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Most of the time duplicitous politicians need to be treated with the contempt they deserve (I'm looking at you Duplicitous Dave!), but just sometimes their duplicity serves the public interest. An interesting case is the current utterance by Guernsey's chief minister... Not Mr Le Tocq's "negativity" of course, he's fully at ease with the religion of peace, but it simply wouldn't be in Muslim's own best interests to be exposed to less considerate elements on the island. Do I applaud him for this? Well, that would be going too far, but even this seeker after shameless truth does understand that in any society some "little white lies" are necessary for social cohesion. There's obviously a significant minority on the island who will only face up to the consequences of Islamisation when they are staring the irreversible reality of their folly fully in the face; getting yourself unelected is no way to protect those particular electors from their own delusions.

Ah, the Schroedinger Uncertainty Pick-sical? Nope, Albie didn't buy into any of that puss-e-cat nonsense. Surely he claimed "God does not play dice with picked noses"? Though... I can't state that with any certainty.

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So, once again the European Court overrules inter-government agreements. And here, not being in Schengen is acting against our interests rather than providing us with the alleged cushion. Zero hope then for EUroCam being allowed to hang onto any minor crumbs now thrown to him by other EU governments! But of course he knows that, and once the referendum is out of the way he can resume expressing outrage and surprise before caving in completely. We've been here before over the "surprise" £1.7bn demand from Brussels, and all the false outrage and posturing before paying the bill in a more convoluted way.

..and.. I though this might be a mention of just how well 'canny' Iceland was doing since leaving the EU! Now be reasonable here! If the American political parties and their politically appointed senior judiciary put bankers in jail it would kill the symbiotic relationship. Jail is for really serious offences like sticking up a drug store for ten bucks; lining your own pockets with hundreds of millions shouldn't even count as a misdemeanour.

We all want "the betterment of mankind and the world in general", the disagreement is in exactly what that would look like! And... that's where "personal agendas" come in. Seems to me the real delusion is that if you keep on electing the same people with the same outdated ideas then somehow sometime things will change. Einstein put it more generally:

Hit the [Discussion] tab and look for Popular Contributors up top right. If you don't see this it's because your screen is too small - use a computer or tablet. Nice to see we now have a jockeying for position.

Yes Maggie, it's good to take your ideas on morality from the Guardian. It's the right kind of morality, and having pseudo-intellectuals doing your thinking for you removes the risk of falling into morality traps. If you are a state broadcaster it even saves having to write the manual. Are those students at Oriel College "extremely serious creatures"? They're extremely serious about being over-indulged, and serious about their feelings of victimisation (but actually only Guardian readers need take them seriously). I'm not a huge Chris Patten fan, but it sounds like Oxford has the right man for the "job". If you are quick you might just catch a play called Utopia on iPlayer. It needs to be part of all those Oriel students courses.

Comes as a bit of a shock. Another part of our culture takes a hit!

You mean just like the Northumberland all-party Leave.eu campaign Maggie? Based in Bedlington of course!!! http://leave.eu/en/local-groups/group/northumberland-leaveeu National membership is now well over 450,000, and it's growing by the hour. National website and new member registration at leave.eu

So, exactly the opposite of SNP claims! Well... the SNP got the world oil price so right too! So, as the referendum approaches we can expect more and more alarmist nonsense from those who will really lose out: global business, the political elites, and in particular euro politicians.

Preventing hotlinking (Inline linking) is relatively easy and fairly common, preventing determined copying is near impossible. I suspect this is probably a "user problem" or a browser problem. More information needed. <insert blurb about copyright infringement, and reasonable/academic reuse>

Hmmm... I can't see a problem. I saved that to my W10 desktop first, and then clicked on ", or choose files..." It could be The Guardian is protecting their graphics from direct linking?

OK I understand, this problem is forum specific then.

I will check this forum permissions shortly Foxy, but no one has complained before and I don't think they have been touched for years. BTW I've raised a few (unrelated) issues about the display of images in the gallery with Andy, and I'm told that fixes are already on the way.

Oooo touchy!! I may have linked to the DM at some point, but I'm certainly not a DM reader. And, you haven't read what I wrote, else you would have read straight through my remark about the inevitability of Islamic domination. It likely won't happen, but in process the wooly-minded left is going to forfeit our democracy, and much innocent blood will be spilled. The level of migrancy into Europe is totally unsustainable, and the myth that it is economically beneficial for the indigenous people is an outright lie. There's far more to it than simple economics though, and an ever increasing number of Europeans feel totally betrayed by "out of touch" politicos. You are either with your own people or against them. I stand firmly with them, and anyone who is prepared to defend an internationalist view of the world that's set upon erasing national identity and cultures is a cultural Marxist patsy in my book. Sure there are excesses on the right, but its not action it's pure reaction, and your over-simplistic view fails to take into account the why! The left right dichotomy is no longer valid; international capital and Marxist forces are working to common purpose, ably backed by our political elites. You surely won't accept this (yet!) but your view of things is completely outdated; it's a view forced on you by so-called political correctness, and coldly-calculated appeals to humanitarian instincts. Apply the Roman doctrine of cui bono to see through your mental haze!

