What really rankled me about the Thatcher privatisation run out was the way that the industries were privatised with basically the same management teams in place and whereas beforehand they were making losses as nationalised industries almost overnight they became huge money/profit generating machines. Why couldn't they have done that for us? Now most are controlled by foreign entities, not a very good or secure place to be with your indigenous power/water/communications/etc. industries. Gordo was just a bumpkin, not a good Chancellor and a hopeless Premier but then he was a product of our political system, as was Mr Blair. As is the current crop of ne'er-do-wells! Nigel looks appealing to some because he looks to be different or at least possess a set of Maracas! Or in Boris's case provides entertainment! The whole economic 'ideological verses proven practical' argument is futile because it's the politicians who control the system. (Or who are supposed to!) We can see the excellent example just over the water where a political ideal was put in first, followed by all practical economic/financial elements. That's the wrong way around and that's why the Euro will fail. Nothing wrong with a Euro project but that has to lead and dictate the 'political make up' where it's used. I too think we should be looking at the Mutual models for a whole raft of uses.