You've Been 'ad Feminazis!

[threegee]

Countless columns where written about it; numerous "feminist" commentators were interviewed - all expressing satisfaction that all the years of campaigning had now borne fruit; that good sense and political correctness had finally prevailed.  All's fine with the World, until - in the next few moments - the Greek chorus settles on the next wrong to right.

 

Then, yesterday, an article appeared which floated the interesting proposition that The Sun would have abandoned "p3" a decade ago if it hadn't been for all the valuable publicity provided by "feminist" protest. Silence from the chattering classes; they who won't accept any proposition that life is just a little more complicated than their myopic and childishly naive view of the world demands. Then, this morning, the final dagger (but, IS it? ):

 

 

Well... however you feel about "p3" you have to appreciate the joke.  Not to at least fake a chuckle would make you one of those myopic, politically correct, simpletons, who are so so easily led!

[threegee]

So far, so dreadfully unfunny.

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/brogan-driscoll/page-3-the-sun_b_6522938.html?utm_hp_ref=uk

 

Oh, they can dole out the mockery, but they can't take it!

 

The Sun may think its had the last laugh, but its childish behaviour has only strengthened the reach of the anti-Page 3 debate. Not only has it brought the issue to a wider audience, but helped to enlist more supporters.

 

On Monday evening, when the news broke on Twitter, No More Page 3's founder Lucy-Anne Holmes appeared on Newsnight. By Tuesday morning, other HQers has appeared on BBC Breakfast. Coverage and debate is still going strong days later.

 

For a campaign counting 215,000 signatories on Tuesday morning, reaching such captive audiences has enormous potential.

 

The Sun may think its had the last laugh, but its childish behaviour has only... - goodness, sounds just like my former head master, on a bad day in his secret fight against "substance abuse"!

 

Yup, 215,000 signatures from twitterers with a ten second attention span. Whether The Sun actually drops p3 will depend exclusively on sales, and not in any way on endless, completely ignorable, cyber-petitions.  I've never bought a single copy since the first freebie intros flopped through the Hartford Road letter box in the mid '60s.  But hey - for a laugh...!

[Adam Hogg]

So true at and after 1.10.

[Tonyp]

Rupert & Nigel must be from the same camp !! Getting the unbelievable to come across as believable especially the gullible

It's just a shame people are still reading this rubbish, You never know, page 3 might pop up in Nigel's favourite rag...

[threegee]

Wrong thread Tony! This is the one where you were supposed to express support for (blue haired) feminazis!  Not being called on to defend "the objectification of women" has totally ruined my day!

[Tonyp]

Ggg I don't read the Sun since Sheffield,I know What Nigel reads some anti East European tabloid & you know the paper I'm on

about as I said before there not an influx of migrants in the North East..As for the feminist remark what I believe in is equal rights

if a woman can do a job better than a man she should be paid accordingly wheather she has blue hair or not what about guys with earrings is there a name for them of coarse not its called freedom of choice,nothing wrong in that...

[Malcolm Robinson]

I don't mind looking at naked young ladies, not interested at all in looking at naked young men, so as far as I can see there is one better suited for the job than the other? .............. Simple isn't it?

[threegee]

Ah, an immigration denial!  That's what half the Labour Westminster elites do! Or at least what they all do half of the time.  It's the overall pressure on services and wages.  Immigrants go to where the jobs are, and where other immigrants have already shown the way - so they ghettoise.

 

The other strategy to justify the unjustifiable is to say "yes, we recognise that we made a huge mistake, we must have a serious debate about this."  Either way what they mean is that we have b-all intention of carrying on any differently: immigrant votes (together with the gullible and inexperienced young) are the only way we are going to keep our seat in the Labour carriages of the gravy train.

 

The Migration Advisory Committee said there were 23 fewer UK jobs for every 100 migrants from outside the EU.

 

That's not taking any account on the pressure on UK wages, or the pressure on services, or the revenue loss. Temporary immigrants repatriate most of their wages, so that cash is lost to the local economy. The ones who don't repatriate their earnings bring their families to put more pressures on the social services like the NHS. Services they could only dream about at home!  Immigrants don't feed at the trough of the Westminster elites, they take their metaphorical food from the tables of the least well off!  That's generally the people who still buy in to the myth that Labour is for the workers.  What was once true is now a cruel deception Tony!

 

If I was a socialist I'd be calling working class Labour voters class traitors!  I don't go in for labels though - blue haired doesn't mean that a person is less worthy of respect as you so rightly point out.  It's what people say, and crucially what they do, that matters.  Right now you're being very selective about NOT applying mindless labels, and NOT seeing past the superficial.  The superfice is that anyone in the Labour Party (except a few exceptionally dumb, tribal, local politicos) cares one iota about the traditional Labour constituency.

 

Even dumb old Ian Lavery has worked out that something is very wrong:

 

"We've got an elite in Westminster which, quite frankly, frightens me.

"They haven't been anywhere or done anything, and when you've got an accent like mine, they think 'Well, that man doesn't know too much'.”

 

You know what Ian: your own constituents think you don't know too much!  You still can't see that you are being used as a shill by that "elite in Westminster".

 

He can't make the logical leap to supporting a party which is genuinely democratic; the only one that represents working class opinion and interests.  It's takes a lot of courage to admit you've been misled, and particularly that you yourself have been leading other people down the wrong path.  Some intelligent Labour people have already made that transition, and many more will follow.  You should seriously consider it yourself!

