Alan Edgar (Eggy1948)
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How much Geordie are you speaking?
Test yourself:
When speaking your own dialect to someone who speaks the same dialect, which of the following would you say:
A. He tret his mother very badly.
B. He treated his mother very badly.
A. He's tret her badly for years.
B. He's treated her badly for years.
A. I come to see him last week
B. I came to see him last week.
A. They had came to see me the week before.
B. They hade come to see me the week before.
A. He run away wi the next door neighbour's wife.
B. He ran a way wi the next door neighbour's wife.
A. He had ran away with her sister last year.
B. he had run away with her sister the year Before.
A. A seen im last week in Blyth.
B. A saw im last week in Blyth.
A. A'd saw him a month ago in Morpeth.
B. A'd seen him a month ago in Morpeth.
A. I'm sorry pet. Ya frock shrunk in the washing.
B. I'm sorry pet. Ya frock shrank in the washing.
A. Did you say me frock had shrank in the washing?
B. Did you say me frock had shrunk in the washing?
Well? How much Geordie are you speaking in Bedlington? You'll find the answer on my profile. You may just be surprised. I know I was.
A,A, neetha (but if the word 'I' was replaced with 'A' then
,B,B,A (but a would always avoid Blyth so it dosnt coont),B( but just on a Market Day when the pubs were open all day),nivva weshed a frock so cant say, If a had weshed a frock wor lass wud not complain aboot the ootcum. -
Posting on an old thread here...
But hoping someone knows the reason that "Shiney Raa" was so called...
"Office Raa" and "Double Raa" are self explanatory...
But what is the legend behind "Shiney Raa"..???
Also - did the Bedlington/Barrington "Wharton's" have any connection to the Wharton's in Offerton (Co. Durham)..??
Thanks if you can help
Joe
Joe
asked a cousin to ask her parents if they had any idea why it was called Shiny Row. Really the answer was 'no-idea' but to confirm how asking one question does not get the hoped for answer but sends the aged off down memory lane - exact extract from email recieved:-
Heres the commentary as they are chatting!!
There are 2 shiny row's-one at Dr Pitt and one is a place in Durham.
It was a street in the colliery and pops used to walk along it when he went to pictures which is now the gym on glebe row bank. Charlie Cofran lived there (apparently!)
No ideas on why it would be called Shiny Row I'm afraid! Just a random name?! Doctor Terrace and North Terrace were beside Shiny Row.
Pops had piano lessons at Cross Row which was next to the Dr Pitt brickyard. Lukey lived at Doctor Terrace. They must all have been in the vicinity?!
Talk has gone off at a tangent to Jimmy Graves and very random other names!!
Doesn't help but getting oldies to recall the past makes me smile.
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Posting on an old thread here...
But hoping someone knows the reason that "Shiney Raa" was so called...
"Office Raa" and "Double Raa" are self explanatory...
But what is the legend behind "Shiney Raa"..???
Also - did the Bedlington/Barrington "Wharton's" have any connection to the Wharton's in Offerton (Co. Durham)..??
Thanks if you can help
Joe
Joe
I can't remember anyone on this site giving an explanation for any of the street names. I would agree that some would appear obvious but just so we (or just me) have the same idea - Office Row - I was always told that in a pit village the Office Row was built close to the pit and those house were for the white collar workers.
Eggy
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Great picture of the market place, now how did anyone get to the top of the church clock tower to take it???
anyone recall the story of the sleepwalker who fell to his death from the tower in the night??
Only remember that I was told the sleepwalking incident was known as 'Watson's Wake'. Mrs Watson shouted up to him, he awoke and fell to death. I have nothing to substantiate this.
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She and MacGregor Both Lied, Both stated there was no plan to Destroy the British Coal Mining Industry however in a No. 10 Document Labeled "SECRET" It states at the bottom of the document on page 10 about the strike, "The situation also provides and excellent opportunity to acceleratre pit closures and to maximise open-cast operations and imports."
And both Macgregor and Thatcher Stated only 20 pits were to close, not 75 and that what Arthur Scargill stated about 70 pits going to close was Completely Untrue (lies) however shows he was right only 5 under.
Also the Goverenment gave MacGregor scripts to read to the press and Thatcher stated that no Cabinet Minister should speak about the strike to the press and/or public as it may give ammunition to the NUM.
