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Famous Bedlingtonshire People
HIGH PIT WILMA replied to johndawsonjune1955's topic in History Hollow
Noo!.........Wat aboot Mr Joseph Riley,an old friend and pit-marra of mine,of very long-standing,who was recently in the news when he received his Medal from the French Government. He still goes over to Normandy every year to take part in the D-Day Landings Memorial services...at 92 yrs old.! We owe our Independance as a free country to Joe and all his comrades across all the forces! No plaques yet,but a bet in time there will be![and rightly so!] -
Famous Bedlingtonshire People
HIGH PIT WILMA replied to johndawsonjune1955's topic in History Hollow
John was brought up in East Terrace,Stakeford,or,as it was called in thi aad days..."Thi Bomar"...[Bomarsund colliery village...colliery owned terraces]. I lived in West Terrace from 1970-2001,.....31 years,and I nivvor,ivvor.....knew owt aboot fitba',but aa cud see hoo clivvor this nine year aad kid was when he went up ti the store,for he's Mother's messages,,[shopping!],cos he used ti heed thi baal aal thi way up thi street,from one high waal ti thi other,side ti side,as weel as playing keepy-up withoot dropping thi baal at aal! He's Dad worked at thi pit,as did he's uncle Jimmy,who was a Deputy at Ashington pit till it closed in 1987.[he was in charge of me and me marra's at times...........] John's Parents were the loveliest folk on this planet,as was John,he'sel' a smashing natured kid. Nivvor seen him for years,what's he daeing noo?....Managing or Coaching?........ Oh,and can anybody tell me wat the original shop-owner's nyem waas,afore it became "Fullarton's"?[in the 1950's?] -
Famous Bedlingtonshire People
HIGH PIT WILMA replied to johndawsonjune1955's topic in History Hollow
Brian o' Neill,[or "Bon"...to his friends],went to the catholic shool at Bedlington top-end,along with a few of my Friends,and also with my Wife.[when she was young!] His Parents lived opposite my Mother in Law down at Grange Park from the Park being built. When he made the grade,he came up north to see his folks,and brought oot aal thi nybors,ti see he's brand new Jag saloon! THIS was an occasion!,seeing as the average car in the street,of which there were only a half dozen,were Ford Populars,[circa 1958-ish....],a Hillman Minx,a Ford Anglia 105E.......!..etc. He played in the school team alang wi me aad long lost Marra,["welsh-connect" on this forum],and my marra used ti be aalwis on aboot hoo gud Bon was! Are yi in theor Welshie?!! -
Hi all! Been trying ti write a bit more of me story in ink,but a bad time over thi festive season! Got a press cutting from me Son's paper..[the Independent...a think....],aboot Kellingly Colliery closing. A brilliantly sympathetic [to thi miners] article,well written,but required a correction or two...[nit-picking..!] It said that Kellingly was the biggest colliery in England at one time,with 3000 miners employed. Truth is,that Ashington Colliery was the biggest pit in thi WORLD with over 5000 miners employed,at one time. James,Northumberland mining history tells us there were 76 pits in our County,before Nationalisation....not nit-picking,only for correctness! I would suggest,only my own opinion here mind,that greedy coal owners had small drift mines producing coal,"on the quiet",[Fiddling..in other words!],to add to the production of the bigger pits to boost their output artificially,as part of the Power-game.[more profits on sales..less taxes paid on assets un-declared...]..so in reality,there was probably even more pits than were officially recorded! Am I taaking stupid here,it was just a thowt,cos a was thinking aboot Barmoor...who would have thowt aboot sinking such a smaal pit in such a daft place,when not many folk even knew or heard of the pit when a was young![...not so daft on second thowts,like Choppington High Pit,THAT was a tettie pit,hiddened owa the fields oot o' sight of the public eye,and aal it's workng life,remained the same aad corrugated rusty,faalin ti bits,hell-hole-of-a-place,where thi word "Investment",or "modernisation" still hadn't found it!!].....while Choppington "A" pit,near ti thi main road,in view of the general public,was,like most other pits situated in the village centres,brick-built,well constructed,well-ventilated [regarding mine-gases],and,better investment spent...consequently a better safety record...[thi high pit was atrocious on safety!] Mebbe a glaaky suggestion,but summick ti think aboot,seeing that even in modern times,people in high places claimed compen. for hooses they didn't have,or maintenance costs for cleaning oot their castle-moats....etc....etc,so why not a bit of fiddle with getting some easy coal from a drift here and there!
