolen cash will disappear into the black hole that is ongoing mismanagement of a vital national resource! Labour's "Privatise the Health Service" is just another of those sound-bite labels that has absolutely no meaning, but is intended to frighten vulnerable people into voting for a manipulative liberal elite who believe they have a divine right to rule! Labour used private companies extensively to plug Health Service deficiencies when it was in power, and will continue to do the same if re-elected. Other parties will do just the same (when faced with reality in those many areas where the NHS simply can't cope). All the rest is just political BS of the worst kind; the kind intended to frighten vulnerable people into voting against their own best interests! In my book a party that blatantly lies and manipulates in order to gain power, and whose management record of our country is utterly appalling (every one of Labour's administrations ends in economic disaster - ultimately wished on the most vulnerable) is worse than one which unpretentiously advocates trickle-down economics through the class system. However, a plague on all their houses; we need fundamental change in this country, and just at this moment only Ukip can deliver that! If you are not an "I'm all right Jack, pull the ladder up, socialist" you should be supporting the millions of decent people who now see that we need to reject the whole of the LibLabCon alliance, and restore some true democracy to our country. Stopping here, before I get back to Dad's Army!
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  6. And... today's effort by the establishment media to make Ukip look loony is the headline "Farage blames M4 traffic delays on immigration". Some establishment papers have even extended this further to claim he blames being late on immigrants. All of which he didn't say! He simply echoed the thoughts of the present immigration minister James Brokenshire that mass immigration is putting pressure on Britain's road system, and added that those who say all the sums "proving" that immigration is positive for the economy don't factor in the pressure on a host of public services and the general infrastructure. (It's also a short-term calculation because it totally ignores the demographic). So, it's OK for an establishment figure to point out the bloomin' obvious, but when when Ukip do so, try to extend what is actually being said to make it look irrational. Unite LibLabCon brothers to protect our divine right to rule from those ignorant plebs, else tomorrow we might have to face the tragedy of finding real work - for the first time in our lives!
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  7. 'Eees not a banker, 'eees just a very naughty metals trader! And... don't believe the LibLabCon propaganda machine Tony; they are masters of distortion!
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