 

[i resisted the temptation to add more links, but there are links aplenty. ]

[threegee]

I don't mind looking at naked young ladies, not interested at all in looking at naked young men, so as far as I can see there is one better suited for the job than the other? .............. Simple isn't it?

 

Buy hey, you are "objectifying women" Malc. That seems to be something rather bad.

 

How bad never seems to have occurred to classical artists.  And, that classical art "objectifies women" never seems to occur to feminists.  Or at least there's something creepily "classist" about the whole current furore.  Torch the National Gallery, I say; lets be done with it, so the Cultural Marxists can concentrate on their next great issue!

 

Or... maybe, just maybe, there are different forces at work in some of those female minds?  No, no, I'm certainly not going there!  Cartoons of Muhammad are one thing, but there are certain practical limits.

[Malcolm Robinson]

No I'm not GGG, I'm just admiring skin tones!

[threegee]

Yes, yes, but you have to add a few cherubs for the ladies to feel good about!

[mercuryg]

"Immigrants go to where the jobs are"

 

Good point ggg, and why do you think that is? In other words, why are the masses of unemployed UK persons not already filling those jobs?

 

I have sister in Lincolnshire, a few miles from Boston. There are a lot of manual jobs in the agricultural sector around there. Pretty much all of them are taken by Eastern European immigrants. Ask any of the employers why and you get the same answer: the jobs are laborious, the pay isn't great, the hours long; the Brits don't want to do it. They are, according to those in the industry, inherently lazy. Now,of course, I'm generalising to a degree, but it's the way it is around there and, I suspect, in many other areas.

 

So, what happens should we tighten the immigration laws and open up those jobs for natives; are they suddenly going to want jobs they didn't want before? If so, why?

 

This is one reason I'm wary of UKIP; far too much emphasis is put upon immigration, when the inherent problems - I believe - actually begin at home, with those who are born and bred here.

[Tonyp]

Malcolm,what if somebody was looking at your missus or daughter the same way you are looking at page 3 with your thoughts what would you think honest opinion please???

[Tonyp]

Ggg ukip defector to the Tories right wing to where they feel safe

[Malcolm Robinson]

Really Tony??????????

[mercuryg]

Interesting comment Tony; as blokes I dare say we all appreciate a pretty girl.If I see one walking down the street, in the pub, on the bus, I'll certainly cast her a glance.Isn't that, after all, why they are designed that way?

 

Your comment seems to imply - and I don't mean this personally - that men looking at page three girls have ulterior motives in mind, are somehow doing something wrong; why is that so?

 

I'd like to answer the question you put to Malcolm: if my wife or daughter wanted to get her top off for money, and looked as good as those girls do, why not? It's easy money.

[Malcolm Robinson]

Which would be my implied point merc…………..they haven't chosen to be page 3 models!

Might as well sign a petition, Tonyp for President of the United States of Europe!

[threegee]

..they haven't chosen...

 

The essential problem is when and how are men supposed to know what is chosen?  Women are never duplicitous; women never reconsider things; women never have regrets; women have perfect memories of past events; women always know their own mind. These are statements of fact - in a feminazi world!  The only fact I'm sure of is that there are a lot of highly confused young males out there who are constantly being fed mixed messages, and have no voice.

 

A clear case for legislation demanding plain packaging I think.  OMG that's the burka - but we are going there already, so that's OK!

[Malcolm Robinson]

GGG you will be joining the Labour party next!!!!!!!!!!!

[threegee]

I HAVE joined the Labour Party - it's just that all the Labour leadership left a long while ago, and it has since been renamed UKIP!  Else, how do you explain the present love affair with international capitalism, the EU, and distinctly non-British values?

 

The only non-revisionist thing new age Labour advocate is retaining our national defence, but a coalition with the SNP, or God forbid Communism with Plants, is going to cover that one for them!

[Symptoms]

Look the modern day snappers are exactly the same as those old guys who painted lasses with their kit off and are just the same as those old guys who painted the magic lantern slides showing lasses hoiking their bustles down;  they are just the same as those old guys who created the early flicker books showing lasses peeling off their silk stockings and they are the same as those old guys creating their daguerreotypes of lasses whipping off their cami knickers; they are the same as those old guys who ....  Yep, you get the idea! 

 

Why?  To feed the base need for all those 'dirty old men in their grubby macks'.  These are the same 'dirty old men' who paw over page 3 and attempt to access the throbnet via their sticky keyboards.  Oh, and it's very noticeable how very, very young many of these glamour models are, still in or barely out of adolescence - "call the Jimmy Savile Squad".

[Canny lass]

I don't hear anybody - male or female - complaining about all the male nudity that surrounds us. What's the difference between a bare breasted P3 girl and a bare breasted hunk of male with bulging 'muscles', the type of man that adorns advertising spaces the World over, the type of man that adorns public Buildings the World over, the type of man that adorns parks and gardens the World over, the type of man thet adorns glossy Magazines the World over? ´No I don't hear anybody complaining about them - well, not unless you Count the popes who've put fig leaves on all the dangly bits throughout the Vatican City. (Well Worth a visit never the less girls). I'll have to stop here. I'm getting all hot and bothered!!!

[Maggie/915]

Well said Canny lass.

Biased perception maybe !!