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As an experiment there's a now a new Forum called Chat Central (working title). It's the only place where off-topic remarks and incessant banter will be permitted. That leaves his Forum for serious discussion on the Town, and other serious issues of the day.

Threads started off here in a light vein will be rapidly moved to the new Forum.

Off-topic posts added to serious threads in this Forum will be deleted - don't complain! Though the moderator(s) may, at their sole discretion, and without having to explain why to anyone, split a thread and move the off-topic tail to the new forum (even change the title) - BUT DON'T COUNT ON IT!

In future threads in this Forum that seem to have reached some sort of conclusion will be closed. If you want one reopened to add something then contact the moderator(s). This is because some of the threads have grown to ridiculous lengths making them of little future use to anyone.

The experiment continues!

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..ummm.. and of course people starting off apparently serious threads about local topics in the Chat forum may well find them moved here. Or was that a test of the new system?

I`ll take that as a "no" then

Absolutely not!

It's basically a good idea, but I was rather hoping someone would turn their brain on and fill in a few of the details.

OK let's get this straight:

You want a forum for chat about the Town and a separate forum for General stuff?

So what happens if someone starts a thread off about something of interest re. the Town then someone posts something off-topic. Does the tread then get moved, or does the off-topic stuff get deleted - to cries of censorship? Either way the moderator can't win!

Should either or both of the forums be public? IMHO we don't want the chatter one public as it could detract from the Town to visitors, and we don't want the serious one public as local posters won't bother to join and make a commitment.

Private forums don't attract anything like as much spam, because the main reason for spamming boards is not to get the spam read, but to place links to hijack our considerable search engine traffic. The aim is to get crap sites a search engine ranking, and search engines can't spider the private forums.

I reckon that mpdownload is another dodgy member... unless they're a Darkbase DJ? Could be just as bad mind...

We've made the captchas (numbers you need to type in to register) a lot more difficult to OCR (read by a computer program). So far no bots managed to register overnight. Generally two or three manage to find the numbers after lots of tries.

It's a shame when you have to make it more difficult for disabled people just to stop morons!

Were they full of vile invective? Words like 'mott' and stuff like that?

Wouldn't know, never give the stuff the time of day. If other people took the same view it would all die out. Never been able to understand the mentality of people who will buy anything at all from spammers. It just takes that one in a million idiot to keep the whole sordid mess going.

I reckon that mpdownload is another dodgy member... unless they're a Darkbase DJ? Could be just as bad mind...

Reet the forst teem bonny lass!

Dozens of links posted, but they never saw the the backlight of anyone's LCD.

are you not ganna introduce yourselves

Google on Alexdunkant and you will find that its a mindless bot written by mindless people!

No place for those here, but they would be a lot easier to detect if genuine members filled in a few fields in their profiles. We may have to make some of these "required fields" at some point.

DNA - yes

Cards - may be... So, DNA, yes as the records may be protected by physical security. ID cards probably no, as there is no physical security and can be ultimately cracked.

How can you protect something that isn't an absolute measure in the first place? A DNA profile is open to interpretation. It's not like a cell has a check summed electronically readable code in it. It's smears on gel of various densities, and the result depends on the processing technology and interpretation. You are only dealing with probabilities!

History shows that courts have a very poor record of comprehending such things...

http://society.guardian.co.uk/nhsperforman...1511799,00.html

..which is how OJ walked, and why it's just a matter of time before some innocent person doesn't.

An ID card system is only as secure as its weakest link; all the rest is illusion. How can you ever be sure that the person presenting that ID card is the person who is entitled to hold it? Or how can you be sure it was issued to the right person in the first place? Answer is that you can't!

We've plenty of methods of ID already, and anyone who thinks that all the hassle and huge expense of another one is going to improve anyone's lot is kidding themselves! Like very many things the govt brings in it's likely to be counterproductive for Joe Average.

It will be misused too, and all the assurances about this protection or that safeguard will ultimately go out of the window. This has happened time and time again in history, and is a standard tactic of big government.

