HPW, Don't worry about getting it wrong or whatever we can still have a mature discussion. You are not saying anything 90% of the population don't say and believe. The problem for me is that there is plenty of properly apportioned blame to go around councils for stuff they have and are doing, so much in fact no wonder it's a popular myth they are to blame for everything! If only we could hold people to account for past indiscretions, I am afraid that's a privilege only us the proletariat are allowed to endure! You know the people of Bedlington chipped in once before to buy a monument, its standing at the Top End next to the roundabout, and they had nowt by comparison (certainly a far as disposable incomes go) in those days.