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Ann, Yes, please. That would be amazing and thank you again for all of your help. Regards. Colin

Hi, I had a look through the Cambois burials on FreeREG and was wondering if James and Mary Alice might’ve sadly lost another child? Their youngest William doesn’t appear in the 1921 census with them, but there is this burial. William Nichol buried 25 January 1914, aged 5, residence Wansbeck Terrace Sleekburn. Lou

Ann, Yes, please. That would be amazing and thank you again for all of your help. Regards. Colin

Pleased to have been of help. I think I may have found the other child who died between 1901 and 1911. I believe that James and Mary Alice had another daughter born in the first quarter of 1897. That would fit in nicely with the gap between the births of George and James. There are no other gaps which would allow for a pregnancy between 1901 and 1911. The firstborn daughter, Annie Margaret Nichol born 1891, was given her maternal grandmother’s name and her birth was registered as Annie Margaret. What I believe to be the second daughter, born 1897, was also given her maternal grandmother’s name but without the diminutive form. Her birth was registered as Ann Margaret Nichol. She died the following year and her death was registered in March 1898 but then using the name Annie Margaret Nichol. She was also buried in Cambois. That parents ‘recycled’ names isn’t uncommon, especially if it was the name of a grandparent or parent. I myself am a perfect example. My mother gave birth to a daughter in 1931 and gave that daughter her maternal grandmother’s name – Annie. The child, Annie, lived only a few months. I was born in 1947 and was also given my maternal grandmother’s name though without the diminutive form – Ann. Like you, I never knew anything about Annie (or another brother dead before my birth) until I was in my 70s. They were never mentioned. The discovery of a sister named Annie explained something that had puzzled me for years. My mother always called me Ann. Everybody else called me Annie. My mother had one Annie and one Ann and for a mother the one could never replace the other. If you would like the birth, death and burial indexes for Ann Margaret born 1897 let me know and I’ll post them to your in-box (the envelope in the top tight-hand corner of the screen).

I apologise for my late reply. I got volunteered to tile our daughter-in-law's kitchen, which took a little while. Once again, I am extremely grateful for the trouble you went to and the information you have provided. Thank you.

Hi again @Colin Nichol. The 1911 census form filled in by James himself gives the information related to the length of the marriage and the number of children living and dead. I also would assume that St Peters is the burial place of Annie Margaret. However, money was tight in those days so she may be buried in another person's grave as she was so young. It was common practice for an infant to be placed inside the coffin of the next adult to be buried.

Thank you very much, Canny Lass for this information. I appreciate the time you have spent, in answering my plea for help. So, I assume that Annie Margaret is buried in the cemetery of St Peter's Church at West Sleekburn. I have had a look at the web site of Northumberland Archives at Woodhorn but, to be honest, I am not sure how to navigate it. It doesn't seem to accept a person's name as a search criterion. As I said earlier, we live in Sussex, so I can't get to Woodhorn in person. I am intrigued by the mention of another child's death. I knew nothing about this. Can I be cheeky and ask if you have any information, regarding this? Thank you again. Colin

Hi @Colin Nichol Welcome to the forum. The parish of Cambois was originally part of St Cuthbert's, Bedlington, it was a small parish served by the vicar of Sleekburn and a non-stipendiary priest. The Cambois church, St Andrews, is a small church built in 1860. It was formerly the mission church of St Peter's Church, West Sleekburn until it closed in the 1990s. As a mission church it did not have a graveyard so burials took place at St Peter's, West Sleekburn. Cambois, St Peter: Records of baptisms 1865-1936, marriages 1866-1998 and burials 1874-1966 are available at Northumberland Archives Service. P.S.Did you know that James and Mary Alice lost a second child within the first 10 years of their marriage?

I have today discovered that my paternal grandparents (James Nichol and Mary Alice Nichol, nee Snowdon) had their first child (Annie Margaret) on 31st May 1891. Sadly, she did not survive. She was buried in Cambois Cemetery, January 1892. I am 76 now and I cannot get my head around the fact that I didn't know anything about this. I don't know where Cambois Cemetery was in 1892, nor if she even had a headstone. We moved to West Sussex in 1987 (worst thing we ever did), so I can't do any local research. Can anyone please fill in any blanks for me?

Thank you so much for that information @Cannylass. That is very helpful. I'll try that route. Much appreciated. 😊

Hi @BMog Sorry, I don't know what happened above. It just wouldn't let me write or delete anything! Mary's marriage was registered in Durham registration district which includes the city of Durham. This doesn't necessarily mean that she lived - or was married - in the parish of Durham. The Durham registration district had, in 1904 when she married, at least 37 different parishes. Couples usually married in the bride's parish so what you need is a copy of the marriage certificate which you can obtain from the GRO. Many certificates are now digitalized and can be bought as a pdf file - much cheaper than the paper copies. The certificate will give you the address of both Mary and Henry as well the parish in which they married. That will give yo more information to work while trying to find his employer - or place of business if he was self employed. If the latter is correct then you can try the directories and gazettes. Hope this helps. Good luck with your research.

@BMog

Hi there and thank you anyway 😊I know there were Mogerley's in Lancashire. I just wondered who my granddad came over to work for from Germany.

@BMog - don't recall any of the Bedlington members mentioning links to Mogerley family. I searched this site for the name 'Mogerley' but it has never been mentioned before

Hi there, on the topic of German pork butchers, I wondered if there was a Mogerley shop in Durham or near Durham. My grandfather, Heinrich Mogerley was working on a pork butchers when my grandmother, Mary Pratt, came in to buy meat. He went on to marry her and they moved to Ireland and opened their own business. I'm assuming he worked for a family member over there. If anyone has any information I'd be very grateful. Thank you 🙂 Barbara

Thanks Alan have connected.

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"So does Bedlington get a share? if so how much?" £110M is to be set up as a economic regeneration fund. Still asking questions about it.............like will Bedlingtonshire get the Lion's share seeing as its our asset being developed? Been told projects are being worked on which will use this funding but when I asked specifics they were less forthcoming. As far as I'm concerned and I've said this to them......... @worst possible usage in terms of job creations........£10B for around 200 jobs............but if the payback is this £110M then lets see if we can get the 5000 jobs BritishVolt promised out of that! Now I see the Government saying this £150B of new tec and data centre funding just announced will produce 7000 jobs??????? I only believe half of what I see these days and nothing of what I hear!

@Malcolm George Allan - Muriel has send you a friend request on FB

So does Bedlington get a share? if so how much?

Hi I would like to thank Muriel Gordon and Billy Straughan for making the effort of attending the Red Lion on Sunday 14th September the weather was really bad raining cats and dogs, we were joined by Bill Marley a great orator and Terry Dobson old friends of mine along with my best friend from Ipswich Diane. Also Russell Hogg and his mates were an example of Bedlington hospitality as they remembered me by my nick name which I am not going to divulge as I have grown out of that now been a senior citizen. Alan Edgar can you assist me I am trying to contact Muriel Gordon on Facebook but there is a lot of Muriel Gordons in the world if you gave Muriel my Facebook contact for friend it's Malcolm Allan thanks Alan.