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Hi all! I'm BACK,but it's 2-0 am,and I dinna waant ti start gettin wound up,or ye'll aal get sick o' me,and daylight will come,and aal be nackered,so aam gaana resist,and close doon and say gudneet!!! .........but tha's anotha day waitin.....! Happy New Year ti aal wa marra's on this brilliant forum!
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Brilliant bit o' research Steve! Seems ti put that one ti bed fo gud!!
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Welshie!!,are yi in there?,howweh,tell ya stories aboot thi 'chute! Oh,a just thowt,me otha young mate used ti tek me up wen thi bird shows were on,and aa wudda ownly been aboot 11yrs aad then.[1954-5..ish] A can mind seein millions of cages lined up,and stacked on top of each utha,wi gowldies,greenies,canaries,budgies,and aal sorts of utha bords aal chirpin and cheepin tha little hearts oot. A used ti wunda hoo anybody cud judge the contest,and pick a winner,cos they were aal beautiful little wee'uns,in my eyes! Can anybody mind o' the bord shows? Wud it be allowed nooadays wi H n S ..?
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Heh heh! Teks me back ti wen a wus a skittering yung ched wi a snotty beak! Me best mate,[who aav just gettn bak in touch with after 50 years exile in S.Wales.....through this forum!!],who is Welshconnect,tuk me up ti thi "Chute",one day,when we were aboot 14 yrs aad,cos he was gaana hae a game o' billiards. Whey aa waasn't interessent in owt like that or sports of any kind! Aa just waanted ti clart on wi electricity...and transformers...mekkin high voltage carbon arc devices,and clartin aboot wi aad wirelesses..[pre-war monsters they were!] So,anywheh,we went up ti thi 'chute,[which completely baffled me cos aa thowt a chute was waat they teemed coal doal doon,inti thi ships at thi blyth docks!!] Jim paid for a game o' billiards,and gie me a bent bit o' dowellin,queer-shaped,wi a felt tip,and a little cube o' blue chaak. He telt 'is ti rub thi chaak owa thi tip of thi stick,and gie him thi chaak afta aa was dyun.....which aa did.....[sumwat bemused,and a thowt he was windin' me aboot thi chaak!] He tuk forst shot,hit a baal,and sed it was my torn. So,aa tuk a shot and did an Inspector Clouseau on thi luvly green material on thi tyeble......whey ,nearly,but didn't rip it....mind not far away! Jim was laffin he's heed off at me antics,cos it ownly med me mair narvis aboot rippin' it on ivry shot a tuk! A sed Jim,aal stick ti fiddling aboot wi rectifier valves and double-diodes....and thi like!! Efta that,a used ti just waatch him and he's otha mates playin,and just cudn't see thi point in this queer "game"!! Naa,aam not a sporty porsin at aal,guitars motorbikes,and me wee black Jess,are my kind of sanity-savers!....oh!,and Percy,me tame[?!!!!],disabled Herring gull! Been wi me and me family fo' three years noo,since just oot thi nest,moulted three years,and noo a fine young whipper-snapper..comical ti watch at close-quarters,like when yi hing thi weshin' oot on thi line,and he needs he's bait,an he cums aback o' yi n tries ti pull ya shoe off from behind,or yanks at ya jeans again from ahent yi,ti let yi knaa he's hungry!! Aye, a must be crackers! ..........gaanain off-topic again Wilma!!!!!!
