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https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/119328 As Boris says: Americans wouldn't accept EU restrictions – so why should we?

Back to the subject of this thread. NIGHTMARE for Merkel: Leader humiliated as Germany sends a crushing message in polls

Haven't we had to stomach enough political projects parcelled up as commercially viable when they're clearly not? HS2 is following the well worn path of government promoted schemes which never deliver, and end up being an expensive national embarrassment. Time to cancel it before it becomes a huge burden to the taxpayer. If we are to do it with taxpayers money then we should be honest and recognise that it is a political project, start construction from an ill-served area of the country, or perhaps as a high speed connection between our two capital cities. Joining Edinburgh and Newcastle as an initial stage would be far less costly, and all the technical problems would be discovered before they become really burdensome and disruptive. Grand gesture politics should start with low-risk grand gestures, and not with deceptions.

And, one of the biggest of Dave's lies of omission is his doctored immigration figures:

Dave's grasp of British history:

Now that all rational argument has failed, Dave's sole strategy to bind us irrevocably to the evil empire seem to be to get as many "celebrity endorsements" as he can muster. This involves using all the levers of power to pressure the pressurable (that's easily 90% of the establishment sell-outs), and adding a sprinkling of names who've never even consented for luck. That voters can think for themselves and no longer need the elites to tell them what they must do, doesn't factor in his calculations. It is after all a numbers game, and his Oxford PPE course had that well covered. Come on - wasn't too big a lie I told for Dave! Boris didn't do PPE. Though he rubbed shoulders with Dave at Oxford he's a classics scholar. He can think a couple of moves ahead of Dave and proved that at Oxford where Dave was an also-ran. The buffoonery is all assumed - something that Guardianistas simply can't get their heads around - and he does not go in for spin. When the facts don't suit his argument Boris is sensible enough to keep his mouth shut; offer a distraction; or gently shape his argument more toward fact. In a word, he's a pragmatist against Dave's well earned "Flashman" moniker. Boris knows about patriotism, Dave has no sense of Country, little appreciation of history, and is clueless about how ordinary citizens feel. There is very little ground between Duplicitous Dave and Teflon Tony - they are essentially mirror images. Why do I offer the above insights? It's because someone rubbished an earlier statement that Boris would make an infinitely better PM than Dave. Once again I'd stress that I'm not a Boris supporter, but I am pragmatist too, and it's the art of the possible folks! Anyone who disagrees must offer an alternative leader who can nominally unite our country, and looking at the present crowd they are going to struggle badly there. In the mean time We Want Our Country Back, so the choice between someone who is perfectly happy to give it away to a historic enemy that has got every big decision in history terribly wrong, and someone who has some sense of history and his feet firmly planted on the ground is a total no-brainer.

Working now. I think it was killed by a software update.

It's around about this time the camera connection was scheduled to be transferred away from BT to ANOTHER. I will enquire. BT wouldn't provide a fixed IP without a ridiculous surcharge.

Well... I'm now outed - but It's her brain Malc, not her body. When she's had the operation to connect it to her mouth you'll be sorry!

Cast your mind back to 1st January 2014 and those two Labour MPs standing at the airport to meet and greet the single Romanian "car washer" on the first flight in. A great PR stunt by Labour, but in the context of what has happened since the joke is on them, not on the people who accurately predicted a migrancy crisis, and were the subject of the mockery. There's some good jokes to be had about Turkey right now, but for some strange reason the left is no longer keen on striking at the empty goal.

Easy to see why she never uses her married name - far too adjectival! Anyway, conclusive proof that the good people of Morley must have far higher IQs than Pontefract folk. But... oh dear... that's somewhere us Wansbeck people shouldn't be venturing - just yet!

Here's a balanced explanation of why big business backs Remain, and most small to medium sided business doesn't, from a city economist who has no particular axe to grind either way. Five minutes reading this will likely be more illuminating than many hours of TV "debate". http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/03/06/exactly-why-is-big-business-so-in-favourof-the-eu/ For those who have an aversion to links: the takeaway points are that the EU depresses wages, a fact already blurted out by Remain campaign boss Stuart Rose in one of his too-honest-for-his-own-campaign moments. Also, that the drop in Sterling is a blessing in disguise, and that it's what Dave's puppet, BoE Governor Mark Carney, should be trying to achieve - if only he wasn't so busy dancing to Dave's tune and issuing all sorts of idiotic warnings. Carney been wildly wrong in just about every other calculation so far, so has now set himself on course for an entirely unbroken record. All we need now is a rational explanation of why comrade Corbyn backs policies that indisputably force the wages of UK workers down. All his passionate speeches against the EU have recently been expunged from his website. I'm not going to waste anyone's time speculating precisely why, but feel free to offer your own explanation.

Of course, but that doesn't preclude an element of truth, and it's in the best tradition of Jewish humour. On the flipside the stoical denial of creeping Islamification - being equally absurd - also has an element of humour.

