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  1. 5 hours ago, mercuryg said:

    You said, quite clearly, there were no more than a handful of refugees. Yes? You did, didn't you? My role in the local bar is one of friendship, to all. As I've said, I couldn't care less about their religion, or race. Unlike, I fear, yourself. These days I scan read your posts, by the way, because they are long winded and boring. Brevity rules. Pound still over 76p. 

    "You said, quite clearly, there were no more than a handful of refugees. Yes? You did, didn't you?"  ---  And, your source of this deliberate misquote is....?

    [Note: you probably need to consult cohort CL for help here, because she's spent hours scrutinising my past posts.]

    "I couldn't care less about their religion, or race"   ---  So, because of this newly-assumed attitude, none of the straightforward questions I've put to you on the subject need to be answered?  OK, fine; I will keep them in abeyance until you start to care again.

    "My role in the local bar is one of friendship" --- I'd like to hear that from said alleged friends, because I suspect you employ the same bluff, bluster, and awkward-question avoidance tactics there too.

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  2. 4 hours ago, mercuryg said:

    52% of the electorate? You're good at spin, although not that good! You mean, of course, 52% of those who bothered to vote, which was about 70odd percent of the electorate, I believe. They voted for lies, didn't they? The vast majority couldn't give a monkeys chuff about the economic situation; they voted on immigration, the money for the NHS, and other lies, and you know that as much as I do. They voted for things they are not going to get. That's brilliant, isn't it? Bananas for all? 

     

    Twist an obvious typo and then imply that it was spin!  How clever!

    Have you thanked CL for the up vote here?  She's has no answers either, but is still rooting for you.  I think she deserves a better champion.

    "Bananas for all?"  Your contempt for the electorate is only matched by your paucity of thought.  With this in mind, have you considered standing for Labour; they are getting pretty desperate these days.  You'll probably make the shadow cabinet in a fortnight.

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  3. LOL!  That's a supreme effort in the cause of issue avoidance, and arguably deserves the (unfortunately now discredited) Nobel Peace Prize.

    Could you detail any particular instance of this "hate speech" please, and we will have it very thoroughly investigated by a third party?  I think what you actually mean is that any discussion or attempted discussion about the Islamic belief-set must be suppressed, discredited and shamed by all means possible, because that's the way it is in morally superior Sweden.

    The reality is that I embrace your Muslim friends, and have already offered you the opportunity to increase the gift.  So, again: I am more than happy to hand your visiting card out to many more.

    But... let's now remove the barrier of having to tediously post me a supply of visiting cards as I can assist you with this chore:  With your permission I will hand out slips of paper with your contact details on it, and the advice that if they make it to Sweden they are sure of a warm welcome from my friend there. To show my sincerity I will provide each such "refugee" with a 20 euro note to help them on their way - every such gift to be documented and posted here. 

    There is obviously a limit to this (unlike the apparently unlimited supply of so-called "refugees") so let's say only the first hundred. That's two thousand euros into the pockets of arguably the most needy, that only needs your say so.  I wouldn't worry too much about the actual numbers as I'm likely to be handing out more €20 notes than will ever take up your kind offer. Can we agree on this joint humanitarian effort, or are they no longer likely to receive the welcome they would have received if you'd acted earlier?

     

    BTW what is really puzzling me is that if these threads are as "dead" as you claim then surely they're nothing to get animated about?  Try some of the popular press comments sections if you want to go on a hate speech crusade - you'll find this far more fruitful than my "boring" observations.

  4. 7 hours ago, mercuryg said:

    "We'd be out on the streets to the last person showing our disgust and demonstrating solidarity with our hosts. "

    Seriously? Since when has this been a British trait? Are you actually from this country?

    Since long before we had a formal code for organising such protests. http://content.met.police.uk/Article/Organising-a-protest-march-or-static-demonstration/1400002380711/1400002380711

    Point me to an Islamic country that has a code for organised dissent with the ruling cliques please?

    When you are a guest in a foreign country you are particular sensitive to the doings of miscreants of your own nationality.  Well, at least you are unless you tacitly support them!  Here I'm going to quote that hotbed of right-wing extremism The Guardian:

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    Clerics who proclaim that non-believers and apostates must be killed or call for jihad against Jews have Twitter followings running into millions ... The ideology has deep roots. We have to reach right the way down and uproot it.