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Sym...the Euclids were huge at the time,but were only 25 and 30-tonners![compared ti the 350-tonners we have noo!] Kieth....Barmoor was only a wee tiny landsale pit,where they sold the coal,stone,AND the water!! The water was rich in Barium and went for Barium extraction to supply Hospitals for Barium meals for X-rays The pit was set in a dip,the Manager of Choppington High Pit,was also Manager of Barmoor. Sometimes we at High pit were short of timber or Arched girders due to roads and railways being closed with heavy snow and ice,and our lads had to go up and bring stuff like that down from Barmoor to keep our pit going....![one tetty-pit tekkin' off anotha tetty-pit!!] The black bridge up the Choppington fields would be a good contender for the pic puzzle.seeing as the Dr pit chimney was about 180 feet high,and you can see all the terraces,right to thi gable ends,and thi high ground to thi right looks like the top-end of Bedlington. The River Blyth Bailey bridge AND the Bedlington Bank one also,were built around 1954,-ish [give or take a few years!] When I was aboot ten or eleven years old,me and my school friends used to gaan doon ti watch aal thi activity as they were buiding them from the concrete foondations up-owa. Often we watched as greet lang lengths of Greenheart timber were HAND-SAWN by four men,using a long straight double-handled saw. There were two men at each end holding the saw,and it used to take an age to cut through the timber which was aboot two-foot square,and so dense that pieces that were sawn off,like aboot 18 inches lang,say,just sank ti thi bottom of thi river! When we tried ti lift bits of off-cuts,just messing aboot,as yi dae when ya a kid,we cudn't mark them!! It was exciting for us watching under floodlights,at night,[dark at 4-0-clock in thi winter neets,],as we used ti creep ever closer ti watch them. Costain paid for the road from the Acorn Bank opencast mine,over these bridges,across the fields,to Bebside pit,to be handled there. One afternoon,we heard a rumble,as we were walking doon Bedlington Bank,on our way ti the woods,and when we looked over to the new stretch of road which had been completed,up to the road bridge,we watched a bulldozer coming down the new road,tumbling two anti-tank concrete blocks in front of him,like tumbling two smaal dice!!...we weren't half amazed to see this display of raw power!! The 42-ton Coal-haulers used make the river bridge bounce up and down crazily,as they went over every 15 minutes! Noo!,when we were kids,it appeared as if there were a fleet of coal-haulers,as there was Euclids! But an excellent short DVD which Six-Townships put out,[which was rescued from a discarded old VHS tape in a skip!!],showed there were only four tractors,and eight hoppers,which were being loaded every 15 minutes. Four hoppers were in transit at any one time,whilst the other four were being loaded.This meant that a hauler was passing over the bridge every 15 mins,albeit in different directions. We used ti cadge rides in thi Euclids from the road bridge area,reet owa ti thi Bebside pit and back!,it was exciting,seeing as we never experienced anything other than a bus-ride sitting aside wa mutha's! We were amused ti see the four supporting pillars of thi road bridge being constructed by stacking huge concrete drain sections,[aboot four feet wide] on top of each other,then filling them with concrete and re-inforcing rods....[the term "RE-BAR" wasn't coined in them days!]. It was quick,and efficient,but we thought they would crack open like nuts when heavy trucks went owa them!![THAT'S hoo aa went doon thi pit!!] Thi ONE thing that dismayed aal us kids,[hard-up kids!],was that they created the cut for thi new road straight through the best blackberry plantation in thi Coonty!!... That's where we got a bit pocket money,pickin' blackies,and sellin' them aroond thi doors. Vic,ask thi boss if she remembers us daeing that,cos almost aal the neighbours used ti clamour for thim....it was a case of filling two big Ostermilk tins,away up Bedltn Bank,roond thi doors,Sowld,away back doon thi bank,repeat thi process till wa fingers ached!![thruppence a pund in aad munney!!] Sorry....I digressed in a most un-protocollitically way......!
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Heh heh! ......Thompson's Stores brings back memories! Me Mutha used ti waak me poor little legs off,from Storey's Buildings,on thi Willow Bridge,at Choppington,aal thi way up ti thi top-end of Bedlington,ti get shopping,spend her stamps,and get me tackety byeuts,[ minaiture pit byeuts wi steel heel and toe- plates,and studs...not Segs...studs!]. Aa was two ti three years aad,in 1946-7-8 ish,gaanin on four,before we shifted ti thi posh cooncil hooses wi inside netties and proppa baths,knaan as Hollymoont Square,in Bedlington.[the word "Estate" hadn't been coined ti designate thi post-war building program,they were knaan as "The new cooncil hooses" !] Thi forst time a went ti Beamish Museum,wi me Wife,forra day oot,as was chuffed ti see the different sizes of "Tackety Byeuts" hingin' up aback a thi coonta!!,in thi hardware shop,alang wi filler's and shifter's shuul's![a "shifter" was generally a stoneman doon thi pit..not necessarilly a caunch-man!]. Reet doon ti thi smaa size aa wudda worn,alang wi aal thi otha poor kids hoo didn't hae any shoes..! Us kids used ti play in the hooses owa from the picture-haal,next ti thi Tanky,when they were being pulled doon,after waatchin' Tarzan swingin aboot in thi jungle,avoiding spears being hoyed at 'im,and we used ti mek spears oot o' thi wood dowelling which was used for corner-beading on thi internal waals,in them days.[little things aalwis pleased little minds!] We hoyed them aroond at each utha,and a divvent knaa enybody ,yit, hoo ivvor got speared or hurt in eny way during wor tarzan antics....![H n S....? !]
