loopylou Posted October 20, 2024 Posted October 20, 2024 Hi, this is my first post on here. Whilst doing research Iâve discovered one of my ancestors (surname Dixon) was born in 1846 at âMount Pleasant Granaryâ in Bedlington. Iâve never heard of this place before, does anyone have any idea where it was? In later censuses his birth is down as Sleekburn so maybe it was near here. All I can find on google about it is another person who was born there in 1851.  Thank you đ 1
Alan Edgar (Eggy1948) Posted October 24, 2024 Posted October 24, 2024 Welcome to the group @loopylou. I have seen 'Mount Pleasant' memmtion on the old maps of the area but can't remember having heard about a Granary around that agricultural area. Bedlington Station used to be known as Sleekburn. This 1859 Map enlarged shows Mount Pleasant :-  This 1920 map (not enlarged) shows the Sleekburn area with Mount Pleasant still mentioned :- 1
loopylou Posted October 24, 2024 Author Posted October 24, 2024 (edited) Thank you for the welcome đ I have seen that farm before, didnât know it was called Mount Pleasantâinteresting. If I remember correctly Mount Pleasant Granary appeared in the 1841 census after Sleekburn Grange and that Mount Pleasant Farm. Seems a bit strange for it to have just disappeared! Edited October 24, 2024 by loopylou 1
loopylou Posted October 24, 2024 Author Posted October 24, 2024 I wonder if this âGranary Point Jettyâ was named after Mount Pleasant GranaryâŠ? âthe suggestion was taken up and the rail was completed in 1841, joining the existing wagon way at Bedlington Station, finishing up at Granary Point Jetty, East Sleekburn.â https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Bedlington_Ironworks 1
Alan Edgar (Eggy1948) Posted October 25, 2024 Posted October 25, 2024 16 hours ago, loopylou said: I wonder if this âGranary Point Jettyâ was named after Mount Pleasant GranaryâŠ? âthe suggestion was taken up and the rail was completed in 1841, joining the existing wagon way at Bedlington Station, finishing up at Granary Point Jetty, East Sleekburn.â https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Bedlington_Ironworks Had a look at the small amount of info on the area that I have (Evan Martin booklets) and can't find anything to help you Naturally if anything crops up I will add it to this topic. 1
Alan Edgar (Eggy1948) Posted October 25, 2024 Posted October 25, 2024 @loopylou - had a flick throught a booklet on Sleekburn by Stephen B. Martin (Evan Martin's farther) and there is a short reference in it to Mount Pleasant Farm and the granary gets a mention when it was owned by the Watson family of North Seaton :-  2
Canny lass Posted October 25, 2024 Posted October 25, 2024 The Watsons must have been there for a very long time. Wm. Watson Esq gets a mention on Armstrongs map from 1769. Almost next door to Mount Pleasant farm and granary is a "seat or noted house" with his name on it. (upper edge of map). Â 2
loopylou Posted November 2, 2024 Author Posted November 2, 2024 Thanks for the information, a really interesting read! Glad to now know the proximity of where it was. I was surprised my ancestor was born on a farm given his father was a coal miner and the baptism said âof Bedlington collieryâ. Perhaps they didnât stay long. 1
Canny lass Posted November 2, 2024 Posted November 2, 2024 I can think of a couple of possible reasons for a coal-miner's child being born at the granary. Coal-mining was playing a big part in Bedlingtonâs industry and miners were âimported from many parts of Britain. If you look at the population in 1851 there were almost as many miners from other parts of the country as there were native Bedlingtonians. Housing was at a premium and miners lodged wherever they could get a roof over their head until colliery housing became available. Another explanation for a birth at the granary may be that your relative wasnât born at home. It wasnât uncommon that prima gravidas (first-time mothers) went to the home of a female relative, often their mother, when the birth was imminent. 2
loopylou Posted Sunday at 21:12 Author Posted Sunday at 21:12 (edited) Thank you! (a bit late on the response đ) . I believe the premise of his parents lodging is very likely. It completely missed me, but in 1851 the family was living at âLodging Housesâ in Bedlington (but do not know where these were located).  1861 census shows next on the schedule to Muggerâs Corner a lot of âlicensed lodging housesâ so I wonder if it was here?? Edited Sunday at 21:26 by loopylou Extra info 1