Then Also States "in Contrast, any return by Ian MacGregor to the courts at this state is likely to undermine the moderate backlase which is developing within the NUM."
Shows They both feared anyone finding out there plan.
On another issue relating to this I want to find the hit list of the 75 pits anyone know the exact document that they are in? If anyone has found the list.
Can't ever remember anyone saying that the list of 70-75 Mr Scargill talked about was ever published.
Does the Freedom Of Information Act cover the secret cabinet document of 1983:- http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-subject/parliament.htm ?
The National Archives
'Secret' meeting at No 10
Document marked "Not to be photocopied or circulated outside the private office" recording a meeting attended by seven people, including the prime minister, chancellor, energy secretary and employment secretary, at No 10 about pit closures
A document in the secret files includes an instruction that details of the meeting should not be made public
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There is a list of all the closures from 1984 that was published in 2004 by the BBC :- http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3500979.stm
Although there were 170 collieries open in 1984, several merged before they closed which is why there are only 152 entries on this list.
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I'd second GGG's views about CCleaner, like him I've used it for years on various machines; before that I used Evidence Eliminator. But take care when using it.
Ccleaner: The Real ReviewStarted by Mr Darn, Mar 10 2009 05:59 PMSymptoms - read the previous topic on CCleaner by Mr Darn. Downloaded the free software and from the Options given when the package is loaded I would assume there have been quite a few changes in the operating of this package since Mr Darn, and many disgruntled users lost there Documents.
Leaving the default settings unchanged
I initiated the 'Analyze' run and found the list of files reported that would be deleted if the 'Run Cleaner' was initiated, with the default settings, would be acceptable to me.
Details of files to be deleted (Note: No files have been deleted yet)
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Internet Explorer - Temporary Internet Files 117,559 KB 381 files
Internet Explorer - History 2,162 KB 23 files
Internet Explorer - Cookies 3 KB 11 files
Internet Explorer - Index.dat files 1,072 KB 5 files
Windows Explorer - Recent Documents 4 KB 6 files
Windows Explorer - Thumbnail Cache 4,112 KB 6 files
System - Empty Recycle Bin 28,520 KB 20 files
System - Temporary Files 302,027 KB 325 files
System - Memory Dumps 26,303 KB 12 files
System - Windows Log Files 128,572 KB 51 files
Google Chrome - Internet Cache 417,032 KB 2,696 files
Google Chrome - Internet History 1,447 KB 12 files
Google Chrome - Cookies 198 KB 469 files
Google Chrome - Session 32 KB 3 files
Applications - Adobe Acrobat 10.0 453 KB 1 files
Applications - Adobe Acrobat 9.0 222 KB 4 files
Applications - Adobe Acrobat XI 229 KB 3 files
Applications - Adobe Reader 11.0 221 KB 2 files
Applications - McAfee AntiVirus 15,842 KB 252 files
Applications - MS Office Picture Manager 4 KB 2 files
Applications - Office 2007 65 KB 17 files
Applications - Office 2010 65 KB 17 files
Internet - Google Toolbar IE 14 KB 7 files
Internet - Skype 169 KB 61 files
Multimedia - Adobe Flash Player 1 KB 34 files
Multimedia - Macromedia Shockwave 11 19 KB 1 files
Multimedia - Microsoft Silverlight 1 KB 12 files
Multimedia - Windows Media Center 28 KB 22 files
Multimedia - Windows Media Player 1 KB 1 files
Utilities - Adobe Air 7 KB 1 files
Utilities - Windows Defender 2,436 KB 1 files
Windows - MS Search 8,448 KB 66 files
Windows - Remote Desktop 20,467 KB 1 files .
Initiated the 'Run Cleaner' and 5,419 files deleted = 1,052 MB removed
So my system was not that bad, but the tidy still worthwhile.
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I have now ran the Free download scans from Malwarebytes – Avast & Kaspersky and compared them against my current McAfee version. Each product was left with their default settings. My McAfee is set to search for 'Unnecessary system files' of the type :- Temporary Files, Recycle Bin, Registry, Shortcuts, Windows History, Lost File Fragments, Active X Controls, Flash and Searchlight cookies, Memory Image files, Problem report files & Thumbnail cache. The default at download was not changed for the three downloaded products.
