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Bedlington Man Plays for Manchester United
Vickkie Blake replied to Rigger's topic in History Hollow
Billy Mcglen was my Grandad. I often (on what would have been his birthday) Google his name. This year I came across your post. It's nice to think he is so well remembered. -
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Well! That was a nice little wander around a place I love, and looking so much better than it's ever done before. Thank you Malcolm for all your hard work.
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Seems this stuff caused quite a commotion after I said this was some of the stuff I've been doing over the last few years Then being told I was dreaming...............
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Seems everyday there is a different attack..........and I am not attacking any other candidates but I am going to defend myself! I donât normally respond to overtly âaggressiveâ posts, thatâs a one way route, but somehow Iâm being accused of âhidingâ something about this Members Local Improvement Scheme funding? Not quite sure how seeing as I posted the FULL details of the scheme three weeks ago on 1st April on this page, a page thatâs open to public access. I do try and keep my residents informed! So the funding is there, the list of things Iâve supported with it is there along with the costings. Even the cancelled projects are listed so Iâm not quite sure whatâs been hidden? Members get an allowance of up to ÂŁ15K PA to âspendâ on small projects in their wards. I make sure every penny of mine is spent in the ward or very close to it, if there are things which benefit my residents. Just some very recent examples: First the small path I had been asked to get done opposite Hartford Hall. I had it priced up off NCC and it came back at over ÂŁ30K. I put in the last of my MLIS funding, just over ÂŁ10K, and Christine, Bedlington Central, agreed to put in ÂŁ4K to make it happen. So for the ÂŁ10K in my pot we got over ÂŁ30kâs worth of work done. Second one, the QE11 Memorial Path and Garden of Remembrance at West Lea Cemetery. We werenât getting anything so I badgered the Leader of NCC until he told me to design a scheme and they would consider it for funding out of the QE11 funding NCC had already agreed. I did and eventually got ÂŁ24K out of them. Along with ÂŁ1K donation from the Friends of West Lea Cemetery group I put in the rest out of this MLIS funding. So we got over ÂŁ50Ks worth of work done there. Iâve also put in ÂŁ5K into the cafĂ© and toilets upgrades at Plessey Woods which is costing about ÂŁ300K! So nothing hidden itâs all there in black and white but given the associated funding it unlocks Iâm happy to use it for projects which can be ramped up with clear community benefits, some smaller projects like dropped kerbs and bollards to larger projects like the QE11 stuff. Even sharing costs with neighbouring ward councillors on projects with joint benefits makes sense to me.
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Like I said it getting unbelievable out there............ Well it seems the Labour candidate is now going around telling people I canât get anything done because Iâm not at the âTop Tableâ because Iâm not in the Labour party. Iâm wondering which âTop Tableâ that might be? Might be the MPâs âTop Tableâ, or the North East Mayorâs âTop Tableâ or even the Crime and Police Commissioners âTop Tableâ? These are ALL positions which once elected should be âAâ Political and not be used to gain influence and promote individual devotees. They are supposed to be there to serve their respective communities in their positions without favour! Just goes to show the âlocked doors and smoke filled roomsâ are very much still in play even today. And we thought we had seen the last of that sort of thing! Absolutely shocking but from a party thatâs reneged on its promises to our elderly population, WASPI women, farmers, veterans and the sick and disabled, etc., etc. and seems intent on taxing us more and more so it can fritter cash away on building the PMâs international reputation, Iâm not too sure its unexpected!
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Info on the Durham Mining Museum site is :- First shaft was sunk 14th July 1854 Colliery opened in 1855 Colliery closed 2nd March 1968 -
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I donât know if you still need this info @Canny lass but thought it may be useful in the genealogy regards. I briefly remember him myself but I was very little (4-5?) when I visited in the Hartlands. His first name was George and he was the son of Christopher (Kit) McGregor and Elizabeth (Lizzie) Tweddle. Lizzie was the daughter of George & Grace Tweddle. Both Kit and Lizzie lived at 9 Craggâs Buildings in 1921âKit being a boarder. Geordie was born on 18 July 1923 at Craigs Buildings. His parents at the time lived at Liddleâs Yard. By 1939 him and his parents lived at Yard Row. They then moved to the Hartlands. His grandmother Grace died at 101 Hartlands in 1957. Geordie died in Sep 2008, there is a headstone in Netherton Lane Cemetery. Iâm not sure about Kit and Lizzie, though. His uncle (George Tweddle) has a headstone at Netherton and is buried with Grace Tweddle.
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@Canny lass I wonder if there was one family/household per room at that time, hence the ability to squeeze nine families in there. Agreed about Millfield Cottages, thereâs no glaringly obvious of the name connecting to the buildings (Craggs & Clarkâs being previous landlords), and certainly could be that they were properties further down Puddlers Road. The Brewers Cottage is quite interesting, there was mention of Henry Clark owning/managing a brewery at Bedlington Iron Works, so they could be connected. Iâm starting my way through the Puddlerâs Raa thread, what an interesting read đ Directly from a family member of mine (whose siblings were born in Craggs recalls going to an aunts house in the 1950s, says the cottage (most likely #3) was nearer to the Bank Top Hotel and remembers that it had two rooms. Thinks the remaining properties were demolished in the 50s too.