    Not something we are going to "uproot" if - like you - we are in total denial that such ideology even exists!

    What Makes Islam So Different?

     

    Despite your constantly running down your own country I don't see the need to cast doubt on your origins.

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  5. 5 hours ago, mercuryg said:

    Again, why are we using examples from the past to justify this? This is not 1992, and it's certainly not 1931, and it is even less certainly the mid 1850's when we repealed the Corn Laws. Let's see this economic recovery; bring it on. I'll not hold my breath.

    I think the title of "The Reformation offers a good lesson for Brexit" offers a clue here.

    What would this recovery be from?  If it's the disastrous affects of the Brexit vote I think you are utterly on your own on this one now.

    Yes, only the left's distorted interpretation of things holds any weight, and democracy is something that we can take or leave as according to convenience (EU style).  52% of the electorate are moral deviants, or ignorant, or utter fools!  There was no ridiculous scaremongering on behalf of Remain, and everything Leave said was a lie.   I guess we will just have to live with this until the glorious revolution, comrade - when those 17.5M morally deviant fools can be re-educated.  Would you like me to bring you a pot of tea at the barricades?

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    "3G :"If you have an open mind"

    If? Of course i have an open mind! That's why I see no problem with Muslims (by the way, love the get out clause - 'I have a problem with Islam' - is this the new 'some of my friends are muslims/black/gay?) - or persons of any religion or race. Each to their own, and as Canny Lass rightly points out, there are elements of Christianity that are equally worrying. 

    I don't see any "Of course"; I see an everything is black or white left-winger who's pet theories are being overtaken by events, and who is floundering.

    Can you point out these "elements of Christianity" that are worrying, or is this another of your bald statements that falls to a simple straightforward question?

    The old canard is to take a paragraph from The Old Testament and compare it to the Quran.  This precludes the fact that Christians regard the Old Testament as a quaint historical record that must be interpreted in a modern context. On the other hand the Quran is a manual for life that is violently beyond criticism.  The Quran specifically and repeatedly exhorts Muslims to go out and slaughter infidels.  It is the evil life-manual of an utterly evil belief set, and to compare it to any other religion is an ignorant slander.

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    I still don't understand, however, your blatant, and rather concerning, refusal to accept that people running from war-torn Syria are anything other than refugees. Why did they wait, I wonder, until their homes has been bombed to bits, before leaving? Surely, if - as you believe - they are a secret Muslim army, waiting to take over, they would have left before, before - that is - they had seen family members and loved ones killed, maimed, whatever by persons of their own religious persuasion? I mean, that would make more sense, if you look at it with your open mind, wouldn't it? Also, you come back to the 'they are pretty much all young males' line far too often'; I don't know which newspaper you read to get your misinformation, but a quick Google search (you're keen to have me use it, so here's one for you) tells you that this is simply not the case. What about all the kids, for example? Or are you classing them as 'young males' (you have to in order for your claim to stack up).

    "anything other than refugees"  Sheer delusion!  The overwhelming majority of the people flooding into Europe are simple economic migrants. Refugees have a desire to go home when their home situation is resolved; these young males have no intention of going back where they came from at any point in their futures.

    More bald unsubstantiated statements!  I see hundreds of these people with my own two eyes, and get to talk to a random selection.  Generally their English is far better than the natives here, and they are keen to illustrate this.  Of course I can't admit to your superior viewpoint of observing them from over my pint at Weatherspoons, but we'll all have to live with that.

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      To find an adult, one with obvious intelligence, trotting out the 'there are no refugees' line, is not amusing, it's worrying. 

    At no time have I said "that there are no refugees", so your worry is ill founded.  I am placed to observe what you are not, and as I've said I have yet to meet one of these alleged refugees.  Every one I've talked to is simply seeking a better life - ergo, they are undoubtedly economic migrants.

    And you've once again evaded the direct question:  There are eight points of the compass for refugees, and Arab countries like to be known for their hospitality.  Please explain why the compass for your alleged refugees only points North West?  Please explain why they are pretty much all young males?  Bullets, bombs and missiles don't discriminate in the way you'd like to suggest!

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    As for your assertions about 'rational people'; what, exactly do you mean by that? I have a rational approach to life - why wouldn't I? I have plenty of experience in working with and meeting people of all persuasions, and don't look at one person in a different way to others, no matter their religion or race. They are people, something you might want to consider (after all, you're the one who, when referring to Muslims, ten to use "they"; I wonder why?).

