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Why do the Words 'mountain' and 'molehill' spring to mind when reading that?

I'm not religious either Mercury but I am both curious and interested in other people and their Culture. Couldn't agree more about the need for education in this area but a better Place to start is by talking to muslims. They'll willingly discuss their belief without trying to force it on you - unlike some Christian Groups who regularly knock on the door. I can't say I'm disgusted, more disheartened, by the islamophobia that's pervading our society just now but I am "very much afraid" (to quote a regular contributor on this site). Islamophobia is a much bigger threat today than terrorism.

Ah! I see you read the Beano too 3g! Are you trying to tell me that I should believe that all all Brits are murderers just because a couple of them have been tried and convicted for that crime? I'd better keep that quiet for the Swedish government. They might send me back!

" It's about a religion that's full of hate, advocates violence and is absolutely intolerant of ALL other religions". You have clearly read a different version of the Koran than I - and a billion muslims the World over - have read (in my case albeit a translation). I can agree that it in some ways it advocates violence but only because it advocates corrporal punishment, just as the UK did until the 1950s, and not because it advocates violence for any other reason. However, I've not found any mention of hate anywhere. As for ALL other religions not being tolerated, I'm afraid that's simply not true. You talk of muslims as though they are all the same. They are not. The islamic religion is devided into two Groups. On the one hand you have the Shia muslims, which make up a grand total of 10 - 15% of the approximately 1½ billion muslims in the World. On the other hand, you have the Sunni muslims, who make up the remaining 85 - 90 %. Both Groups share the same fundamental beliefs and practices. They've managed to agree that there is only one God in their religion and that he shall be called Allah. They've even agreed that Mohammed is his Messenger. Both Groups follow the same 5 basic principles of Islam and they both use the same holy book - the Koran. Here, the likeness stops for when it comes to such things as doctrine and law they haven't quite got their act together and havent yet managed to agree - and probably never will. On the subject of doctrine, the Sunni, on the one hand, have come to rely on the practice of the Prophet Mohammed and his teachings just as Christians the World over have come to rely on God and his teachings. The Shia, on the other hand view their ayatollahs as the embodiment of their God on this Earth. These differences have been around for many centuries and had their origins in the dispute over who should step into the Prophet Mohammed's shoes when he died.The Sunni Group won the 'battle' and the Shia Group have been angry ever since. Furthermore, while the Shia believe in the existence of one God only, Allah, the Sunni, respect the difference between individuals when it comes to choosing their God. On the subject of law, Both Groups are subject to Sharia law. That's logical really as it's based on the Koran and, to a certain extent on the Sunna (a compliment to the Koran). However - and this is a big HOWEVER - both Groups do not interpret Sharia law in the same way! The same Group in different countries can also interpret Sharia in different ways. The same Group in two different Cultures can also interpret Sharia in different ways and even individuals can interpret it in different ways. It is thought that the Shia Group are more fundamental in their interpretation than the Sunni. This is no easy law to apply!! I think you are mistaken 3g when you say that muslim law function parallel to the legal system in Britain. I assume, maybe wrongly - but then I'm sure you will correct me, that you are referring to the Muslim Arbitration Tribunal (1966). This is not a separate legal system but part and parcel of the British legal system dealing with questions of civil law. Most muslims belong to the less extreme Sunni Group and live very peaceably as good Citizens in their host country. Isn't it time we stopped tarring every muslim with the same Dirty brush. Instead of talking generally about muslims when talking of terrorists why not just use the terrorist Word? How many procent of the 10% fundamentalists are we talking about here?

" the petition doesn't say refugees it says immigration. Exactly how these two entirely distinct concepts have come to be so comprehensibly conflated is one of those wonders of bleeding-heart liberal left double-think" . I'm having difficulties understanding the same thing with immigrant and terrorist. Brian, you ask if anyone has Heard of any muslims being outraged at the Deaths in France. I have. Here the muslim Community is one of the largest help groups, dishing out clothes and food to incoming immigrants. Of course, there are those who accuse them of "looking after their own". Simple arithmetic will tell you there can't be that many terrorists. Sure, there will be one or two - to join the throng who've been there for years - but tarring everybody with the same brush is not going to help. There are extremists in all walks of Life: religious fanatics, environmentalists, terrorists and racists - to mention but a few. Pilgrim, you ask how they finance their journey. Some of them have studied and worked hard och earned their Money in much the same way as you and I. The majority, however have had their journey financed by their parents or grandparents. They have sold Everything they possess to be able to give there younger relatives the chance to, first and formost, SURVIVE and secondly to have a better Life. They choose to live in poverty themselves in order to do this and have a very simple philosophy - "I've had my Life, son. It doesn't matter if I die now. You have your Life ahead of you, but there's no future here". Can you honestly say, that in the same situation, you wouldn't do the same thing? Where to start? getting people out of their country and into Another without a passport is big business these Days. It's not hard to find someone if you can pay the asking price.

