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Update from  @bluebarby :- "I" is the Primitive Methodist Chapel, "F" is the "tin mission" Church of England Chapel, "M" is the flattened remains of Howard Row.

M is the flattened remains of Yard Row, BB. Howard Row, where I was born was on the other side of the railway line as this map from 1947 shows. The methodist chapels, providing the photograph is not dated prior to 1947, were situated to the north and south of First Street as the map also shows. I can't recall there ever having been a chapel opposite the farm. I can't remember there evr being any buildings at all on that road, only 'the store, prior to the three new farm cottages being built in the fifties. Does anybody know when this photo was taken?

I've just enlarged the photo and see clearly that the 'new' farm cottages are visible on the south side of the road so the photo is later than 1950ish. Next to the cottages is the pit canteen and next to that 'the store'. Opposite these must be the pit baths. 

1 hour ago, Canny lass said:

Does anybody know when this photo was taken?

@Canny lass - How about c1968.

Check out this Flickr link that has many Netherton Colliery photos by Billy Embleton - most you will have seen before. In this Flickr collection are some extracts from Steven B Martin's publication of Netherton (Nedderton) published by Evan S B Martin :-

http://flickriver.com/places/United+Kingdom/England/Netherton+Colliery/search/

Can't be 1968. The sepia photo must have been taken before 1962 as the 'new' store (opposite the tute) isn't there. We know it was opened in 1962 (see Bluebarby's info dated 11 May 2016: Topic "the store" Netherton). It can be seen quite clearly in the 1968 photo from Martin's publication.

Here's another photo of Netherton looking from the pit towards the houses. Both the old and the new store are still standing. The old store was later destroyed by fire.

You can clearly see all the buildings along the road between the pit and Fails farm  (where the Building labelled 'I' is situated). They are the same as on the sepia photo.

From right to left: The farm cottages. The canteen, (partly obscured by the pit baths on the other side of the road) and the red brick Co-op store. There are no other buildings on that road throughout my lifetime.

This is quite a late photo as Clifton Row has been demolished. The two methodist chapels, though no longer in use as houses of worship can also be seen at either end of First Street.

Apologies to the owner of this photo. I'm afraid I can't give any credit as I haven't noted your name, though I think it may be my good friend Philip Hodgett.

Canny Lass my father Henry Lucas was also born at either No1 or 7 Howard Row in 1920. Are there any photos of these houses and what happened to them ?

@Paul Lucas - I had never seen an image of Howard row posted on this site or any of the local Facebook groups.  There are two albums in the Gallery on Netherton/Nedderton. Yesterday Malcolm Davison, Facebook group Bygone Bedlington, posted a photo of his grandmother outside Howard row in 1913. I have added his photo to the Gallery album - 'Netherton/Nedderton old photos 2'

Eggy1948 thank you !

@Paul Lucas - Malcolm Davidson  that posted the photo has commented :- 'No 1 Howard Row was occupied by my uncle and family, Robert and Jane Gair this was early 1900s their son Oswald was a pony driver underground in the pit. '

Doesn't prove who lived at No 1 in 1920 but as most colliery workers stayed in the same colliery house whilst they worked at the colliery more chance that your relatives lived in No 7.

On 09/03/2020 at 18:46, Paul Lucas said:

Canny Lass my father Henry Lucas was also born at either No1 or 7 Howard Row in 1920. Are there any photos of these houses and what happened to them ?

 

Hello Paul! Welcome to the forum. Look at the 1947 map which I posted above a couple of years ago. Howard Row was built in two blocks, with several years inbetween. The first block, the oldest of the Howard pit houses, is nearest the pit head and is where your father was born at nr.7 The numbers ran from 1-22 starting at the pit and going towards the social club. Your family may have lived there quite a while as there is a Lucas family at that address in 1911.

I was born in 1947 at the other end of the street but have no memory of how it was because the family was möved to alternative accommodation shortly afterwards so that the houses could be demolished. I know, that at 3 yo I was still living the alternaive accommodation but the family must have returned to the newer  colliery houses shortly after, because I started school at Netherton Infants at the age of 4½ in 1951. We lived then in Third Street. 

By then Howard Row and Yard Row no longer  existed.They then seem to have been demolished a few years as the sites were overgrown with grass and bushes - a favourite playground area! The sites of the two blocks of Howard Row  can be clearly seen in the ariel photo running north from the letter M up to the pit.

 Howard Row, nrs 1-22  were the smallest of the colliery houses with only two rooms. Yard Row consisted also of two rooms . The odd house had three rooms but this was because the residents built make-shift lean-toos over the outer areas However, the second block of Howard Row, nearest the  social club was built with three rooms. Residents, even here increased some houses to four rooms using the same ingenuity as in Yard Row. As I said previously, I never saw these houses so yhe information I can offer is only what I've heard from older family members about living conditions in Howard Row.(my oldest siste was 20 years older than me).

In his book on Netherton, Evan Martin shares this photo of Howard Row, presumably the gap between the two blooks.

In the gallery you can find this photo which is reportedly of Clifton Row. I played with school friend in Clifton Row and can't remember it being as delapidated as this. Clifton Row was the newer, more modern of the pit rows before First-Third Street were built. I think this is Yard Row or even Howard Row. Both rows were built to the same plan I believe.

Canny Lass thank you. This is fascinating for me to see the struggle it must have been to have 10/11 people living in 2 rooms and working the pit. How do I find out the names of the Lucas family living there in 1911 ?

Paul, I'll send you a personal message.

1 hour ago, Canny lass said:

Paul, I'll send you a personal message.

My hero

I have just joined your page, after being directed here, by a kind soul on FB Ancestry page.
My Father was baptised in the Netherton Church Mission, in 1919, according to his baptism certificate. I have just ordered his birth certificate, so hoping it contains an address.
His Father was a miner at the time. The family name was Harrod.
I am going to be in Blyth in June and am hoping to visit some of the places I have come across, whilst researching my ancestors.
This page is great!
 

3 hours ago, Sheila Prouten said:

I have just joined your page, after being directed here, by a kind soul on FB Ancestry page.
My Father was baptised in the Netherton Church Mission, in 1919, according to his baptism certificate. I have just ordered his birth certificate, so hoping it contains an address.
His Father was a miner at the time. The family name was Harrod.
I am going to be in Blyth in June and am hoping to visit some of the places I have come across, whilst researching my ancestors.
This page is great!
 

Welcome to the group Sheila. There are a couple of albums with the Gallery on Nedderton & Netherton Colliery. Just noticed your comment within this album but if you create a new topic under the History Hollow section of the Discussion page we should be able to add some info specific to any questions you ask. 

Thank you.

Hi Sheila, welcome to the forum!

I'm afraid Netherton Colliery is long gone, but I can point out the 'mission' where your father was baptised. It was still active during my early childhood but later became a garage/workshop for a small haulage business. It was located next door to the school and labelled 'Mission Room' on this 1921 map.

It can also be seen in this aerial view (though now in use as a haulage yard). It's the light coloured building at right angles to the houses with the school on its left.

2 hours ago, Canny lass said:

Hi Sheila, welcome to the forum!

I'm afraid Netherton Colliery is long gone, but I can point out the 'mission' where your father was baptised. It was still active during my early childhood but later became a garage/workshop for a small haulage business. It was located next door to the school and labelled 'Mission Room' on this 1921 map.

It can also be seen in this aerial view (though now in use as a haulage yard). It's the light coloured building at right angles to the houses with the school on its left.

 

 

Thank you for the information. I'm waiting for a copy of my Father's birth cert' to arrive. Then I will know if he was born in Netherton, or just baptised there.