I think ID cards should be brought in . All other forms of ID are quite easily forged .. The cards I think should have DNA records on them...

"Just a minute sir, we'll only detain you for half a day whilst we speedily carry out a DNA profile on our new high-speed lightweight equipment! Of course it's not entirely accurate, and the result could be open to interpretation, so you have the right of appeal, and a second test - at your own considerable expense, of course!"

I don't think you've thought this one through somehow.

I wouldn't trust the UK govt with my fingerprints - see the recent carry-on in Scotland for example - and I'd rather suffer imprisonment before I conceded a DNA sample.

Any large organisation follows its own agenda: generally the survival and increase in power of that organisation. When the organisation is large enough - as large as government - the problem becomes terminal. If you think differently then you haven't lived long enough.

It would be the duty of any sane right thinking citizen to confound, confuse and bring down any such system of citizen control. And.. I'm very sure that millions would be queueing up to do so! Bring it on Mr Politician - this law abiding near model citizen will be the first to the barricades - you won't last the month out!

.. and puts the truly guilty in the frame then I have not got a problem with it, ID cards, not sure.

DNA will put you away

unless your name is OJ

There's no credible case for ID cards. Only another way for big government to exercise control over (and tax) honest people, and something else for the dishonest ones to steal and forge.

Think of how many ID documents you already have. Is one more going to make anything more secure?

Is losing or not carrying your ID card going to be a criminal offence? Yes, and a lot of harmless and innocent people are going to be needlessly hurt. No, and they are a totally useless waste of billions of pounds.

You misunderstand. By "falling crime rate" what I mean is that there are fewer crimes taking place in the Northumbria area. This is a matter of statistical record.

The last ten years has seen crime decrease and prosperity increase. Despite what right-wing newspapers say, this country is not "going to hell on a handcart".

There are fewer recorded crimes, but that's not the same thing at all. People no longer bother to report minor ones because they know there's no redress and it's largely a waste of time. Also the police and Home Office (or department of whatever it's been re-badged this week) spend a fair portion of their time playing with the statistics. What matters is how people regard their community, and it's pretty clear that the vast majority fear for the future.

Blaming the newspapers - or the ones you don't agree with - for the situation is a poor excuse. We've had ten years of a government totally dominated by spin, and most people no longer believe anything they are told by big government. Even Gordon B. seems to acknowledge this in his latest speech.

And.. isn't the colloquialism going to hell in a handbasket?

spammers

Of course! About a dozen a day; and someone protects you from all the pills porn and poxy goods.

For every genuine member registering there are about fifty instances of Internet slime. And four out of five of the ones who have a genuine interest in our Town either don't read the rules on registering or don't have the courage to post a hello. Result: they get zapped after a polite reminder! As it says somewhere, the site is for active members only, we aren't collecting lurkers. That's why when you join you get a membership number of about 1300 at present.

Do not confuse the graffiti police with the thought police though. Superwoman and Batman+Robin rarely have a convo, and I'm not aware of any visible posts having been removed recently.

Yes Esme there was a dentist across the road for the Spar, it was a bit further up near the cut. I think his name was Mr Tully but I could be wrong about the name.

I remember going there one night when I came home from work, I had tooth ache all day and drooped in there. He did not have an appointment system as such you could go any time.

Spot on! The practise was called Hall & Tully, and they operated from a former private house in a one of the terraces on the Victoria Terrace side of the road - park right outside! The waiting room was the downstairs front room and Mr Tully had his surgery in the downstairs back room. There was a (main?) surgery at the Guidepost too, though I never went there.

Mr Tully was actually a very good dentist of the old school. I visited him quite a number of times in the 1970's when I got a little fed up with Mr Henderson on Front Street West. Though his gear wasn't anything like so up-to-date as Mr Henderson's, he was nevertheless a very competent NHS dentist. He was also fairly sociable, and, sad to say, he clearly knew and remembered a lot more about me that I ever remember about him!

