Pete

What were the local election results, who won?

Check this out, is it possible or is this a joke? http://business.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=614102004 Green Coal

We showed five minutes of sheer brillence on Saturday and could have won the game. hav'ent got a clue what they were trying to do for the other 85 minutes, but a good away point.

A very happy animal

Bring on Manchester City. Howay the Lads

Check this out, how dare they http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...ted/default.stm

Yea but it would be nice to remember

Who's Kasabien and what do they do, never heard of them.

Whoopy DO Watford who? Howay the Lads

Looks good I have just booked a cheap flight, one way.

We'll beat that Watford an al Denzel. Watford Who?

I fully agree Howay the Toon, man

Yes Denzel but it was not the Monkey it was the Percy, the off sales down the side. Is it still there?

It'll be a long trip to Colchester, oops they might even be in the premier league by the end of the season, Colchester trip posponed.

Just read your two links Swalnalla, left me 100% undecided, still sitting on the fence. Somebody must have the answer.

Going down. the Championship awaits us. Ah well I'll be able to watch them when they play Leicester City.

All the more reason to get involved

Swalnalla The biggest problem for me, with all these argumnets that are for and against, is how much money are the big boys puting in to get the so called facts slanted in there favour. I could be totally wrong about the stament that I have just made but one does wonder. (This is not a reference to your link) Malcolm I think this link goes along side your argument. http://www.bbc.co.uk/climate/adaptation/water.shtml

But that's the problem (the system is defined so why bother) you can only change somthing by getting involved, I don't mean you personally but if we all got involved the system could be changed. We have a Goverment that does not listen anymore but they will listen if they lose the next general election.

Does the Toon really need this type of Journalism when they are clearly strugling? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...ted/default.stm Hope this story never come true. Glens doing a brillient job with the troops he's got.

To be honest Swalnalla I don't know how many wind generators it would take to replace one of the four generators rated at between 500-660mw, This is a subject that I have no knowledge in. I am not arguing for the Green party or any other party, just interested to know what the answer or out come to this problem is. I do agree that Nuclear/ fossil fuel will be used for many years to come, as I stated in an earlier post this subject will be debated for years with the powers to be making no real decissions except to put more tax on those that can't afford to pay it. An interesting piece of imformation from your link: The average wind farm in the UK will pay back the energy used in its manufacture within three to five months, and over its lifetime a wind turbine will produce over 30 times more energy than was used in its manufacture. This compares favourably with coal or nuclear power stations, which deliver only a third of the total energy used in construction and fuel supply. So, if fuel is included in the calculation, fossil fuel or nuclear power stations never achieve an energy pay back. Wind energy not only achieves pay back within a few months of installation but does so from a fuel that is free and inexhaustible. I know this is only a couple of paragraphs and not the whole story.

Malcolm Your 100% spot on there (held to account every 4 years or so but that is Bxxxxxxs) the ballot box does not always hold the answer to the problem, it usally means more of the same but a different style. Politians representing my views, well your correct again I have never meet one. Politians sjdetracking a question the late HW was master at that. One things for sure you can usally get a response from your local MP the day before a General election it's surprising how far they can bend over backwards to please. I have got a true story on that one but I'll refrain from using it in this post.

Malcolm I agree with what you are saying especially about holding politicians to account but the wheels of power move to slowly for the solution to be put in place, They will still be debating this issue next year. My biggest fear is for my Grandchildren and what future they will have, could they be looking at a scorched Earth?

Thats one of the points I was trying to make Dave, America is one of the biggest nations in the world and they don't seem to be interested.

Threegee Is nuclear really the way forward? There have been plenty of scares over the years related to nuclear power stations and illness with children living near these places. Have the Greens not got a point when it comes to renewable energy? After all there’s plenty of wind and waves on this island. Malcolm Have we got a true Green party? Surly if we went 100% green we would have to get rid of all the cars, buses, trains and anything else that spews out carbon including industry. We would have to go back hundreds of years to the days we hunted rabbits and lived off the land (not a bad thought by the way or maybe not we would probably have to pay tax with carrots and rabbit skins). I know this is a serious issue that has been debated for many years now but nothing seems to happen, no government to date has really done anything about this issue, it’s been talk, talk and more talk with no results. How serious do other countries take this issue, I have watched three different news channels this morning, two of these channels played heavily on this issue the third didn’t even mention this issue at all needless to say it was an American news channel, if there not interested can GB do it alone?