anniemarr

[Stuart Ashing]

On 01/07/2019 at 13:18, anniemarr said:

Hi, Yes it could.  I believe it was demolished probably 1980's, it was a very old farm.  My friend, Sylvia, is so keen to have a photo, sketch and information on the farm and I have tried Ancestry but no luck so far.  Thank you so much for helping. Annie

I’m looking for info on the farm too.

my great grand parents were tennant farmers there until 1954

[Alan Edgar (Eggy1948)]

58 minutes ago, Stuart Ashing said:

I’m looking for info on the farm too.

my great grand parents were tennant farmers there until 1954

@Stuart Ashing as you will see it's a while since anyone posted anything on the farm.

Sometimes if you 'Tag' those members who have previously added info on the topic they may respond🤞

On this group you can Tag = notify members by starting with the @ character followed by inputting their name tag  immediately after the @. When you do that a list of names appears eg :- @Sa

and you can select the namefrom the list that appears and the name you are typing will be highlighted and a message sent to them by the system.

Edited July 6, 2024 by Alan Edgar (Eggy1948)

[Stuart Ashing]

Thanks

[Susan J-D]

Hi I have just joined and was searching for Coney Garth Farm and Home Farm. I noticed this stream and the info on Coney Garth Farm my Great Grandfsther was apparently a dairy manager there. He lived at Home Farm and was down as Farm.Manager . I have pictures of my Granfather , my mother and Aunt as young girls . I just wondered if anyone had information about Home Farm and where it is I think it is a housing estate. Many thanks Susan

[Alan Edgar (Eggy1948)]

18 hours ago, Susan J-D said:

Hi I have just joined and was searching for Coney Garth Farm and Home Farm. I noticed this stream and the info on Coney Garth Farm my Great Grandfsther was apparently a dairy manager there. He lived at Home Farm and was down as Farm.Manager . I have pictures of my Granfather , my mother and Aunt as young girls . I just wondered if anyone had information about Home Farm and where it is I think it is a housing estate. Many thanks Susan

@Susan J-D Home farm has had a mentio before within this group but indepth research. If you use the 'Search' facility (magnifying glass) and input - "Home Farm" (quotation marks a must) you will be returned two old topics where the phrase was used but the only mention of it's whereabouts is one comment saying it was on Netherton Lane.

I will have a look on the old maps and see if I can find anything and I will let you know one way or the other🤞. Have you looked at any old maps?

Edited June 21 by Alan Edgar (Eggy1948)

[Alan Edgar (Eggy1948)]

On 21/06/2025 at 09:44, Alan Edgar (Eggy1948) said:

@Susan J-D Home farm has had a mentio before within this group but indepth research. If you use the 'Search' facility (magnifying glass) and input - "Home Farm" (quotation marks a must) you will be returned two old topics where the phrase was used but the only mention of it's whereabouts is one comment saying it was on Netherton Lane.

I will have a look on the old maps and see if I can find anything and I will let you know one way or the other🤞. Have you looked at any old maps?

Should say ............... mention before within this group but NO indepth research

[Susan J-D]

Hi, thank you so much for this. My husband and I have looked at some old maps but we were not sure exactly where it was. We looked at the postcode for the current Home Farm estate. I will try what you suggest. Many thanks for your help. My Great Grandparents Mr and Mrs James Scott lived there. I think they owned it but not sure. Also I am not sure when it was sold. They are both registered as dying in Ashington. Thank you again for your help Susan 

[Alan Edgar (Eggy1948)]

@Susan J-D - I also had a look thrrough the 1866 to 1920 ordenance Survey maps but coulldn't find a 'Home Farm' in the Netherton - Bedlington or Ashington areas.

What's the postcode, cos I can't see a current local Home Farm Estate, that you checked? 

 

 

[Susan J-D]

NE63 HQX on Right move shows Home Farm Estate

 

[Susan J-D]

Sorry 8 QX

[Canny lass]

@Susan J-D 

Have you considered that Home Farm and Coney Garth may be one and the same thing? The name “Home Farm” is traditionally used to refer to any farm that is part of the manor house’s demesne – often the farm lying closest to the manor house. These were often farmed by a farm manager, hired by the lord of the manor, to cater for the needs of his household while other land was rented out to tenant farmers.

Looking at this map from 1859 you can see that Coney Garth (centre), located between Ashington and Pegswood, is a considerable size and just a stone’s throw from Bothal Castle (bottom left) and also part of the Bothal Demesne.

Of course, your relative may not have worked for the lord of the manor. Much depends upon when your relatives lived there. The name Home Farm can live on for centuries after being used as such.

[Susan J-D]

Hi, Thank you for this suggestion - my Great Grandfather James Scott was born on 1 Dec 1879 and in the 1939 England and Wales Register for Ashington was listed against Coney Moor Farm as Dairy Manager

In 1911 Census he was down as a Farmer at age 31 

I know there was an Ashington Farm but I am not sure that is the same as Home Farm

I have found some information in Northumberland Archives and it mentions several glass plate negatives showing "Home Farm one of the Ashington Coal Company Farms"  I will ring them on Wednesday when they are open.

Many Thanks for everyone's help any other information would be gratefully received

Susan

 

 

 

[Canny lass]

Hi again @Susan J-D. 

It’s been a cold, wet weekend here which gave me time to have another look at your question.

I still think that Coney Garth may be the home farm for Bothal Castle – which was originally the manor house before being granted the rights to call itself a castle. As a manor house under the feudal system, it would certainly have a home farm. As I said before, the home farm was usually close to the manor house and that would certainly make Coney Garth a respectable contender.

However, I have to admit that I have been assuming that Coney Garth (marked red on the map) and Coneygarth Moor Farm (marked blue on the map) were the same thing. A more thorough rummage through the old maps has shown me that this was not the case.

Coney Garth has been named on maps since at least 1805 and, while the small cluster of buildings to its east have appeared an equally long time, it is not until 1921 that the name Coneygarth Moor appears.

Your great grandfather, James Scott, seems (according to the births of his sons James and Thomas John) to have moved the 40 or so miles from Lowick to Ashington at some point roughly between 1914 and 1921. Just where he moved to is difficult to say but certainly in 1921 he was living and working at Coneygarth Moor Farm in the Bothal Demesne and he was still there in 1939. He did not own the farm though, as you say, he was a farm owner prior to his move to Ashington – as was his father before him.

James was, in 1921, a farm steward - a very respectable position - employed by the Ashington Coal Company who owned the farm – as well as the remaining seven largest farms in the area. All 8 farms were run by one farm manager; George Preston Graham, and he lived in one of the large houses on Woodbine Terrace (marked yellow on the map) just a stone’s throw from your great grandfather.

At that time Ashington Coal Company was owned by the Portland family who lived at Bothal Castle (which is still owned and occupied by their descendants), so indirectly James was employed by the lord of the manor – the Duke of Portland. He, and his Ashington Coal Company, seem to have been good employers. They built many houses for workers in both the mines and on the farms and one purpose of the farms was, in fact, to supply food for the workers. They had a milk ration of 2 quarts a day and even the farm cats had a ration of 1 pint a day!

If you have seen your great grandfather’s address given as “Home Farm” on any document then Home Farm would seem to be Coneygarth Moor Farm rather than Coney Garth. I find it surprising that Coneygarth Moor farm should be the home farm as it is considerably less in size than Coney Garth – which, having had a good look around the maps, seems to be by far the largest in the area as well as being located nearest to the manor house.

Let us know how you get on at the Northumberland Archives!