Ukip Publishes GE Manifesto

[threegee]

Well, well, if anyone was in any doubt that Ukip with its (so far) one MP wasn't calling the agenda now, then read up on yesterday's debate and Commons vote:

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/11169431/Britain-is-lighting-a-fire-under-the-European-Union-says-Philip-Hammond.html

 

293 votes to zero and Miliband frozen in the headlights with, on one side europhile Cameron threatening the parliament act if Labour tries to block a referendum using Tony's Cronies in the Lords, and on the other Miliband's own senior MPs telling him he's out-of-touch, undemocratic and wrong, and shouldn't try the Labour blocking stunt a second time.  Plus Tory MPs telling Cameron to defy the LDs and just do it anyway. Whatever happened to the excuse that a referendum was impossible because of the coalition agreement?

 

So where are the LD's in all of this?  After all we've been told ad infinitum how important the EU is, but it seems Cleggy and the entire LD front bench had more important things to do than to advance their own position. The single LD who attended the debate either didn't vote or voted against core LD policy.  You simply couldn't make this up!

 

Together with Carswell pinning Cameron on the MP recall bill earlier, it's looking like something resembling a real democracy is in the offing.  If Ukip can achieve this with just one MP, imagine the shake up 100 Ukip MPs would bring!  .

 

[threegee]

From the Local Government Chronicle:

[Malcolm Robinson]

Aren;t those exactly the people we are complaining about????????

[threegee]

Aren;t those exactly the people we are complaining about????????

 

Yes, but everyone is capable of redemption, and reformed poachers make the best gamekeepers.

 

Personally I'd draw the line at Oxford PPE graduates and old Etonians, but as it is only former EDL, BNP, etc. are barred.  Anyway, the BNP seem to be finding a cosy new home in the Labour Party, so no need even to feel sorry for lonely fascists! 

[keith lockey]

I see UKIP have an office in Blyth now - where Business Link was.

[Symptoms]

I see that the neo-Nazi Britain First Party are cosying up to the ukippers in Rochester.

[Tonyp]

Ukip doing there job for them

[Symptoms]

The ooze is now leaking out from the Reckless ukipper ... they're going to "send them all back".

[threegee]

The ooze is now leaking out from the Reckless ukipper ... they're going to "send them all back".

 

Reckless actually said that if Britain leaves the EU migrants should have to have a work permit, and IF they don't bother to get one they should only be allowed to stay for so long. That's exactly the situation right now with Brits in Italy; even as a EU citizen you are only allowed to stay for 6 months without a residents permit (and you don't get one of those without an inquisition at the town hall, a stiff means test, and the local mayor likes your face - all with no right of appeal). There's absolutely no prospect of work, even if you wanted it - it's the southern Euro-zone, there ain't any work!  Locals who want work leave for the UK or Germany.

 

Hey, it's pre-election day, all sorts of crap is doing the rounds.  Tories have certainly been telling the posh parts of Rochester that if UKIP gets in their house values will plummet!   And Labour has certainly been telling their supporters to make sure that they vote TORY!

[Symptoms]

GGG wrote: " ... even as a EU citizen you are only allowed to stay for 6 months without a residents permit ... "

 

Does that apply to those from the Irish Republic who've been in Blighty for decades, or are there 'special' arrangements for Irish nationals?

[threegee]

Ukip doing there job for them

 

Or looked at another way:  Through their denial there was an issue LibLabCon have provided no moderate and rational place for the vast numbers of decent people who have serious concerns about the unsustainable levels of immigration to turn to EXCEPT to the BNP.  i.e. LibLabCon has fuelled extremism!

 

This proposition is proven by the demise of the BNP and other extreme right groups who are undeniably now down to a hard core of extremists members, and who no one takes seriously any longer.  Look back just a very few years to see the chattering classes fretting over the then rise of the BNP.  Ukip won't touch right wing extremists with a bargepole - most of the defectors have joined Labour, and Labour is so desperate it not only admits them as members, it allows them to stand for office!

[threegee]

GGG wrote: " ... even as a EU citizen you are only allowed to stay for 6 months without a residents permit ... "

 

Does that apply to those from the Irish Republic who've been in Blighty for decades, or are there 'special' arrangements for Irish nationals?

 

You are right, we have a special relationship with the Republic.  I have an Irish friend who pops back and forth daily, even bought a second house in Ulster where his wife lives for the required qualifying period of the year.  All so's his kids can get a better education in the UK.

[Tonyp]

There's going to be nobody living in UK if UKIP after all we are a B*****d nation lol....

[threegee]

There's going to be nobody living in UK if UKIP after all we are a B*****d nation lol....

 

In the last ten years the rate of population growth has been significantly more rapid at an estimated 380,000 per year. In this period, however, much of the increase was due to net migration.

 

Notice the up-tick starting after Labour's first 5 year term?  As the EU fails and we suck in more of Eastern and Southern Europe, then the green dashed line on that graph becomes a joke (we are then rapidly heading for 100 million in this tiny island).  We can take in at most 50,000 immigrants a year before there's an impact on our social services, and there's no way this can be achieved inside the EU.  Those in the Westminster Bubble know this, but they choose not to mention it because they think short-term and in their own interest, not the interests of our children.

 

Far more immigrants have come into this country since Tony Blair took office than in the entire 1000 years before that! And, that previous 1000 years includes the "Windrush" years of the 1950's which caused such alarm.  So don't fall for the establishment BS about historical precedent and always having taken in immigrants - there simply is no historical precedent for these ridiculously high levels, they're suicidal!

[Malcolm Robinson]

A driver was stuck in a traffic jam on the M4 near Swindon .

Nothing was moving.

Suddenly, a man knocks on the window.

The driver rolls down the window and asks, "What's going on?"

"Terrorists have kidnapped all members of Parliament, and they're

asking for a £100 million ransom. Otherwise, they are going to douse them all in petrol and set them on fire. We are going from car to car, collecting donations."

"How much is everyone giving, on an average?" the driver asks.

The man replies, "Roughly a litre."

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In another beautifully timed EU diktat George Osborne loses in the EU court, once again!  The practical effect of the ruling is that the UK is now set up to lose some of it's very biggest income tax payers as international banks move them outside the UK.  Just another one of the many hidden cost of EU membership. However you feel about banker's bonuses, totally capping them is severely bad for our financial-centric economy.

 

Thus the German master-plan of establishing Frankfurt as the world financial centre (or certainly that of the Fourth Reich) moves relentlessly forward.

 

The non-hidden loss to the UK from EU membership since the start of the present government in 2010 has been set at close to £50,000,000,000.  So where are the compensating benefits for all this spend of our tax money?  Back in the 1960's the principal benefit was touted as not having the costs of currency conversion in travelling/trading with Europe - seems that this one went out of the window long ago.  You can confidently bet that EU mandarins are busy working on new ways to quietly screw us as you read this.