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Don't say that! If we don't pull free from the sticky web of elitist cronyism that is the EU this time around, there will be more attempts until we do. And, the next one won't take anything remotely like 41 years! The once-in-a-lifetime nonsense is only in Dodgy Dave's mind. The electorate are absolutely entitled to correct their mistakes, even if that doesn't suit our establishment!

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Hey, the BCOUK logo is missing!

Well we all know where those tree huggers go, but where do the luvvies go? It used to be Labour because it was proletarian fashionable, and that sure paid all around - right wingers would just smile and lefties would lap up the sop. But, where do the Emma Thompsons - those who's lifestyles free them from the consequences of their actions - go now? Let's all hold hands and make the world a better place has been replaced by let's all have a cup of tea with my misunderstood terrorist friends as they really aren't as murdersome as they are painted (except maybe the Jews!). No luvvies with luxury homes on multiple continents are going to go along with that, if only because it's entirely unfashionable, and they might be inconvenienced by the authorities during their peripatetics if they get their names on an international watch list. So, where do they go now, and has Angelina Jolie cornered the market in where they'd all like to be? Thinking about their dilemma I reckon that the luvvies too need a new party, and it could be called the Using celebrity to preach luvviedom to the proles, whilst having no intention of doing anything inconvenient or wealth-draining ourselves party. This would need to be shortened to something trendy like HIP though (Hypocrisy International Party). How about Russell Brand for grand leader? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3527801/Anti-capitalist-Russell-Brand-plans-pool-cinema-3-3million-thatched-cottage.html

Really good find Moe. It doesn't really get on message until about 14 minutes in. Anyone who doesn't see the obviously intended irony in the edit of Corbyn's final words - "Some people are slower learners than others" - is clearly a Corbyn voter! I think the core problem for Labour is that the vast majority of the electorate isn't as simple-minded as their current leader, and that many of those who are will grow up at some point! We learn that he's a total gift to Tory Central, and that this extends to his team. Their anticipated response to their PM's QT question, and what Dodgy Dave came back with shows their reality gap. It was put down to a mole in the Labour camp rather than they hadn't actually thought things through to their logical conclusion. Against that sort of self-delusion Gordo's "it's a global problem" starts to sound convincing. The looks of disappointment on their faces, and the teary emotionalism when things didn't work out as they believed they must, is all an intelligent voter needs to know about a prospective Corbyn government.

Even if they are traced (and compos) the old you can take a horse to water adage still applies. Grade 2 is actually a cop out!

A Grade 2 listing actually means that the state wants it preserved, but hasn't any money to do this; so... it tries hard to push the responsibility on to the legal owner. Believe me, I KNOW!

Yes, yes, but have you reviewed that (EU funded) research report into how the odds correlate with beer residue thickness. That "accidental" spillage could easily be a cynical plot to massively shift the odds, and so end democracy as we know it.

You aren't confusing Reading with Bedders are you? Easy mistake, I know!

Here, people don't have cats - cats have people. The cats that own our land trade in rodents - which they leave just outside the door - for food. They are country cats, not really domesticated, and certainly not stupid. The three kittens who were born here stick around a lot more than the adult cats, who obviously get fed elsewhere too. There's always some cats at feeding time demanding food, but you can never predict exactly how many will turn up.

...or a US Nickel: The physicists/mathematicians seem to believe that the surface is very important to the model, and so is the energy with which it is thrown (more bounces give a much higher probability). So... I sure wouldn't bet on that figure!

Do the electorate even know what will benefit the nation, and what will benefit themselves? Right wingers would tend to say that they are one and the same thing (they mostly believe in enlightened self-interest). The referendum is simple: Remain isn't really Remain, it's further and deeper before you even know it. As just about everyone on both sides agrees that the EU doesn't work well, then logically even more of the same can only be worse. Leave just wants you and your descendants to continue to have a real vote, and not a pretend vote for a pretend parliament. Anyone voting "Remain" has to believe the politician's promises that:

Yes, it's goes on a bit; I watched it when half asleep in the early hours one night. I think its politics are well to the left, but you can't fault the general message. Paxo's recent one on the BBC delivered the same sort of message through his traditionalist Tory glasses. Hilarious to hear the squeals of bias about it from the Guardinistas! Everyone vote on everything was my take when I was at school, but it won't work because then the process is open to small militant groups hijacking decisions through the general boredom that will prevail after a while. You've only got to look at how Corbyn got elected: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/aug/20/labour-membership-jeremy-corbyn-purge With the internet those sorts of things are now much easier to organise, and never rule out the ingenuity of the opposition. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/politics-blog/11680016/Why-Tories-should-join-Labour-and-back-Jeremy-Corbyn.html So, I don't think there is a real alternative to some form of representative democracy, but without the right of recall the ruling classes are always going to have the upper hand, and are going to fight right of recall proposals all the way. Like most things in life it's getting the balance just right. Carswell's ideas certainly deserve a listen here. I think the really important thing is where policy comes from. There's only one party where it comes directly from the members, but power corrupts and it's essential that Ukip members firmly lock this down. The ultimate in anti-democracy is of course the EU, where no one really knows where policy comes from - the take-home message of that film (except they explicitly indicate it really comes from international capital, and aren't too wrong!).

Try condescension - because you have before! The converse of your claim about your friends in the pub: if you knew me you'd know that was entirely untrue too.

My ignorance about exactly what? I said probably based on clear statistics - once again you try to personalise things! You can only take the Ashington/Bedlington dichotomy so far; the evidence shows that there are still very significant numbers of Bedlington people whose political awareness is more in tune with the first half of the 20th century that the 21st! But, if you are saying that our unwilling pairing with Ashington is a huge drag, then I'm in 100% agreement. I'm not going to point up the obvious self-contradictions in the rest. If you are "turned-off" then please do turn off, and start a thread about something that turns you on! If this interests me I will join in, but if it doesn't there'll be no expression of sour grapes, or personalised attacks, from here!

Everything which affects our lives today is done from behind a mask. Now you know the what of TTIP learn about the why:

On Saturday the bookies drastically shortened their odds on Dodgy Dave not lasting the year out, but they're still way out. Their book should actually be on will he last June out, because there's zero chance that either of the dodgy duo will last 2016 out! In order to restore credibility whoever replaces him must take another look at his dodgy deals, and I'm not just talking about the pretend EU renegotiation. There's also his stitch up with the BBC bosses to let them off the hook for another 11 years if they play his game, and the other quid pro quos with the civil service, merchant banks, and international big business. An inquiry into how the civil service became so deeply involved in deceiving the public is in order. And, If five former chancellors all say the Treasury has been feeding the public total BS, that is something which can't be ignored.

Far left on far left attack when a German party leader tries to propose a figure for a cap on immigration! Almost needless to say the militant leftie got his way, and the party quickly distances itself from the leader's cruel proposal that there should be any limit on migrants to the EU. All part of the insane asylum (are you still allowed to say that?) that our politicos have signed us up to. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/29/german-mp-slapped-in-the-face-with-chocolate-cake-over-stance-on/

The real question for them to ponder is: can Dodgy Dave survive long enough to hand them their gongs? Live: David Cameron facing leadership coup as Tory MP calls for him to go live on TV This is working against him now, as when you are certain you are going to get the chop for speaking your mind traditional party niceties go out of the window - it's kill Dave or be killed time! Enjoy the spectacle of the Tory party disintegrating as you'll never see anything like it ever again - except from Labour!

I think your mates in the pub probably switched off long before the referendum. That a crook, blustering con-man, and utter ignoramus - one regularly who votes for autogenocide of our nation AND the interests of international capitalism - should poll over 19,000 votes, whilst a miner's daughter who offers real change could only get 7000 (and likely most of those from disaffected Tories in Morpeth) doesn't say much for their political awareness, or appreciation of the issues. Fortunately the referendum ISN'T FPTP, so engaged and informed people don't get drowned out by the general apathy.

Some of the biggest lies in the referendum campaign are being told by George Osborne: http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/674792/proof-Britain-will-not-lose-trade-deals-leave-EU-Chancellor-George-Osborne Except - as the eminent lawyers confirm in their report - that's lying nonsense. No further negotiation is necessary as following a Brexit everything carries on as before until WE decide differently.

With the obvious exception of this one! You are entitled to switch off; but there are many many people who don't appreciate all the issues, and others are entitled to campaign for their support. It's called democracy; if you want to end it then vote for the salami-slicing antidemocratic EU, and let the Euro-elites do all your thinking for you. It was a good 1000 years - whilst it lasted!

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/26/plans-to-create-an-eu-army-kept-secret-from-voters/ It's right there in yesterday's passionately Remain-supporting EU-friendly Times people; what, exactly, do the deniers not understand?