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  13. Levies on energy-wasting appliances

    in Talk of the Town

    Posted

    I'm also sitting on the fence Pete, I worked for many years on many types of generators, here's another view.

    Swalnalla

    The biggest problem for me, with all these argumnets that are for and against, is how much money are the big boys puting in to get the so called facts slanted in there favour.

    I could be totally wrong about the stament that I have just made but one does wonder.

    (This is not a reference to your link)

    Malcolm

    I think this link goes along side your argument.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/climate/adaptation/water.shtml

  14. Local Politics

    in Talk of the Town

    Posted

    Perhaps but the system is defined so why bother, it's hardly worthwhile, it aint

    changing unless you're Jamie "Shirley Temple" Oliver..... :huh:

    But that's the problem (the system is defined so why bother) you can only change somthing by getting involved, I don't mean you personally but if we all got involved the system could be changed.

    We have a Goverment that does not listen anymore but they will listen if they lose the next general election.

  16. Levies on energy-wasting appliances

    in Talk of the Town

    Posted

    In most UK power stations there are , how many wind generators do you think it will take to replace even one of these machines? There's a lot of green wind out there but they haven't done the sums. :( Nuclear and/or fossil fuel will be necessary for many years to come.

    http://www.bwea.com/edu/calcs.html

    To be honest Swalnalla I don't know how many wind generators it would take to replace one of the four generators rated at between 500-660mw, This is a subject that I have no knowledge in.

    I am not arguing for the Green party or any other party, just interested to know what the answer or out come to this problem is.

    I do agree that Nuclear/ fossil fuel will be used for many years to come, as I stated in an earlier post this subject will be debated for years with the powers to be making no real decissions except to put more tax on those that can't afford to pay it.

    An interesting piece of imformation from your link:

    The average wind farm in the UK will pay back the energy used in its manufacture within three to five months, and over its lifetime a wind turbine will produce over 30 times more energy than was used in its manufacture.

    This compares favourably with coal or nuclear power stations, which deliver only a third of the total energy used in construction and fuel supply. So, if fuel is included in the calculation, fossil fuel or nuclear power stations never achieve an energy pay back. Wind energy not only achieves pay back within a few months of installation but does so from a fuel that is free and inexhaustible.

    I know this is only a couple of paragraphs and not the whole story.

  17. Levies on energy-wasting appliances

    in Talk of the Town

    Posted

    I agree with what you are saying especially about holding politicians to account but the wheels of power move to slowly for the solution to be put in place, They will still be debating this issue next year.

    Pete,

    I know all about those dammed wheels of power moving too slowly! And yes the ploliticians will be talking endlessly and most of the time aimlessly, why, because that seems to be their job these days! They will say they are held to account every 4 years or so but that is Bxxxxxxs! Let us not forget they are only there to REPRESENT OUR views, that being the true sense of our democratic model. Somehow that has been lost and we now find we are being told what to do and how to behave by people who you wouldn't let your dog take for a walk! Next time you see a politician on TV sidetrack or refuse to answer a specific question ask why they are on the show if they are not going to give straight answers! If I was the interviewer I would refuse them anymore airtime!

    My biggest fear is for my Grandchildren and what future they will have, could they be looking at a scorched Earth?

    That would be my concern as well! Being of a certain age, it should be encumbent on my generation to leave something better than we found for future generations, as it is my generation who are the power brokers at present!

    Malcolm

    Your 100% spot on there (held to account every 4 years or so but that is Bxxxxxxs) the ballot box does not always hold the answer to the problem, it usally means more of the same but a different style.

    Politians representing my views, well your correct again I have never meet one.

    Politians sjdetracking a question the late HW was master at that.

    One things for sure you can usally get a response from your local MP the day before a General election it's surprising how far they can bend over backwards to please. I have got a true story on that one but I'll refrain from using it in this post.

  18. Levies on energy-wasting appliances

    in Talk of the Town

    Posted

    Malcolm

    Have we got a true Green party? Surly if we went 100% green we would have to get rid of all the cars, buses, trains and anything else that spews out carbon including industry. We would have to go back hundreds of years to the days we hunted rabbits and lived off the land (not a bad thought by the way or maybe not we would probably have to pay tax with carrots and rabbit skins).

    Pete,

    I do not really know the answer to that one but if we look at things sensibley, Nature is a carbon user so that must mean there is an equalibrium we can arrive at. The problem seems to be the way we have over developed "dirty" industry so we produce more than Nature can accomodate. With only the bottom line to think about business has ignored this effect in the persuit of profits, and to give consumers what they demand, lets not forget! I have no doubt business can clean up its act as long as consumers will take the hit for the extra costings. Some look as if they are already doing that but China and India have a lot of catching up to do before they take on board this type of business model, can we really blame them and do we have the right to pontificate?