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@loopylou I can certainly agree that Clarkes Cottages and the Craigs Bldgs adjoining the Puddler's Arms are one and the same thing. My only reservation is that the 4 dwellings of Craigs Bldgs have become 9 dwellings in Clarkes Cottages - but it is possible. However, I'd be hesitant to say that Millfield Cottages are the same thing as the flats in Craigs Bldgs. It seems like an odd thing to call a flat a cottage. It needs some more work. If we get a bit of rainy weather this week I'll have another look at the area. Have you read any of the posts in the topic "Puddlers Raa (Row)"? There's some interesting info from people with first-hand knowledge of the area. You'll need to get your wellies on to read it as you'll have to 'wade' through a lot of info which isn't directly related to Puddler's Row. We do tend to digress a bit on this forum! One of the things you'll find in the topic is this photo of Liddle's buildings from 1910. The angle on the corner suggests to me that it may be the building marked in orange here. It's definitely on a corner!
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Alan Edgar (Eggy1948) commented on Alan Edgar (Eggy1948)'s gallery image in Historic Bedlington
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Great work @Canny lass đ I agree that this is likely what the buildings were laid out as. A good thing that the enumerator was so detailed. Still such a mystery! A quick peek on the 1881 census brings up also detailed addresses of the area. After Liddleâs Cottages (Liddleâs Yard?) there is âClarkâs Cottagesâ followed by the Puddlers Arms, then âMillfield Cottagesâ. After âMillfieldâ follows Puddlersâ Row. I was wondering due to these two addresses surrounding the Puddlersâ, the âClarkâs Cottagesâ may be a reference to BLUE in Craigâs Buildings, and then âMillfield Cottagesâ refer to the RED part of Craigs. These addresses arenât brought up again.
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Make a cup of tea, there's no way of explaining this quickly! This may throw a little light on the mystery! The enumerator for Bedlington, District 9 in the 1911 census, was one J W Gaskin. He appears to have been a man who took his work very seriously. Going above and beyond the call of duty in meticulously recording the statutory requirements: name, age, birthplace etc. of each person he recorded even a brief description of the building in which the residents lived. From these descriptions I think its now possible to identify the buildings at Bank Top â at least in 1911. @loopylou Yesterday you described the census for 1911 in the following manner. (Iâve taken the liberty of colour coding your text so that I can compare them to census records, photos and maps. Unfortunately I can't use coloured text here). You said: âNo. 1 Craggs (missing, a shop? Uninhabited?) BLUE No. 2 Craggs Buildings (Weightman) BLUE No. 3 Craggs Buildings (Elliott) BLUE No. 4 Craggs Buildings (Kinghorn) BLUE following these are Old Puddlers Arms (Mawson) GREEN Old Puddlers Arms (Thain) GREEN Old Puddlers Arms (Cole) GREEN Old Puddlers Arms (Burrell) GREEN All of these addresses âOld Puddlers Armsâ have two rooms each, which equates with the eight rooms described in the auction. then confusingly Craggs Buildings (no number) (McMullen) RED No. 2 Craggs Buildings (Thompson) RED No. 3 Craggs Buildings (Hutchinson) RED No. 4 Craggs Buildings (Campbell) RED No. 5 Craggs Buildings (Hadaway) RED Craggs Buildings (no number) (Parker) RED These also had two rooms each. Then after follows River View. It would appear that No. 2/3/4 are duplicated, but I do not think that these are the same properties, rather that the end six properties later become No. 9-14 of Craggs.â Let's ompare that with what the enumerator says. The enumerator describes the buildings these people lived in as follows: P 10: Sch nrs. 217 â 219 âCraigs Buildings, 1 block of 4 cottagesâ (1 unoccupied therefore only 3 sch. Nrs.) BLUE P 10: Sch nrs. 220 â 223 âOld Puddlerâs Arms, 1 block 4 dwelling housesâ GREEN P 11: Sch nrs. 224 â 229 âCraigs Buildings 2nd block in flats, 6 dwelling housesâ RED There after follows River View starting with âa semi-detached villa, a villa, 6 more semi-detached villas and then 1 block 7 cottagesâ. If we transfer that information to a map (this one from 1924 as itâs the nearest I have) it looks like this: Following on from the red marking of Craigs Buildings, 2nd block, Iâve marked the enumeratorâs description of River View: semi detached villa (pink), villa (yellow) and 7 semi-detached villas (purple), 1 block of 7 cottages (orange). If we then transfer that information to the 1930s photo it looks like this: There are a couple of questions that arise: The unmarked space between the blue marking and the green marking has no immediate explanation from the enumerator. I would suggest that it could be one of the 3 houses, each with four rooms, described in the 1864 advert as these are âadjoinedâ to the Puddlerâs Arms. If this is the case then it should be marked BLUE. Much depends on the location of the outer wall of the Puddlerâs Arms â to the right of or to the left of the unmarked space? In total, the three cottages have 12 rooms. The advert dated 1869 includes 6 double cottages of 2 rooms each. This also gives a total 12 rooms, so these could be the 3 roomed cottages mentioned in 1864. An alternative explanation for the space would be that it was occupied by the 2-roomed cottage offered for sale with the Puddlerâs Arms in 1869 as part of the same lot for sale in 1869. If this is the case then it should be marked GREEN. To me it seems that, at least in 1911, the large building contained not only the public house (to the right) but also 6 flats (to the left). Iâve said before that housing was at a premium due to the need for a greatly increased workforce in Bedlington. Perhaps the Puddlerâs Arms originally occupied the whole of the building but renting out accommodation may have given the opportunity to provide a better income â for infinitely less effort.