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Somehoo it posted twice...bloody talktalk router freezing and me having ti switch it off and back on again manually...so a deleted aal thi txt on the duplicate post,and it said "you must enter a post".....so this is it.....!!
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Noo,Jim,aav mailed ye,Private Messaged ye,and nae reply....! Is talktalk being the aakward sods like they have done [deniably from thier end!],with me? Ever since I refused to go onto thier new fibre optic broadband tariff,my computer has slowed down immensely,and it happened just after I had two phone calls a fortnight apart,trying to persuade me change from the old tariff I have been on since they started! This,by the way,was a couple of years ago,nowt ti dae wi thi Cyber attack,and resulting phone calls we got. So Welshie,a can understand if ye are hevvin botha,aal just be patient.........and if ye divvent come back...aal put ya nyem in thi windae!
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Heh heh! Margaret,I have found you! Margyjane,come in please!....you have a caller waiting!!!! P.S.check out Tonyp's gallery...re Frank and Peg Heron. Thanks Tony!..I got there and checked it out. The internet is great! I am finding old friends all over the place!
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My grandparents & great aunt & uncle in the1920's
HIGH PIT WILMA commented on Tonyp's gallery image in People and Events Gallery
Well,Margaret,isn't the internet a smashing thing ti hev....espeshully for bringing aad friends tigitha!! Can ye mind Mrs Allison across the road from Auntie Peg's?[No 13 Hollymount]..a mean directly opposite? She had four of a family when you were nine,and five by the time you/we were 10 years old. I am Billy,the youngest of the original four! My younger sister was born when we were 10 yrs,in 1954?[correct me please!] On my class 2 photo,taken at the Bedlington village infants school,I have named most of the 43 pupils,starting with myself at the very top left of the back row,all smiling with my little dimple - cheeks! Now,unless my memory is,for once,letting me down,I have you marked also sitting cutely, smiling, with your little shoulder bag on.! How I have the photo,is because one of our friends who is on the photo,standing next to me,a lad called Jim Hardy,sent the photo into the "LEADER" free press , a few years ago,so I cut it out and kept it for posterity.[never thinking that some day we would all have computers...!] I am trying to find out how to post it on here!! Lovely to hear from you Margaret,Hubby wouldn't be Tommy would he? [Another friend from around the corner at Hollymount!] Cheers Margaret! Billy. P.S. thanks to Tonyp for alerting me to your posting!! -
Auntie Dora's wedding
HIGH PIT WILMA commented on Tonyp's gallery image in People and Events Gallery
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Margaret.....!!...Margaret.....!!!!!!!!....are you there!
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Hi Tony,thanks for confirming my memory is still there! On my class photo,[when we were 6 yrs old],I am sure I have marked Margaret in correctly,she was such a bonny,unforgettable little lassie. I still haven't found out how to post a pic on here yet,when I do,I will post the class 2 pic of all 43 pupils ! Cheers Marra!
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Foxy,thanks for posting Frankie,rare for him not to have seen the camera,and be waving like hell ti the cameram....er.....camera-person...[PC!!] Aav got vivid memories of him riding aroond the corner in Hollymoont Square,and up his garden path,on he's motor bike,Jacket flying open in the wind...as we aal did in them days...nae helmets...nae gloves...!![used ti dae a "Saint",after dismounting,straighten his jacket and swish back he's buttered hair!... ...lukkin' like he had just waaked yem from thi dance!] He was a great character,was canny young Frankie Heron.