    Actually, you are doing your very best to illustrate that you don't think deeply or rationally.  You can't reason far enough to separate an inherited belief-set from the basic humanity of a human being.  Every one of the economic migrants I meet is only doing what any of us would do: seek a better life.  But, a significant proportion of them come with a cultural payload that is entirely incompatible with 21st century Western culture.  That cultural payload trashed their own countries, and is set to trash ours.  The other consideration is that the sheer scale of this economic migration is beyond anything we can reasonably absorb without significantly depressing our own living standards.  The refusal of the left to acknowledge both these factors is a folly now being exposed in Germany.  Germany has an excuse - their massive post-war national guilt complex - but our own left have no such excuse.

    "They are people, something you might want to consider"  I assure you that you have no monopoly on basic humanity, and that I've met many more of them and determined that they are indeed "people" than you have.  This is no more than the usual left wing tactic of claiming moral superiority on entirely fatuous grounds.

    "(after all, you're the one who, when referring to Muslims, ten to use "they"; I wonder why?)"  I'm sure CL will be able to more ably help your musings about English grammar here.

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    Further, I couldn't care how many times you have to assure me the pound is fine where it is; you should have thought about that before telling us it had recovered after Brexit, when anybody with a rational, open or whatever mind could take ten seconds and tell you how wrong you are. Just as you're wrong about their being 'a handful' of refugees. Pound Watch: 76 and a bit. Still not recovered, 3G still massively wrong and, I might add, businesses in the UK still not sure what the hell is going on.

    You're now floundering!  You haven't directly quoted what I said because you'd then need to include the words "Not too far I hope, for the sake of the UK economy."

    Willing your own country to fail is despicable and traitorous in my book.  The overwhelming evidence is that all the dire "expert" predictions were wrong.  Those "experts" now admit this (yes, even the IMF) but not you, and you imply that I don't live in the real world!   It seems that everyone is  "massively wrong" but yourself, and you've recently compared me to a saloon bar loudmouth!  Here, I'm left wondering about your own role in the local bar.

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    But the most obvious benefit to Brexit is that it compels us to look beyond Europe for our markets. I don’t like using history to make predictions, but decoupling from economic alliances has often proved beneficial. When we abandoned the Gold Standard in 1931, everyone predicted disaster – but it actually helped us get out of the Great Depression. When we slipped out of the Exchange Rate Mechanism in 1992, it felt like the sky had fallen in, but 15 years of astonishing growth followed.

    Crucially, the future is only as bleak as we allow it to become. Brexit was a vote to reaffirm British self-governance. We may choose to shrink the state and become a bigger, richer Hong Kong. We may choose to nationalise and build the socialist Jerusalem. What we must not choose is what so many Remainers seem to be willing on: we must not choose to fail.

    The Reformation offers a good lesson for Brexit

     

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  8. 12 hours ago, mercuryg said:

    3G; at least be honest, you have a massive problem with Muslims. You have a massive problem with immigrants. You believe that the refugees fleeing a war torn country where they would likely be killed are all ISIS sleepers. You'd fit in well at Britain First. Furthermore, you DO shout down others; you DO pick and choose information that suits your agenda. Perhaps you are so wrapped up in your own self belief that you don't see it? I don't believe I've met you, but sadly I have an image of you as the self righteous pompous oaf at the bar whom everyone avoids. I wonder why? Oh, and the pound still over 76p on the dollar. I'm sure you told us it had recovered.

    I have met loads of immigrants as they get their first foot on European soil; I have yet to meet a single one who any rational person would class as a refugee.  There are eight points of the compass for refugees, and Arab countries like to be known for their hospitality.  Please explain why the compass for your alleged refugees only points North West?  Please explain why they are pretty much all young males?  Bullets, bombs and missiles don't discriminate in the way you'd like to suggest!

    Once again - because the distinction seems to be very hard for you - my problem is with Islam, and it's a problem we all share if we are honest.  Ask yourself what Brits would do if the atrocities that are now being perpetrated were being associated with them.  We'd be out on the streets to the last person showing our disgust and demonstrating solidarity with our hosts.  Where are the Islamic protest marches, or at least those that aren't organised by ex-muslims?

    I will refrain from characterising you, and I don't frequent UK bars. Here you are attempting left-wing labelling (a substitute for thought) once again!