No. of Files Scanned
Quick San - Full Scan – Time Taken – Virus found – Adware/Spyware found
McAfee 4,706 not given None None
254,005 not given None None
Malwarebytes 267,727 11 mins None 5 (5 files)
486,451 1hr 58mins None 6 (5 files + 1 'exe' in ProgramFiles)
Avast not given 38mins None None
not given 1hr 22mins None None
Kaspersky not initiated
478,874 1hr 10mins None None
Naturally this small test with only my own spec, and limited knowledge, was very basic. So please no "you should have done…………………….. etc. etc.†It's just me playing (filling in my retirement spare time) and you can ignore or read into it whatever you want.
The one 'exe' file that was found = OptimizerPro and was only detected in the Full scan so I assume 'Program Files' is not scanned on the quick scan. The full filename was C:\Program Files\Optimizer Pro\OptProsmartSmartScan.exe
The other 5 files were under my user in Documents\OptimizerPro.
I Googled 'OptimizerPro' and from the entries returned this is a known piece of Adware/Spyware and earliest report of I saw from Google was 6th December 2011.
As this Spy ware has been known about for at least a couple of years I would have expected all the major products to be aware of this and have it in their relevant database.
Reran Malwarebytes Full scan and at the end took the option to remove the detected files.
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So I win the bet then?
Someone else who doesn't read the "small print" at the bottom?
Threegee - when there are a lot of entries to go through I often use the 'search' facility on the topic. In this case I searched for the word 'bet' and nothing found. Tried it again today and the word 'bet' still not found. Tried longer words and they were all found. Tried 'bet' again and still not found. Tried numerous 3 letter words - 'and' - 'the' - 'bus' - 'car' etc. and nothing returned. This system does not like searching for 3 letter words. Tried a two letter word and the system informs you that words below 3 characters, and certain other words, are not allowed.
'bet' must not be allowed.
Bet I still get it wrong in the future.
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So I win the bet then?
Why on earth would you pay for an AV when one of the very best is completely free?!
Searched for 'bet' and it wasn't me.
AV Summary:-
Malwarebytes detected more that Norton, AVG or McAfee
Adam says Kaspersky is best (or is that just Internet Security?)
threegee says Avast is best
Now my system has been scanned and cleared by Malwarebyte I will, when I have 4 hours spare, do another full scan with Malwarebytes (before by two week free trial runs out) and follow that immediately by downloading and running Avast free AV.
At the end of me running and attempting to compare products I will make a decision on what I will use.
But now I would bet that everyone will still have their own preference. For & Against is easy, just ask my wife!
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Adam, thanks for the info – did some testing with Malwarebytes. Will try Kaspersky PURE 3.0 when I can find their free trial download. Not going to give them £49.99 up front without a trial!
With my current system – Norton Security came with it as part of the package. Switched to AVG when Norton wanted more money. AVG introductory offer was £10 and that lasted for 2 years. Switched from AVG to McAfee in November 2012 – just because of price – AVG price quadrupled and McAfee introductory offer, for what appeared to be the same security options.
None of the security products I have used – Norton, AVG & McAfee have ever detected any possible malicious items on my PC.
Downloaded the trial version of Malwarebytes and did comparison runs against McAfee:-
Quick Scan – Items Scanned – Items Detected -
McAfee 4,706 0
Malwarebytes 267,727 5
Skipped the request to remove the detected items and did:-
Full Scan (C & D)
McAfee 254,005 0
Malwarebytes 486,451 6
All items detected by Malwarebytes were labelled as 'PUP.Optional's - Potentially Unwanted Program.
One exe file that was detected in the FULL scan was C:\Program Files\Optimizer Pro\OptProSmartScan.exe
Ran the Malwarebytes Quick Scan & Full Scan again and this time requesting the detected files to be removed on the completion of each scan. So this time the Full scan only detected the 1 item = the exe file.
Files Detected: 1
C:\Program Files\Optimizer Pro\OptProSmartScan.exe (PUP.Optional.OptimizerPro) -> Quarantined and deleted successfully.
Restarted my system after the deletions. The folder C:\Program Files\Optimizer Pro was still present, but empty. Deleted the folder.