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Spot on Sym! The word was PRIDE! Pitmen's wives had it rough and tough,wi poss-tubs,seeking waata from thi tap at thi end of thi street,etc,boiling terry towelling nappies by the dozen, but they kept the house spick and span,wi cloods of smoke aal aroond from millions of smoky chimley-pots...[spell-ckecker disnae work on Wilma's posts!!..it crashes!!] A can mind a fella who aalwis went up thi street,wi his jacket sleeve smartly folded and tucked,and pinned up,and aa was just a bairn,but a can mind the fella,clear as day![it might not have been your Uncle,cos there were a few miners in my locality with one arm.] A fella who lived across from us at Hollymount Square,only had one arm,and he wore a hook attached to his bad arm stub-end. He had one of the best gardens in the square,he used to put the spade shank in the hook,and turn the spade with his good hand...THAT was spirit! Then old Bob Reed,he was the Co-op dairyman,he had his arm off at the shoulder and he drove his little store van aal owa Bedltn ,delivering milk,for donkey's years![he used to throw the old wooden crates with 20 bottles of milk in,like they were cardboard boxes!!...stacking them in the dairy,loading his van etc! Another neighbour on the corner of the square had a nasty accident at the Doctor pit,when his arm got pulled into the conveyor belt rollers,and literally pulled his arm out of its socket. It was amazing to see people like this recover and just get on with life......no phone calls to "No-win....no-fee"! There was also a fella,[an old coal-cutterman],who used to hobble up the street to the club,on old-fashioned heavy wooden crutches,with one leg. This sort of sight was common in those days,when the mining industry was still hand filling,cutting etc.
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For all the fact that I was nearly top for English all the way through school from starting,and used to write ten-or-twelve page essays,[won a book prize for an essay when I was aboot 11yrs old],my sticky point was ,and still is,"Thiers",and "Teusday"!....and even writing it noo,aam wondering if they are right or wrong......even though I can spell Antidisestablishmentarianism....off the cuff,verbally at any given moment,and other long words similar to that...... ......such as the one Mr Davidson,my teacher at the Whitley School,learnt us....[don't ask me why!!]...... ......."Reichprotektorstellvertrettorschultzstaffeloburstgruppenfuhrer".....!!..... Five stars for the person who gives me the ONE-WORD answer!![HAS to be the word that Mr Davidson learnt us..he was our social studies teacher,as well as English,and art and crafts.....and......! [yep,they had to be multi-talented in those days!] Vic,ask the Boss if she can mind o' this one! How do I remember this trivial information?,from the age of aboot 11yrs old?....even beats me sumtimes,seeing as a canna mind what the weather was like yistidi,or what a did!
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Tony,you got me thinking here noo! You mentioned Margaret,your Brother......Typo? A bonny young lassie called Margaret used to come to see Mr and Mrs Heron,and she started the Bedlington village infants school,[which is now dilapidated!..opposite St Cuthbert's Church..],the same time as when I did,and was in my class. This would have been 1949.,and her surname then was Thackeray....is She any relation,and if so,would you know if she is still alive? We all played together in our street,laddie's and lassie's!....skippy,bays,tennis,rounders,kicky-baal,cricket,[as we got older],cannon,tiggy-in-thi-bay.. ...hidey-seek....crusts -and-crumbs..... I was gonna post a press cutting from the "Leader",[from a few years back],of our School class 2 at the village infants,[aged 6 yrs old],but don't know how to!! [Margaret is on the pic..she was always a lovely natured lassie!]
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Hi Tony! Frankie Heron,and he's Brother Jackie,lived with their Parents,directly opposite my Family home in Hollymount Square,in Bedlington,from the first dozen houses built not long after the war.[somewhere around 1947-8 ish] They were two big smart fella's,Frankie being the extrovert,always shouting over a loud hello to my family,out in the street,taking photo's of life in the street,all of the bairns playing,sitting us on the wall for group shots,etc. I have got Frankie to thank forever,for taking the only shot in existence of my little Spaniel/lakeland terrier dog,sitting on the wall, like an ornament,posing for him! I would have been roughly 12 yrs old,and my little dog got killed on the road beside the "store"..[Co-op],by a speeding opencast coal lorry,not long after the pic was taken. This would have been about 1956,when Bedlington suddenly went from being a quiet,traffic-free road,[the main street],to Tulip's coal lorries thundering down the street overladen with coal,speeding down Bedlington bank,spewing smoke-screens of exhaust fumes,on the way to Bebside Pit to be unloaded at the washery plant. Jackie was very reserved,but still very sociable,in a more quieter way. Old..[to us kids!] Mr and Mrs Heron,were a lovely couple,and Mrs Heron and My Mother were very close friends for years. Frankie had the nickname of "Spanky",at the Doctor Pit,probably cos when he went out,he always went dressed to the knocker,immaculate,his ginger top always vaselined doon!! When we talk aboot thi gud aad days,THEY WERE gud aad days,in a proper aad-fashioned pit community. Thinking back,a suppose everybody got dressed in "Sunday best",when they went anywhere special,cos most folks had nowt except work clothes, and "best" clothes.....nae big wardrobes full of designer-wear in them days! Sorry to hear of Frankie's passing ,Tony,thanks for the info. R.I.P. Frankie.