    I know this is a serious issue that has been debated for many years now but nothing seems to happen, no government to date has really done anything about this issue, it’s been talk, talk and more talk with no results.

    That is why it is so important to hold politicians to account!

    How serious do other countries take this issue, I have watched three different news channels this morning, two of these channels played heavily on this issue the third didn’t even mention this issue at all needless to say it was an American news channel, if there not interested can GB do it alone?

    Of course we cannot, GB's pollution is a drop in the ocean compared to others ( I wonder if Maggie was a closet Green and that was why she decimated manufacturing in the UK!) but we do seem to be pretty good at inventing solutions. As a mature economy he have a requirement to try and redress the polution we have caused in its development even if it is just to show others it can be done and show developing economies how it can be done!

    Malcolm

    I agree with what you are saying especially about holding politicians to account but the wheels of power move to slowly for the solution to be put in place, They will still be debating this issue next year.

    My biggest fear is for my Grandchildren and what future they will have, could they be looking at a scorched Earth?

  19. Levies on energy-wasting appliances

    in Talk of the Town

    Posted

    If you think about it, i remember when the green house effect was first discovered as a way in which temperature changes happen on earth.Then super computers were created and they were used to predict longer range weather forecasts. Then when these computers became more powerful they plugged in the data they had concerning this new green house effect theory, and hey presto the end of the human race! It might have been preventable but it would have needed the whole world to agree that something had to be done....everyone else agreed it did.... The great satan george walter bush thought it didn't. RIP

    Thats one of the points I was trying to make Dave, America is one of the biggest nations in the world and they don't seem to be interested.

  20. Levies on energy-wasting appliances

    in Talk of the Town

    Posted

    Threegee

    Is nuclear really the way forward? There have been plenty of scares over the years related to nuclear power stations and illness with children living near these places.

    Have the Greens not got a point when it comes to renewable energy? After all there’s plenty of wind and waves on this island.

    Malcolm

    Have we got a true Green party? Surly if we went 100% green we would have to get rid of all the cars, buses, trains and anything else that spews out carbon including industry. We would have to go back hundreds of years to the days we hunted rabbits and lived off the land (not a bad thought by the way or maybe not we would probably have to pay tax with carrots and rabbit skins).

    I know this is a serious issue that has been debated for many years now but nothing seems to happen, no government to date has really done anything about this issue, it’s been talk, talk and more talk with no results.

    How serious do other countries take this issue, I have watched three different news channels this morning, two of these channels played heavily on this issue the third didn’t even mention this issue at all needless to say it was an American news channel, if there not interested can GB do it alone?

  21. Levies on energy-wasting appliances

    in Talk of the Town

    Posted

    Any pundits with forecasts on next Thursday's results?

    Also might WDC agree to take Milibands radioactive waste? The inward investment looks tailor made for Wansbeck but I wonder where it would go!!!!!!!!!!

    Malcolm,

    I know this is a totaly different subject,

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6095680.stm

    But is this the end of travel as we know it and who sufferes with this one, yet again the man in the street.

    Levies on energy-wasting appliances, does this mean that the less fortunate get stung again, sorry just having gripe.

  22. Local Politics

    in Talk of the Town

    Posted

    "But there's good news the Goverment anounced yesterday thet their giving more power to local councils and you will be able to hold your councilors to account, they even mentioned more Mayor"

    Accountability in local gov, now there's a novel idea! Bedlington could have had it's own Mayor many years ago, all that was needed was for a Town council and a very small percentage of the local people could have willed it. That is notwithstanding the little fact that two Authorites in the country effectivley banned Parish/Town councils. One was North Tyneside the other.......begings with W, ends in K!

    Mobilize the troops and get it changed.

    :D

  24. Whats Happening In Bedlington

    in Talk of the Town

    Posted

    ooh... lots of police cars outside the monkey!

    any ideas to whats going on?

    the boys in blue were pushing someone into a car when i was driving past... as i nosily drove past again they seemed to be smiling about it... a party perhaps?

    good on them whatever!

    The Monkey used to do a good pint of charingtons, do they still sell it?

    Anymore news on what happened there I like the gossip.

  25. Local Politics

    in Talk of the Town

    Posted

    The reason many people don't care to join the system, apart from general laziness, is that if they do, they may have to shoulder some of the blame when something goes wrong.

    From their point of view it is much more satisfyingly virtuous to do nothing, while loudly complaining and sneering at the presumed ineptitude of those who try!

    In politics, as in life, you get what you give.

    Joe

    You've got that spot on Joe, especially the last bit (you get what you give)

    But there's good news the Goverment anounced yesterday thet their giving more power to local councils and you will be able to hold your councilors to account, they even mentioned more Mayor

    http://news.bbc.co.u...ics/6084998.stm

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