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The one Ronnie wants us to watch!

I was generalising such acts there; it's not the time to talk about the specifics here because we don't know all the facts, nevertheless tell me where did I say any other than that Mair is undoubtedly "unhinged"? I'd agree with you that they are all spinning it in their own way whilst pretending not to be, and that's unseemly. Here I wouldn't exclude her husband from that observation. He has a right to be distraught and say a few silly things, but from what I've heard so far he's systematically politicising the tragedy.

An "anti-terrorist squad" is involved these days if you park on double white lines. We must be seen to be doing something isn't just a politician's disease. When someone like that performs an extreme act it's because they've misread the social signals of others, often from the fringes. The entire group feels it's the only way, but no one but the loner will act, and when it happens the rest will distance themselves from it. How can you identify which individual will act - well of course you can't, and neither can the police, but they are expected to. The cause isn't the availability of weapons, or a (temporary?) mental state of one individual. It's not even the existence of the group, but the reason for the existence of the group. The group will only exist if there are social pressures demanding it, so it comes back to those who create or allow those social conditions to persist. And... hey presto... that's clueless politicians! So there's likely not a huge chasm between Mair's distorted thinking and hard reality - though he obviously wouldn't be reasoning it from that angle.

And, the one which takes its justification from the other: http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/680969/Manchester-machete-fight-Moston-police Seems a Union Jack was involved .. fill in the dots . It's not a "well of hate" it's mutual stupidity! The prize for this goes to the elites who benefit from mass immigration in many ways themselves, and aren't remotely inconvenienced by it. Unskilled and unemployed native people feel powerless seeing their country occupied, and the elites quote massaged statistics at them, and demand an intellectualised response! Glory be! Likely time to do it the French way and "prune the top of the tree" comme un avertissement pour les autres! Intolerance breeds intolerance, and you can be just as intolerant mouthing off your pet theories of how the world should be, without considering its impact on the status quo, and the people you're been put there to represent, as you can joining a reactionary extremist group. Nutter Mair took one life, but has anyone even put an approximate figure on how many lives Tony Blair's conscientious interventions reaped? When the price of salving your conscience paid in other people's lives, it's undoubtedly better to go through life with a somewhat grubby one.

‘Better late than never.’ Source: http://www.spectator.co.uk/comic/trump-4/

Maybe you need to apply that same extrapolation method to the immigration figures too? Anyway, if you are even half right in relation to the actual poll, my forecast is that in the 2020 GE Ukip will win 400+ seats, and there won't be a second referendum because that will be an implicit mandate to revoke the European Communities Act 1972. One thing is totally certain: whatever it takes and however it pans out, we will be out of the EU within a decade; so it might just as well be now, when it's less painful.

Well... they aren't going to, are they? All we get served up is this facile crap like "fighting" a "well of hate". Where do Cameron and Corbyn suppose this "well of hate" is lurking, if not in the mind of a lone crazed individual already in custody. The star prize for inane drivel must go - once again - to Gordo. Well Gordon, it HAS happened in Britain before; it DID happen in Britain yesterday; and precisely how do you propose that it will never again happen? Your other automated response: "it's a global problem" would have been more telling, though of no more avail. Our politicians need to learn that when there's nothing of use to be said, they do have the option of not saying anything. A simple shake of the head is all it takes.

Maybe someone should have pointed out to him the essential irony in buying "FREE SPEECH" publications on the very same order as he bought the plans for making a gun!

Where, where , where????

I'd imagine that any ancient civilisation who employed the wheel, or even used log rollers, could claim some origination by throwing down a couple of lengths of wood on boggy ground. I'm talking about the practical deployment of course, and in particular the revolutionary flanged rail which now spans the world. And, when continental rail museums have Bedlington locomotives (or copies thereof) proudly displayed as firsts, and we don't even have a bloomin' picture on display anywhere in the town, and seem intent on belittling our own heritage, it's a rather poor show! Stratford on Avon has built an entire industry out of a local hick who didn't even spell his name the same as the actual guy, and illustrates him by a fictitious bust that was sneaked into the local church under cover of darkness in fairly recent times. Our history has real substance, and our connections to the Stephensons irrefutable. Nope, it's not just the politics, it's a total lack of imagination as to the possibilities! If it's a squiggly red line then right click on it and add it to your local dictionary.

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Thomas Mair: Man arrested in connection with attack on Jo Cox was 'a quiet loner who kept himself to himself'

TT? It won't make the BBC until the Guardian has approved it as entirely PC! There's probably a now rapidly-filling tray marked Hold until 24th June. Actually, not all BBC news editors are beyond the pale, but the bad has tended to drive out the fair-minded. It's a bit like posting comments on the BBC website: you rapidly learn that you are wasting your time and what actually appears is only a what they want to hear. Anything remotely criticising the BBC itself, no matter how politely it is phrased, will be ruthlessly deleted under the flimsiest of excuses, or otherwise consigned to a moderation committee where it will languish for ages until it is no longer topical.