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Hoo did that happen?..aam taakin dubble.......!
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Aye,keefy,aa startid theor as weel,in 1949,but it had been modanised...oot went thi slate an' chaak,an' in cyem proppa pelcins..! Missus Oliver waas me heedmistress,a luvly aad lady,and Missus Smith waas me teacha,luvly an' aal. Life waas simpil in them days,wi larn't ti coont wi bonny-colaad roond carbord coonta's like big widdly-tinks..! Missus Smith used ti tek wi doon ti thi scyuul plaa-in field where thon vicar's hoose is,doon chorch-lane,and aa spent menny a happy oor cowpin me creels an plaain rowly-powly doon thi slowpy-bit ahint the graveyard waal..... Utha happy times waas plaa-in in thi aad wartime air-raid sheltaas in thi corna uv thi scyuul-yard!![waasint alloo'd mind,but wi wur just bairns!] Nivva did me nae harm,aa still groo up ti be an illtenigelt yung bugga,who knew nowt aboot futbaal,aa sporrt,but knew hoo ti calculate the resistance[R] of a theoretical circuit,given the potential [E] and the current ,using Ohm's Law,and understood the theory and practical applications of Magnetism,and Electronics,using Thermionic Valves,[before Transistors and Micro-chips were born!!] Winding coils of wire and building electric motors was aad hat n kids stuff when a waas 12 yeors aad! Aye,thi aad scyuul shudda been presarved,eevin if sum bugga had med a hoose oot o it,like yon chorch doon aside the Forresstaas pub doon Sleekborn...... Noo,if aa had been brainy,ind gud it sums,a might a been a brain sorjin,and bowt it mesel....but a went doon thi black hole.......!! Eggy,that's the stupidity of the "English" language,I does gaa before E,except in Keith,Leith , etc Noo in PROPPA langwidge,like Bedlt'ntonian,it meks nae diffrence,cos ivry bugga knaas wat ya taakin aboot ennyhoo,cos they aal taak thi syem......er......a mean,they USED TI TAAK AAL THI SYEM,afore aal thi posh fowks came in wi tha funny way o taakin......and noo we are aal dyin oot....!
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Aye,keefy,aa startid theor as weel,in 1949,but it had been modanised...oot went thi slate an' chaak,an' in cyem proppa pelcins..! Missus Oliver waas me heedmistress,a luvly aad lady,and Missus Smith waas me teacha,luvly an' aal. Life waas simpil in them days,wi larn't ti coont wi bonny-colaad roond carbord coonta's like big widdly-tinks..! Missus Smith used ti tek wi doon ti thi scyuul plaa-in field where thon vicar's hoose is,doon chorch-lane,and aa spent menny a happy oor cowpin me creels an plaain rowly-powly doon thi slowpy-bit ahint the graveyard waal..... Utha happy times waas plaa-in in thi aad wartime air-raid sheltaas in thi corna uv thi scyuul-yard!![waasint alloo'd mind,but wi wur just bairns!] Nivva did me nae harm,aa still groo up ti be an illtenigelt yung bugga,who knew nowt aboot futbaal,aa sporrt,but knew hoo ti calculate the resistance[R] of a theoretical circuit,given the potential [E] and the current ,using Ohm's Law,and understood the theory and practical applications of Magnetism,and Electronics,using Thermionic Valves,[before Transistors and Micro-chips were born!!] Winding coils of wire and building electric motors was aad hat n kids stuff when a waas 12 yeors aad! Aye,thi aad scyuul shudda been presarved,eevin if sum bugga had med a hoose oot o it,like yon chorch doon aside the Forresstaas pub doon Sleekborn...... Noo,if aa had been brainy,ind gud it sums,a might a been a brain sorjin,and bowt it mesel....but a went doon thi black hole.......!! Eggy,that's the stupidity of the "English" language,I does gaa before E,except in Keith,Leith , etc Noo in PROPPA langwidge,like Bedlt'ntonian,it meks nae diffrence,cos ivry bugga knaas wat ya taakin aboot ennyhoo,cos they aal taak thi syem......er......a mean,they USED TI TAAK AAL THI SYEM,afore aal thi posh fowks came in wi tha funny way o taakin......and noo we are aal dyin oot....!