I'm not sure but I Think the vicarage behind St Cuthberts was built long before any of those houses on Burdon Terrace. If you look at the first edition OS map of Bedlington for 1860 there is only one building on the Bishop's Meadow area. Possibly it's the Wharton Arms. The building wasn't there on the Tithe Award map of 1843. It's not until the third edition of the map, dated 1920 that you find any Buildings. According to the Bedlington Area Character Appraisal of January 2011 para 4.30, www.northumberland.gov.uk, by 1920 "At the west end, new facilities appeared: the Prince of Wales Picture house opened Close to a new mission room". Maybe it's this mission that Maggie is referring to. However, I finally found Glebe Row on the second edition OS map, dated 1897. It appears to be a small row of houses running parallel to the main road but immediately behind the houses fronting onto the main Bedlington - Choppington road on the right hand side leaving Bedlington. From the placement of the name it's actually difficult to say just which houses are referred to as Glebe Row, but there is only this small block which has been added since the first edition when Glebe Row wasn't mentioned. So now we know!

That sounds like a possibility, Moe. I didn't know about the vicarage on Burdon Tce. I remember the Tankerville well and know it was on the doctor's side of the road but I jut cannot Place the Alma at all. It must have been gone Before my time. It was the photo mentioned above which made me wonder if the name Glebe Row had somehow or other changed over the years to Glebe Road, I found Glebe Road on Google maps (2015) and it's exactly where Maggie refers to the mission being. at the same time - if the Alma was on the "corner of Glebe Row and Oliver's Buildings" then it suggests that Glebe Row was a side street off Glebe Road.

Coming back to JD's excellent topic, Old Bedlington Photographs & Stories - John has posted a Picture (post #7) of what he calls "Glebe Road" This same picture appears on ancestry.co.uk on the thread related to John N Barnes. On this thread, however, the title of the photo is "The Alma Inn, Glebe Row" ... "where John N Barnes lived and worked".

If you read John Dawson's thread "Old Bedlington Photographs & Stories he places the Alma inn "on the corner of Glebe Row and Oliver's Buildings (a row of stone houses erected 1850). I found a reference to Oliver's Buildings on genesunited.co.uk where the adress of the Kelly family is given as Oliver's Buildings, Glebe Row, Bedlington. The first gives Glebe Row as being separate from Oliver's Buildings and the second gives Oliver's Buildings as being part of Glebe Row. Confusing! But, we seem to be in the right area. However, none of this fits in with Maggies 'tin mission' near Bishops Meadow. Was the Alma on the right or the left when leaving Bedlington via the 1068? I thought it was on the right.

Started to wonder what a 'Glebe' was - or is. Wikipedia has the answer: "an area of land within an ecclesiastical parish used to support a parish priest" It can also be called a "church furlong" or a "parsons close". I wondered why the mission hall was so far from the Church and maybe this is the answer.

Could Glebe Row be the road that's now called Glebe Road? Or, could it have been a smaller street off Glebe Road - as Maggie describes?

A couple of years ago John Dawson posted a photograph of the Alma Inn in 'Old Bedlington Photographs & Stories' . The adress for the Alma Inn was also Glebe Row . According to http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com Glebe Row is now the A1068 out of Bedlington. St. Cuthbert's Mission Hall also had the same adress if anybody know's where that was.

Joan Morland, (I knew her well, she lived almost opposite me), was right when she said that Pamela Straw was next to Joan Short. However it's not number 8 but the girl on Joan's left - 6th from the left. The headmistress, Miss Gair, is on the left of the photo and not on the right as stated. Number 3 is Lorna Naisby. Just remembered, front row 5th from the left is Leslie Newton (Plessey Street) and the girl 5th from the right, second row is Brenda Shaw.

Interesting Reading Symptoms! I didn't know about the 1921 strike. Thanks for sharing that.

In the version I learned as a child the ee sound was mentioned: I Before E except after C but only when the sound is EE Of course there are a few exceptions to this as well. Here in Sweden they use another rhyme when teaching English to students: I Before E except after C Or when sounded as A as in neighbour or weigh. This one is somewhat better, in my opinion, but it also has a few exceptions. However, you'll more often than not get it right by using the rule.

I've had a couple of those steeping in vinegar. Now drying out nicely!

Now I know what you mean! You're referring to the Nicholas Garrow Home for the blind. Nothing to do with Netherton. Thomas Taylor Homes (Part 3 accomodation - probably called something else these Days) and Mona Taylor (Maternity Hospital) shared the same entrance and grounds. The Maternity hospital was behind the Thomas Taylor Homes.

Thanks Eggy, that looks like a possible. Office Row was gone before my time at the colliery.

As with most things, Malcolm, as with most things.

I Think it might be something left over from Halloween.

I've just compared the stonework with that of Nedderton Village Junior school on other photos and they are definitely not the same. So, that rules it out.

I haven't ever Heard of this and looking at the building I can't place it anywhere other then Howard House, or the Weslyan Chapel as everything else was brick built in my day. It's also very reminiscent of the junior school at Netherton Village and could be - depending on when the name changed. I Think it might be a bit early to have anything to do with miner's strikes but it could have something to do with post-war poverty.

What would a Young lad not do to get his hands on a decent conker!! Well your visit seems seems to have made a lasting impression! At least you remember the name of the place. When you say Clifton Lane do you mean Clifton Row? I can't remember any blind home there or anywhere else in Netherton but I Think there was a deaf school at Nedderton Village.. I've also been wondering about the 'Naval Club'. Was it not the 'Ex - Naval Club'? I remember the Word Naval in the name but have never been able to find any naval links to Netherton.

It's just a rule of thumb but it works in most cases. Teaching these rules to Children ensures that they get it right most of the time. If they learn and apply the rule then they'll only make mistakes with the exceptions. As they get older they' will hopefully have learned what the exceptions are.