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Well I have to agree. If it's got to start somewhere, it should start with the people who package the stuff in the first place. They could try to at least use recycable materials. I know it might not be possible a lot of the time though... We should all be bothered about the amount of rubbish we produce. We cant just dump it forever... Try taking recycable materials like glass to bottle banks etc and compost your food waste. Already there's a hell of a lot less rubbish for you to have to pay to throw away!

Just like ASBO's...

Yeah I heard about the stabbing at Newcastle... I agree, things seem to be getting way out of hand.

It's just pine tree's Pete, have you never been before?

Nah!

Of course, we may never know what his other minor offences were - it may be that this isnt the first time he's thrown a sausage at an OAP. Anyway, being took to the station and having fingerprints taken etc, has obviously effected him. It might make him think twice in future...

If no one wants to be mod then thats that, it doesnt matter what the poll shows. Mongo, you said that you wanted to edit peoples swearing didnt you?

Why are you going around shouting at everyone for no reason?

Start anything you like!

Just been watching the news and some poor kid (11 year old) has been shot in the head and has died in hospital. Apparently a lad went by on his bike and fired 3 times towards the group of kids playing football. Is it just me or is there more and more people being killed randomly with guns - or is it just being reported more often?

The poor old chep thought he'd been hit with a stone, apparently people had been hounding him for a while... So what should have happened to the kid then? Anyone got any better ideas as to what should be done to kids throwing sausages, or do you think the police did the right thing?

I'm sorry but I just had to laugh when I read this... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/6958826.stm I know it's not right throwing stuff at old people but the police I think did go over the top here. What do you all think?

Germany 2 - 1 England

It's true Mr Darn, they have a little park there, it's been there for years now. At the weekends theres football on too, and I've seen kids teams playing there on a few occasions. I went a couple of weeks ago and I saw a huge hare, I didnt realise they were so big! Then again it was sitting at the top of the hill which probably made it look even bigger! I saw a fox once too, mind it was dead but still... There's lots of nice wild flowers, they dont last long though because the grass cutters come around every so often. You should get yourself away up there sometime, when you get your camera you never know, you might even get some decent photos.

I agree, I think thats why they looked so small to me - because of the huge white structure they stand on. The fact that it's bright white doesn't help either.

No ones got the heart to put the place down. It is home, after all.

England 1-1 Germany

Malcolm must have x-ray vision to see a thong through a pair of bronze jeans!

It's the pit heaps Pete

Same thing.

Just because Hamburger is the moderator of this section doesn't mean he has to write all the content for it.

Malcolm, how do you know she's got a thong on? Thats just the hem of the jeans, besides any women would be hard pressed to find a pair of full knickers these days. I know what you mean though, I wondered if they were supposed to represent people of the north, with the cap and the miserable faces! But at least we can say we have something different!

I see a few pubs have installed benches / tables / umbrellas outside now for the smokers.

I went to see them yesterday, I was expecting them to be a bit bigger than they were.