He did have an appointment system, though I can't recall anyone else ever being in his waiting room when I was there - generally midweek. He didn't employ a dental nurse and I can't recall any sort of receptionist on site. I think there was quite probably another surgery upstairs, but it didn't seem to be in use by then.

Overall the practise did leave the impression of being from a bygone age, even in the early 1970's. I guess that by that time he was fairly close to retirement though.

I vaguely remember someone telling me that they'd closed the Station Road surgery, and that I now needed to go to Guidepost. It could be that they'd closed that too by the time I needed him again - because I never ever got there!

A coal fired station with 3x800mw machines installed, I don't remember the figures but I suspect the old A + B plants would barely match one machine in this proposal.

The A had (4x) 120MW generating sets and the B had 275MW generating sets.

That's a big M for megawatt, not a small m for milliwatt.

I'm told that the B was the second largest station in the country for quite some time. Technology moves on!

About 2,500 post offices - a fifth of those left in the UK - are to close by 2009, the government has confirmed.

And, you can bet Northumberland will suffer more than most!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6664109.stm

The Gardeners Arms is now the vets at 74 Front St. E. I believe the original windows were removed to the Morpeth branch.

Yes, you may be right on that one, I could well have been thinking of the (much lesser known) Oddfellows Arms.

But, hasn't that vets now closed down too? I remember a closure notice on the door.

What's new,? It's been part of Firefox for some time.

1) It's now supported directly by the board.

2) Most people don't use non-MS browsers.

The only association of the name I can recall is that the stone building (now flats) just before the easterly entrance to Hollymount Square was originally "The Gardner's Arms" public house.

I know this because I've seen the title deeds to the property, though I'm no longer sure about the precise spelling.

Read this.........end of the train

Means absolutely nothing, except maybe he didn't do his homework and/or was far too greedy. An uncontested CC judgement is not even a platform ticket! This one will run, and run, and...

It's the ABC/Tick button up top right of the text entry window.

So... no more excuses for lousy spelling; but picking the wright word might be a tad more difficult!

Installing this free Internet Explorer plug-in is well worth the couple of minutes effort, because - as already noted - it will work from the right mouse button on any text entry you do on any website. The website doesn't necessarily have to directly support it like this board does. The plug-in will also install an ABC/Tick icon on the IE Toolbar.

Enjoy!

A High Court judge has warned banks to stop behaving unreasonably when customers accuse them of levying unlawful overdraft charges.

Judge David Mackie QC issued the warning at the London Mercantile Court, in the Royal Courts of Justice.

He said some banks were wasting the time of claimants and the courts by pretending they would defend claims when they had no intention of doing so.

Full story from the Beeb here.

..I voted for on holiday in the poll but it did not count my vote, is it rigged?

Shouldn't think so; you have to click the VOTE button after you select the correct radio button.

Anyway, I've voted for you as I've no strong feelings on the Denzel issue!

..it looks like the proposed site is in Wansbeck, is it not?..

We were always told that BPS was the biggest contributor to Wansbeck rates. Of course sans Wansbeck this would have been Bedlington local taxes. And, a good many community centers that would have built by now!

And on a lighter matter - a much lighter matter - he'd probably have had difficulty taking your call anyway!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18334489/

No need to wait, they're all here in glorious broadband:-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/eurovision/2007/contestants/

Helsinki calling; what is the vote of the Bedlington Jury?

so is my post not going onto the northumberland chat then?

There were two - and I don't think crude comments on these lovely Russian ladies anatomy is going to do anything to further BedloRussian relations.

These poor Ruski ladies are (allegedly) only trying to improve their lot by marrying filthy rich Northumbrian sheep farmers, after all - thus giving a much-needed boost to the gene pool of the Upper Tyne Valley. And who but a total bigot would wish to stand in the way of true romance?

:lol: :lol:

but did it make you laugh?

No, it made me cringe!