I think that once you are prepared to tolerate people losing their jobs for what they believe in you are creating a sick society. The left is very quick to point out intolerance in others but is always prepared to turn a blind eye whenever "the ends justify the means". Therein lies Stalinism. If you can't make your case by argument and have to resort to intrigue then you most probably have no case. Cameron has no case, and the same is now true for Corbyn - but just at the moment Corbyn is keeping very quiet and letting Cameron and his big business cronies do Labour's dirty work. It's dirty work because what they are all about is against the interests of the people who put them where they are, and is predicated on lies. You asked!

A year might not be deliverable Eggy! GERMANY BANS SAUSAGES: Pork banned in cafes and schools to 'not offend refugees'

The plot thickens! There's an "interesting" transcript of a phone call to Dave's lair on the Torygraph site. Thing is this is just one of very many favours Dave has been calling in in his increasing desperation. If the truth were known about what was being said (well, not actually said, these things are hinted at) the resulting scandal would shine so powerful a light on how this country is really run that calls for constitutional change would become deafening.

Hadn't you noticed Maggie? It's no longer about a "State of War between the parties" it's a State of War within the parties. It's a war between the Internationalist Elites with their hands on all the levers of power, propaganda and misinformation, and the Proles! Read the prophet of these sad times, George Orwell. Whoops, I feel a link coming on! No no, I'm resisting.... At the current time you can throw in fear, "uncertainty", and doubt (of our country's abilities and place in the world) as tools of that control.

It's looking like this is going to badly backfire on the do-anything claim-anything Eurofanatics! Longworth wasn't exactly a strong outer, but he's now concluded that it's the only way. Politico-speak: BoJo isn't sad about it at all. But the gifts to the OUT campaign just keep on coming. Every time IN campaign chairman Rose opens his mouth there's a gift too - Remain needs to replace him or completely gag him!

Ah, yes, it all comes back to me now. Queen Elizabeth fancied an Indian takeaway so Walt thought he'd try out a new short cut by going the other way around. He sailed up to Manhattan, and the silly fellow thought he'd arrived in India. When they inexplicably refused his credit card he had to trade beads for those strange looking chapatis and papadums. Without proper spices, well of course it would all be inedible when he got back! Easy to appreciate why she threw her glass of Coke over him; even the corgis turned their noses up at the stuff! Thus (without the royal endorsement) pizza took a good while to catch on. History is so interesting I don't know why they no longer do the real thing in schools these days.

I'm currently experimenting with Android browsers to see which is the easiest to use here with a view to a recommendation. It's immediately clear that the stock Android browser can easily be bettered on speed. Currently Dolphin seems the most popular download. It's true that it's both friendly and fast, the big downer is that it doesn't appear to work at all with Live! I will report the results of my testing on this thread, but any other input would be very helpful.

Hmmm... you believe all that Eggy? Next thing someone will pop up to claim that Sir Walter Raleigh didn't actually bring pizza back from America!

Do Greggs even want to be in the EU? Having met the senior members of the family when they were looking for their first Bedlington shop I'd guess that they'd say the same as most small to medium sided UK business. i.e. they can manage perfectly well without it, thank you! There's very likely similar enterprises in Germany and all points East. They will each cater for varying national tastes. We need to celebrate such differences, else what would be the point of going on holiday (OK, there's the weather! ), not homogenise them away with top-down regulation, and the likes of TTIP. The only people who benefit from this are international corporations who can exploit both producers in poorer countries, and then milk consumers in richer countries. And... dare I say it, but your fave phone megacorporation is one of the very worst offenders here! Links to non-Guardian/non-BBC articles on request!

Francois Hollande is seldom right about anything, but yesterday's veiled threat was dead on the money, even if his interpretation was skewed. As Duplicitous Dave pulls all the strings of power anyone who tells the truth does so at the risk of their career. Today's casualty is the Director General of the British Chambers of Commerce. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/12184219/Business-chief-suspended-after-coming-out-in-favour-of-Brexit.html In a just world the casualty should be Dave himself. Several of his recent pronouncements about the status of our still great Country vividly illustrate that he's totally unfit to lead it. Fortunately the great majority of the Tory party have recently arrived at the same conclusion. So, whatever the outcome of the referendum he's OUT, and certainly not at a time of his own choosing.

Ah, that's an easy one! Answer: They are not in UK Waters, they are in EU Waters fishing EU fish. And... why are you complaining as the EU has ensured that we no longer have any sort of recognisable fishing industry anyway? That's unlike little Norway where a real democracy has stubbornly maintained independence (and one of the highest living standards in the world). And yes, the politicians there tried their very own Project Fear - but it still leaves more than 70% of the population unimpressed.

This is true, but what is the basis of this in international law? We are told that the UK Border has been relocated there. At least we are told this for the purposes of Dave's Project Fear. Another interesting question is if it's a "service" then who is it serving? It can't be serving British citizens as there is no legal requirement for them to have a passport to enter the UK. A UK Passport is a missive addressed to foreign governments. Her Majesty doesn't go in for writing letters to herself! Entering the UK is the constitutional right of every British citizen.