Reran the FULL scan on C: & D:
Scan type: Full scan (C:\|D:\|)
Scan options enabled: Memory | Startup | Registry | File System | Heuristics/Extra | Heuristics/Shuriken | PUP | PUM
Scan options disabled: P2P
Objects scanned: 487482
Time elapsed: 2 hour(s), 7 minute(s), 20 second(s)
Memory Processes Detected: 0Adam – did some testing with Malwarebytes. Will try Kaspersky PURE 3.0 when I can find their free trial download. Not going to give them £49.99 up front without a trial!
With my current system – Norton Security came with it as part of the package. Switched to AVG when Norton wanted more money. AVG introductory offer was £10 and that lasted for 2 years. Switched from AVG to McAfee in November 2012 – just because of price – AVG price quadrupled and McAfee introductory offer, for what appeared to be the same security options.
None of the security products I have used – Norton, AVG & McAfee have ever detected any possible malicious items on my PC.
Time elapsed: 2 hour(s), 7 minute(s), 20 second(s)
Memory Processes Detected: 0
(No malicious items detected)
Memory Modules Detected: 0
(No malicious items detected)
Registry Keys Detected: 0
(No malicious items detected)
Registry Values Detected: 0
(No malicious items detected)
Registry Data Items Detected: 0
(No malicious items detected)
Folders Detected: 0
(No malicious items detected)
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(No malicious items detected)
Memory Modules Detected: 0
(No malicious items detected)
Registry Keys Detected: 0
(No malicious items detected)
Registry Values Detected: 0
(No malicious items detected)
Registry Data Items Detected: 0
(No malicious items detected)
Folders Detected: 0
(No malicious items detected)
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Is the power station no longer with us?
You have me hooked on a feeling that one is pulling our plonker - Ouga Ouga Ouga Chaka.
When the red lights, on the outside of each chimney, used to go out me dad was called out to go and fix them (probably just replace the bulb, but he made it sound important).
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Didn't you miss the second one? And what's wrong with simply right clicking on (an unoccupied place on) the taskbar? You should leave CTL+ALT+DEL as one of the last resorts, because with many operating systems it won't pop up any sort of dialogue and you will lose your entire session - something you don't want to get into the habit of doing! Even with Windows an accidental second keying could spell disaster.
Malwarebytes is a useful addition to your regular AV program. It often picks up stuff that's not necessarily a virus but has been sneaked on to your system.
My bet is that it will find something on your machine, and that won't be false positives aimed at selling you the paid-for version!
Well spotted sir. Yes, missed out the right click on the Task Bar. Must stop these grandkids interrupting me. My knowledge of Ctrl + Alt + Del has been expanded. Remember, vaguely, back in 1987-8 when we first found out you could restart ICL DRS configurations via that method and have always thought it only applied to DOS based systems - never used anything else. Never thought when I retired that years later I would have to dig out my old note book and update it!
Free version of Malewarebytes from http://www.malwarebytes.org downloaded.
Thank you.
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Whilst checking out why one of my applications would fail 'application already running' when attempting to restart it within a session I noticed, within Task Manager, a process I could not remember seeing before. It was - Premieropinion.
I Googled 'premieropinion' and the results told me that I had a piece of 'Adware/Spyware' and this Adware has been around for a few years, difficult to get rid off in Mac systems but easy with Windows Vista etc.
So this code had been sitting on my machine for approximately two months. I could blame grandchildren but from what I have read it could have been initiated as a download buy anyone accidentally clicking on any area of a 'pop-up'. Probably my fault for suspending my McAfee real-time scanning for a few weeks whilst I was checking out performance issues.
You can easily check to see if the Adware is on your system via the Task Manager. For those who have never checked their Task Manager before:-
Two methods to start your Task Manager, and display the processes that are running on your system are:-
Simultaneously press the Ctrl-Alt & Delete keys and you will be given a menu of items you can select.. One will be 'StartTask Manager', select that one and a The Windows Task Manager will start and you will have a list of TABS you can select - Applications/Processes/Services/Performance etc. Select Processes tab and a list of names, in alphabetical order, of executable jobs (with 'exe' file extension) will be displayed. Scroll down and if you find one for 'premierop.......' then select it and then select the 'End Process' button at the bottom right of the display.
That stops the process running in your current session. If not fully deleted the process will restart when you load your system.