    If you have an open mind then google on ex-muslim and read what ex-muslims have to say about Islam.  You'll find plenty if things to support your wooly-minded ideas of fraternity, but at the end of the day any rational person will need to admit that Islam is an evil belief-set that no free country should tolerate.

    How many more times do I need to say that the pound is just fine where it is?  It's the only visible affect of the Brexit vote for you to point to; all other indications have totally confounded economist group-think, and the honest ones have already admitted this.  Even here predictions were for a 20% fall in Sterling, and the last time I looked it was a modest 8.3%.

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  9. 5 hours ago, mercuryg said:

    Hey 3G, you didn't pick up on the 'read between the lines' bit in that quote, did you? Of course, having journalistic experience, I'm good at it! I'm referring to this bit: 'so far'; that means the writer is fully accepting that things may yet go tits up. so to speak! It's always worth reading things carefully to pick up on little titbits such as this, rather than taking everything at face value. There, a nice tip for the future.

    Poundwatch: 76 and bit pence this morning. Getting ever closer to the 65p pre-possible-brexit level (no, not really....)

    Keep talking down your own country down Merc; even after all the other false starts the sunny uplands of the internationalist New World Order are still within our grasp.

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    Though, maybe you need to explain to us voters exactly how putting the UK under control of international capitalism, and hammering down their wages achieves this?  The problem with any means to an end is that the means become the end.

     

  10. 4 hours ago, mercuryg said:

     

    "Finland showdown with Brussels after Finns rule 77% of Iraqi migrants could be sent home"

    Brilliant; will they slaughter all the Jews next? I know, let's all go back to the 1930's, and turn to far right wing ideology! It worked back then, of course...

    3G, have you joined Britain First yet? They like your sort.

    I don't have any problem with Jews - quite possibly because I'm not a member of the Labour Party.

    I don't have any problem with ex-Muslims either, or indeed most Muslims on a one-to-one level, where they are well away from the evil influence of the religion of peace.  I provide a tiny bit of financial support now and then to Muslims taking up Mrs Merkel's over-generous invite to help them on their way.  Interestingly, they aren't actually fleeing from anything other than a miserable life in yet another country trashed by the evils of Islam.

    I don't go around implying people who I don't agree with are extremists in order to demonstrate an "obvious" moral superiority.

    My "sort" see the world as it is, not as we FEEL it SHOULD be.  My "sort" don't suppress information that doesn't fit our narrow narrative, and don't shout down others.  My "sort" does not feel a need to dominate and obliterate other cultures and nations to promulgate a supposed New World Order.  My "sort" progress by enlightened self-interest, and not by re-writing the dictionary.  My "sort" are the rational people of this world.

  11. I told you it was written by one of your Remainian chums Merc, so undoubtedly I'd be gifting something that you could cherry pick.

    Uncertainty is part of life, and you can't wish it away.  It's the fuel of progress (and the stock market).

    That propaganda about Remain having a monopoly on "progressivism" fell flat at the referendum, and it's wearing thinner by the day.  As for a time when the world was "a very, very different place":  I will simply quote from that stellar "progressive" Mikhail Gorbachev.

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    The most puzzling development in politics during the last decade is the apparent determination of Western European leaders to re-create the Soviet Union in Western Europe.

     

  12. 4 hours ago, Canny lass said:

    I feel the vibes of your happiness and am happy for you.

    The pizza turned into a really nice meal out in a deeply suburban square with the locals of the next town - way off the tourist path.  Unfortunately when I selected the restaurant's WiFi key the "religion of peace" ruined the whole thing by slaughtering another 8 or 9? innocent people.  Well... the BBC Guardianista narrative - following the German self-delusion - is that these are possibly white extremists, but other media is being a little more transparent.

    As you asked my opinion on cycling: if I were a female in Sweden I certainly wouldn't be going out cycling alone; go to the Gym, preferably a busy one where you are surrounded by burly Swedes.

  13. 1 hour ago, Canny lass said:

    I’m sensing a feeling of desperation. I understand. Perhaps a walk or a cycle ride would help release some pent up tensions? What’s your opinion on exercise btw? Do you think it’s is all it’s cracked up to be? It’s beggared my knees, and there was I thinking I was ‘keeping myself fit’.