I think that even Guardinistas are grudgingly accepting that Nigel's remarks about pressure on our resources are dodgy material for ridicule these days, so I think you are perhaps embarrassingly behind the curve there. Last night someone told me that they'd just been reading the Guardian comments section and had to double check that they were on the right website - it was starting to sound uncannily similar to the Torygraph, at least on the EU. Maybe there's even hope for Polly Toynbee. Of course it's no longer about "immigration"; people are really concerned about uncontrolled economic mass migrancy. The Internet and cheap technology has given this an entirely new dimension. It's a dimension the EU mandarins are only just starting to wake up to, and which will inevitably force politicos of all persuasions to confront. Blaming things on so called neo-nazis won't work for much longer either CL. There are only a minuscule number of right wing agitators, but they are filling a leadership gap which has been exited by double-talking professional politicians. The real societal damage is coming from the extreme left. Their agenda is to use uncontrolled mass migrancy to overthrow existing orders with the super-simplistic idea that out of total chaos will come a new world order. Any mature person knows that this isn't going to happen, but what will happen is that people will rally around those who provide order at the price of complete forfeiture of democratic rights. i think I've said this before, but if we continue down the mass immigration path we'll see this country under military dictatorship, because the public will see that as preferable to extreme left-wing lunacy, or an inevitable Islamisation. The same forces are at work in other parts of Europe too, and who knows just where that will lead. We need to decouple from European politics really fast and try to lead by example based on a foundation of strong world trade. Once we concede our independent seat at the WTO, and our seat on the UN Security Council, that will become so much more difficult - but this is exactly where Cameron is leading us at a rate of knots!

"other nationality" was your words: it means whatever you want it to mean. The Benefits Street I have here was filmed on James Taylor Street, Birmingham, but there was a series filmed in Stockton, which I've not yet bothered with. Your Swedish friends are probably only being prescient: it's a foretaste of Corbynite Britain. What's really amusing about it is the fact that the "star" Dee was paraded at the Tory party conference to prove EUCams credentials as a champion of err... working people. Then came the inevitable fallout with Torydom, and the threat to join Ukip - which in fact would have been the last party to let her stand for parliament. Isn't she in clink now on drugs offences? In any case it was filmed before the current EU inspired mass economic migration round, at a time when we were all kidding ourselves we could cope. Ah, yes, let's debate providing that no ideas are floated that seriously challenge my/our self-delusion. That's the "debate" of the Labour Party (and they are surprised it got them Corbyn!), and the debate process of the EU. That's not actually debate, it's an illusion of debate, and an illusion of democracy. I'd advance that as a modern replacement for "Nation shall speak peace unto nation".

It's generally unwelcome, but they need to subsist, so generally you can't reject their attentions and pay them. The really pushy ones get told to lose themselves though, and then it becomes very clear that they expect a totally free ride on the European economy. "Other nationalities" don't harbour large numbers of activists who's hidden agenda is to takeover the world, and move civilisation back to the middle ages. "Other nationalities" respect the immigration laws of their chosen countries. "Other nationalities" mostly have real skills to contribute that don't depress the wages of the most needy in the host country. "Other nationalities" aren't being used as tools by the SWP and other enemies within.

At least they will be genuine signatures. The Corbyn machine has a whole industry working on them; how do you think he hijacked the Labour Party? They've nullified the BBC consultation too and cost the taxpayer £250,000 in the process. 177.000 of the replies (92%) were cooked up by leftie zombies or their bots to a pre-written script. The aim is to provide an illusion that a majority welcome the left-wing takeover of BBC output.

BTW if you want to know what is happening in the Med, well.. apart for the ever increasing string of sinkings and drowning tragedies reported... all the local illegals have simply b'd off! In fact they'd become so much part of life here the place isn't quite the same. For the first time in years you don't get your supermarket trolley snatched and pushed for you. Seems like they all got Mrs Merkel's invite and headed North whilst the door was still open. Some nice guys amongst them anyone would trust, but many who already have a chip on their shoulder too. They've all got their smartphones and are reporting back to immigrant central where the best benefits are to be had, so I guess Sweden will still be on the list. The people who compute these things say it will be an astonishing four million when the weather improves. Post me some visiting cards and I will hand them out for you - I'm serious!

I didn't even know about this one until tonight and there are TWO weeks left for EUCam to get his reforms, so five weeks is easily enough for purpose. And if you want to know how the awakening British public really feels look no further than the EU apologetic Independent: EU referendum: Majority of UK public wants 'Brexit', poll reveals Which, of course, is completely at odds with what the BBC has been telling us for over a year. And is just as well, as if they hadn't believed their own propaganda we simply wouldn't have been getting a referendum that EUCam didn't think he wasn't going to walk. Current EU position: Blind Panic!

No, you don't see the word immigrant mentioned do you. The journos are pretty scared to go there. Have a REAL look at what is happening in your adopted country at the moment. At some point the rose coloured spectacles have to come off. Try this one for a start, but there are hundreds more Europe wide (all obviously only isolated incidents). 'She was an angel' First pictures of woman stabbed to death 'by migrant' at refugee centre Actually Sweden the Islamic terrorism hasn't actually started yet. You've got that to come!

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/105863 Provide a little help to EUCam in his "renegotiation"; you know he really needs our help!