Canny lass Posted Monday at 11:56 Posted Monday at 11:56 (edited) 14 hours ago, loopylou said: I believe the premise of his parents lodging is very likely. It completely missed me, but in 1851 the family was living at âLodging Housesâ in Bedlington (but do not know where these were located).  1861 census shows next on the schedule to Muggerâs Corner a lot of âlicensed lodging housesâ so I wonder if it was here?? Welcome back! You are right when you say that there were lodging houses at the entrance to Muggerâs Neuk in 1861. There were in fact two, but in 1851 these were one larger lodging house. As I mentioned earlier, housing was scarce for the increasing workforce so as well as the lodging house which housed 17 lodgers (and the family of three who ran it), there were a further 60 people lodging in the market place within the homes of various families. However, I donât think your relatives were lodgers of either sort. In 1851 there were no Dixons living in the lodging house or lodging with private families in the area where the lodging house was ie. the market place. If your relative is who I think he is, Charles Dixon with father of the same name and a mother named Dorothy, then he did live in the Market Place just to the left of the Howard Arms when facing that building. Why do I think this? The enumeratorâs route, 1n 1851, went from âthe first house in the corner below the Cross to the last house at the east end of the town on the same sideâ. He then crossed the road and enumerated âthe south side of the town from the first house in the Mill Yard at the east end to the last house in the Half Closes on the same sideâ. There was a general lack of postal addresses in the 1851 census as the postal system hadnât really developed at that time. However, there were schedule numbers for each household in the census documents and certain locations were identifiable by the occupation of the residents â such as âinnkeepersâ and âgrocersâ who usually lived on the premises. Looking at the 1851 census for Bedlington, district 2a (which includes the market place), and following the enumerators route, as he himself describes it above, the first house below the cross has schedule number 1. Successive sch. nrs. are given in sequence to the various households along the route. NB. The sch. nr. applies to a household, NOT a building. There may be several households in one building. Continuing eastwards in the enumeratorâs footsteps from Muggers corner towards Leadgate House (on the corner opposite the Northumberland Arms) you will find at sch. nr 29 an innkeeper with the unusual surname Petrie. Unfortunately, there is no name to the inn. However, if we look up Petrie in the following 1861 census, we can see that he is in the same position and that his business is the Howard Arms. That sorted out we leave sch. Nr 29, the Howard Arms, and get back onto the enumeratorâs route. We donât have to go far to find Charles and Dorothy Dixon together with 5-year-old Charles Dixon and his siblings because he is at sch. nr 31, almost next door to the tavern. At sch. nrs. 30, 31 and 32 are three small households which probably, but not certainly, occupy the small row of buildings which Iâve arrowed blue in the map below. What I can say with certainty is that Charles Dixon lived in one of the buildings - or the buildings in the yards behind them -which Iâve marked in red. Edited Monday at 12:00 by Canny lass 2 1
loopylou Posted 12 hours ago Author Posted 12 hours ago (edited)  On 07/04/2025 at 12:56, Canny lass said:  What I can say with certainty is that Charles Dixon lived in one of the buildings - or the buildings in the yards behind them -which Iâve marked in red. Wow this is some brilliant detective work, thank you very much. đ Never wouldâve thought of using pubs and shops as identifiers, will definitely take this into account for the future. My ancestor is the Charles you mention (3x great grandfather to be specific) after 1851 these Dixonâs tended to switch between Choppington & Bedlington. (Charles parents were buried in Choppington if I recall) but Charles was buried at Netherton Lane. Sadly he did not live very long, he died at Doctor Terrace in 1892 aged 46. Edited 12 hours ago by loopylou 1
Canny lass Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Happy to have been able to help! Pubs, in particular are good markers. The landlords were often there for years so you can go to a later census where more addresses are available and get a better location. Another tip is to always read the enumerator's description of his area. 2
Alan Edgar (Eggy1948) Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago @loopylou compilation of images - Google steet view 2023 - Market Place photo c1930 & @Canny lass's map extractb :-  2
loopylou Posted 8 hours ago Author Posted 8 hours ago (edited) @Alan Edgar (Eggy1948) this is brilliant, thank you đ Edited 8 hours ago by loopylou 1
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