    At very least 7.5Km every evening when it cools off.  €100 bike is almost 10 years old, but has all the bolt-ons and is still rather good.  On the roads here you really need that cantilever sprung rear wheel.  Just come out the pool.  Yes, desperate for a (small) pizza.  Ciao!

  14. 38 minutes ago, webtrekker said:

    If I were you 3g, I'd stick to the previously mentioned Kipling and his exceedingly good cakes!

    Kipling?!  No need, my mum bought 'IF' for me when I was little and hung it on the wall.  Can't say I've still got it word for word, but most of it is still there.

    The WSJ is good reading though:

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    Some weeks ago, my significant other, a native Swede, and I hosted a dinner party where he specifically asked me not to express my views on the refugee crisis to avoid an uncomfortable situation. To me, this was unfathomable. Even if their opinions were different, I was still interested in having an open discussion. I wanted to understand the reasoning behind their opinions.

    Puzzled, I reached out to an American expat in Stockholm who has lived in Sweden since 2013 to see if his experience matched mine. Although he asked that his name not be used, he said: “If you have an opinion that slightly differs from what’s seen as popular or safe, you can easily be labeled as a racist.”

    One reason for what seemed to me a dearth of discussion might be the way that Swedes see themselves. Gunnar Gilberg, Gothenburg University lecturer for sociology and work science, said: “One explanation of why the migration debate is so sensitive in Sweden is probably the Swedish self-image of being a moral superpower. Many in Sweden really want to be good people and there’s a black-and-white perception of who the victim is and who is guilty. If you are critical, for example, of immigration in Sweden you can be quickly seen as morally deviant.” He added that this collective mindset has tended to block debate among politicians, journalists and opinion leaders.

    Sensitivity over this topic was something I’d not been accustomed to among my circle in New York. As I tried to discuss issues among several friends and acquaintances in Sweden, I soon realized from the glares and awkward silences that this was not a topic to bring to the dinner table. Was it possible to show support for Sweden’s admirable humanitarian efforts yet still address a bit of concern to what this would mean for the future?

    ...

    Why the Swedes I Know Are Reluctant to Talk About the Refugee Crisis

    Shall we agree that the answer to his question is an emphatic NO?

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  15. 11 hours ago, Eggy1948 said:

    Surely the happiest day of anyone's life is always 'today'. Everyday we wake up has to be the the best day of one's life. One day we wont wake up, celebrate today.

    What, no afterlife?!  You do understand that that's so heretical that you could easily be slaughtered on the spot?  Meanwhile, do leave the shorts in the drawer.

    10 hours ago, Canny lass said:

    You are unhappy. I feel your pain. Take solace in the fact that you are not alone. Millions in the world are unhappy with you. Should we look at some funny cat videos on YouTube? That usually works a treat for my grandchildren when they’re unhappy.

    You're right; I think I will convert to Islam. Do they do waterproof Qurans - so that I can study in the pool?

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  16. On 20/07/2016 at 17:22, Canny lass said:

    "an establishment cover up", eh? My word you do have inside information on a lot of things - number of islamistic activists in the UK, number of rapes in Sweden, direct lines to the tory government and now this!

    You may just have read way too much Enid Blyton as a youngster.

    Yes, I know, I know, all journalists, of all political persuasions  - including left-wing journalists who really really wish it wasn't true  - lie in their teeth about Sweden (to sell newspapers), and everything government-bought academics say is unassailable.

    How's the planet that Sweden has moved to doing, though it looks like Finland (and likely Norway too) is still on planet Earth?

    Finland showdown with Brussels after Finns rule 77% of Iraqi migrants could be sent home

    Follows:

    • Attack on credibility of DE ("direct lines to the tory government and now this" - different paper of different political persuasion, actually).
    • Syntactic analysis of text to demonstrate that black=white.
    • implications that poster is know-it-all simply because he listens to the breadth of what is being said ("My word you do have inside information on a lot of things").
    • Patronising derision ("You may just have read way too much Enid Blyton as a youngster.")
    • Argument invalid because poster carelessly hit apostrophe.
    • Ad hominem attack on people the poster profoundly disagrees with, but respects their views and right to say it (Red Ken).
    • Declaration that poster is mentally unbalanced. (Lost argument flag).
    • Let's change the subject (What's the weather like where you are?).
    • ...anything but address the actual issue raised in an honest manner.

    Obviously missed quite a few there, but I'm sure you will help out! :)

     

    [UPDATE]  Thanks!