To 1) read about and 2) prevent the Adware been reloaded the following is the info from Google search:-
1) http://www.theguardian.com/technology/askjack/2010/jun/02/how-to-remove-opinionspy
PremierOpinion (or Premier Opinion) is adware which gets into computers by piggybacking corrupt screensavers downloaded onto a computer system. Premier Opinion is one of the first badware programs that affects both Macs and PCs. The removal of PremierOpinion has proven to be rather difficult but experts say using a reliable antispyware program should do the trick. Remove PremierOpinion immediately before it wreaks havoc on your system.
2) http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101008083340AAkEuER
PremierOpinion is an Adware application for Window's. Adware isn't harmful at all (unless it freezes your system that is) as it gets rid of things like cookies and, to keep it simple, a whole load of other unnecessary rubbish that'll do nothing but gradually slow your computer to "watchingpaintdry" mode.
If you're having problems with this app. and would like to remove it,click "Start Menu" and open up your "Control Panel".
Inside you'll find either "add/remove programs", or "Programs and Features" , depending on the operating system you use.
Simply open and you'll be shown a list of all the programs installed on your PC, all you need do is search for and delete the application in question. If you use Vista like myself, it'll be named "PremierOpinion" and have an unknown publisher.
Rick click and you will be given the option to UNINSTALL - select that and the offending application will be removed.
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How did Joseph and Mary know that Jesus was 6 pound 7 ounces when he was born? They had a weigh in a manger.
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Final Chapter = Exodus
Mary bent down to pick up the coins.
Oh dear, said Wilf. It wasn't an immaculate conception, just Trapped wind.
We three kings of orient are,
blown away, along with star.
Broon and Amber, Founders too
Following yonder star.
O Star of wonder, star of night
Shepherds, sheep and menu bright.
Eastward leading, still proceeding
Propelled by Mary, into the Light.
New Years resolution = No more. I have used this to practice photo manipulation with transparencies. I hope I have not offended anyone.
yours sincerely
Wilf
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Mary, said Wilf. The stargazers have noticed your predicament and made you a crib and come out to see you.
And look, somebody has dropped some gold!
Pick them up Mary.
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Flanagan and Allen - Underneath The Arches featuring Oi!
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Foxy - Googled 'Mayor of Doncaster' as I enjoy reading about those that deviate from the political norm. Those that say a lot but mean nowt. Looks like Mr Davies tried to too hard to make his point. He resigned from the English Democrat party, going Independent, forcing an election but lost under his new party.
Labour's Ros Jones has won the race to become Doncaster's elected mayor.
Ms Jones secured 25,364 votes to see off the challenge of current mayor Peter Davies, standing as an independent, in a tight contest.
The result was decided on a count of second preferences after just 590 votes separated them on first preferences.
Ms Jones, who has been the councillor for Askern Spa ward for the past seven years, will become the town's first female and second Labour mayor.
Incumbent mayor Mr Davies came second after receiving 24,725 votes.
He stood as an independent candidate after quitting the English Democrat party in February over claims of an influx of new members joining from the British National Party.
Meetings 'horrendous'
He added: "I will not miss the council meetings, which are horrendous in the extreme more often than not."
The turnout for the vote was 28%, with 62,132 voting out of an electorate of 223,608. In 2009 the turnout was 39%.
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Hello Mary, you lost?
Hello Wilf. No not lost just can't find anywhere to stay.
Need to find some where as quick as I can. Any room in The Terrier?
Just too late Mary. There are a lot of star gazers just turned up and God says someone called Wrath is visiting.
Let us na if you get any more Symptoms.
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Keith, re the comment you left on the previous gallery picture of the Clayton Arms, I agree that the more recent building looks a lot different but I think this latest picture shows it in the same place as it is now.
Reedy I think that one should be 'Before Then & Now'. Can't see anyone turning up an earlier one than that. Best one I've seen. Was Bedlington Station known and Sleekburn all know as Sleekburn? Do you know what date it's from?
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Adrian, Andy & Troy and their groopies
flocked in on Monday to hear the woopeees.
So when Holly flicked that enormous switch
t'was time to cheer, not to bitch.
Now they had seen the shining light
where to stay for the rest of the night.
So Wilf invited the three bad shepherds, and their groopies, to The Bedlington Terrier.
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Dialect Words And More
in Chat Central
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Oxter: The armpit. From the Old English oxta or ohsta. The word oxter is used in certain areas of the world (Scotland, Ireland, Northern England), reminding us that there are many local and colloquial names for parts of the human anatomy. Synonymous with axilla.