The Swiss applied to join the EU 24 years ago. Since then they've become less and less convinced that it was the right thing to do, but have left their application on the table just in case circumstances changed and/or the people had a change of heart. They even agreed to be part of Schengen, but two years ago asked Brussels to allow them to set immigration quotas to protect their public services and standard of living. Their polite and earnest request was turned down flat by Merkel and her cronies. That's about the time they decided they'd had enough, but didn't do anything much about it at that time. Well... in a beautifully timed move just seven days before our referendum, they've told the EU to consider their application withdrawn; that it can forget that Switzerland ever applied to join, and that they are utterly set on being an "independent sovereign nation". This is designed to hit the EU at the most embarrassing time, and also send a hearty message to British voters. At least half of Europe (including 61% of the French) are hoping we are going to give the Eurocrats what they've been asking for for over 30 years, and we mustn't disappoint them. We're part of a great continent that is being trashed by its political elites, and a continent that once again desperately needs our leadership. We are never listened to in Brussels, and our sincere and well reasoned reform proposals are always outvoted. It's no wonder that Cameron got nowhere with his watered down proposals, and ended up dropping five of his nine "lines in the sand" and neutering the other four. But, we CAN exert very powerful "influence" for the reform that Cameron is always going on about through our referendum result. In fact a Brexit vote will shock Brussels to its very core; it will then have no option but to start listening to real European citizens, and not the international business lobby groups who currently pull all the strings. Don't fall for the simplistic lie that a Leave vote is being a "little Englander". Amongst other valuable things a Leave vote is being a responsible and caring European - just like our Swiss friends! Love Europe -- Hate the EU -- Help Europeans -- Vote Leave

Oh, clean forgot: don't like that song. Try this great one instead (and note the lyrics).

So, you tossed a coin? You know what the REAL difference between this referendum and the 1975 one is? In 1975 we all thought Ted Heath was telling us the truth, but the truth didn't actually cross his lips until a candid moment a decade or more later. Then everyone had an excuse for being fooled, and the people who voted against were probably only voting for the status quo - always understandable. This time around we all know Cameron is a serial liar (even his own party tell us that), and it has just been revealed what a vindictive little sod Osborne is! They are both running true to their record of being the Eaton school bullies. So, youngsters still have the naivety defence to fall back on, but us olduns have no such excuse. What's more, anyone who thinks the status quo is on offer this time around is seriously deluded. They'll be a lot wiser - not in the next decade this time, but before the year is out! Hopefully all the tossed coins will average out, and I (and others) will be cruelly deprived of our told-you-so moment.

Better still if we - very rightly - claimed to be home of the railways too! This one (like Daniel Gooch and the Transatlantic Cable) has been overshadowed by partisan politics for far too long!

Why would you be confused? The truth is the truth wherever it comes from, and I've never questioned Tony's sincerity. There were many Hampstead -residing, champagne (do what I say not what I do) socialists visiting Bedlington in election years, but Tony was a regular, and steadfastly came because he believed and actually cared, never to simply canvas votes. I quite respected little George Brown too, despite his obvious problem. We've still got a few conviction politicians left (like David Owen, who I now greatly admire), but, otherwise than a few senior Ukippers (who certainly aren't doing it for the money or even the glory), they're a rapidly dying breed.

Why remain Eggy?! Have you caught a bad case of "let's all hold hands and make Europe a better place"? That only works if you are on the Euro Gravy Train, and that particular service doesn't run through the North East and never will.

Having watched the truly baffling performance of Gordon Brown in Glasgow recently Gordo is my own choice.

Do the police generally hand out three page lists of bye-laws, or did some councillor or council official come primed with a long list of possible excuses intent on selecting the most convenient one as cover for their intended purpose? Amazing that our otherwise perceptive CL didn't see this in the video!

It could be as it's a link - I will capture it for you.

That's great, then please revisit your entirely disinterested comments in the light of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Reckless does this meet with your wish for official endorsement on the issue, or should we hold out for the result of Chilcot to see if it gets a mention there?

Opening shot: 3 police though one might have been council official. (no turbans or policewomen) 1:26: Two or three police. 1:31: One police (one with turban) plus a rather threatening policeman or council official. 1:35: Policeman with turban again, plus policewoman. 1:38 ditto. 1:40 ditto. 2:02 Three police officials obviously pressuring "GO" stall which clearly isn't causing any traffic or pedestrian obstruction. 2:22 Two police again, with Remain stall not being harassed. It would appear that the prime motivator here was a councillor and his officials, and that the police were only doing what they were asked to do by the council. I know from practical experience how amazingly camera shy our police can be, and these don't appear to be exceptional in that respect. If I said something like "there is something about that video which doesn't quite ring true" you'd have derided my lack of hard evidence. Yet, here you display a baffling degree of criticality for someone who otherwise offers excuses for (and clearly sides with those who wish to turn a blind eye to) mass sex crimes! "I have no interest one way or the other." Oh, I think you surely do!