    • Quote Kipling to falsely imply poster is upset (I like the Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools bit, myself.)  :)
  17. 8 hours ago, mercuryg said:

    No 3G, I just like to remind you you were wrong! It's fun! 

    Merc, did you notice that your Remainian friends are talking about you in the Torygraph?

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    To everyone’s relief, the economic impact of the Brexit vote has so far not been as bad as many – including me – feared it might be. Well, perhaps not everyone, for there is nothing quite as galling as to be proved wrong. For many of those who warned of catastrophe, a recession is still greatly to be desired – so as to punish voters for their own stupidity, as it were.

    This is a natural enough reaction, but it is not at all constructive, particularly when it comes to business, where success depends on the ability to adapt and respond opportunistically and optimistically to any change in circumstance.

    How Brexit can set Britain free to boom again

  18. 1 hour ago, Canny lass said:

    I think I'm understanding that you are irritated. Try to think of something other than politics for a while. How's the weather in Italy at the minute? Are you still caught up in the middle of a heatwave? 

    Yes, I'm irritated that you are exploiting the rules to post off topic here. (Though nothing like as irritated as you get when I wind you up).  But, you know, (forum) rules are the rules, so please go tell the people who are bad losers, and who you are supporting, this.

    The norm is not the subject for conversation here, and you become acclimatised after three or four years..  We just have to hunker down in a pool, and maybe order a new aircon now and then.  And, of course, there's siesta.  If you can't afford the (politically) inflated electricity prices - they are far higher for non-residents (politics, again) - you can always go to a shopping mall and use their aircon over an unbelievably cheap cup of coffee until near sundown.  It's a hell of a life, but it still beats the frozen North for most of the year.  Pity about the economy being trashed by the ECB, but things will change; the Italians may be slow at times (this is balanced by the need for speed), but they certainly aren't stupid..

    Was there still too much politics there?

  19. 20 hours ago, mercuryg said:

    "there is nothing to recover from - the pound is fine just where it is."

    What? The reason I keep posting updates on the pound/dollar is because, among your things that would not happen, you clearly stated it was recovering. It's not.

    Wouldn't it have been more appropriate to quote the actual phrase you referred to in your assertion?  (This would have enabled more accurate syntactic analysis by cohort CL.)

    Do you want Sterling to fall, or do you want it to rise, and against what reference?  A simple question, and a straight answer would be nice.  In the absence of an answer your position looks a bit like the position of the Labour Party on many issues: we will will cherry pick reality to suit our narrative, even if the overwhelming body of evidence says we were utterly wrong.  My own position is clear: "the pound is fine just where it is."

    Today's rate is well off the recent lows and maintaining a fairly steady €1.20 and that's just fine.  All hell is about to break lose in the Eurozone, so you'd be well advised not to bet against your own house.  As I've already said, our problem now is that we are still far too close to the EZ for comfort, as we have been foolishly committed to the ESM for political reasons.  Unlike yourself I truly hope I'm wrong, and that the ESM demands won't roll in.  If they do it will be political dynamite, and another affirmation of the urgent need to leave.

  20. On 19/07/2016 at 20:41, Canny lass said:

    He also said that Boris Johnson would be next Prime Minister - and he isn't:

    “The former London Mayor [Ken Livingstone] said Brexit would usher in Boris Johnson as Prime Minister so he would think about "emigrating to somewhere the economy is not going to collapse".

    His comments, in his local newspaper the Ham and High, come just days after it was reported Labour bosses had blocked him from making media appearances after deciding he was "uncontrollable".”

    https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/labour-party/news/73826/ken-livingstone-brexit-could-make-me-leave-country

    "Someone who should be admired for "having the guts" to readily admit they were stupidly wrong." Really?

    Yawn!  The usual diversionary ad hominem attack - this time on good old Red Ken.

    1. I agree with hardly anything Ken says.
    2. BUT I think Ken is an honest man who says what he genuinely thinks.
    3. Ken recently spoke about Nazism and made some interesting, utterly factual, observations.
    4. The Labour Party doesn't like the truth, and failing to shut him up suspended him.  (To use your words: shame on them.)
    5. Unlike yourself I don't feel any need to agree with anyone to give them credit for being honest and transparent.
    6. Ergo: Yes, really!

    [Don't worry, I'm working through the other reams of rambling misconstrued garbage and diversionary off-topic stuff, as time permits.]

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