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Now that all Duplicitous Dave's other lies have been exposed there's a fall-back on the Project Fear staple of Kent being overrun with illegal immigrants. I've never heard a convincing argument as to why our other points of entry don't have immigrant camps surrounding them, and why turning illegals around wherever won't work, but, from one of Dave's minions here's the devastating logic that proves his case: Apparently, YES, we CAN turn immigrants around when they set foot on UK territory BUT - and we are expected to believe it's a BIG BIG BUT - once they reach the UK they can claim asylum, and it's is oh so difficult to disprove false claims here. So difficult that we simply have to let them in! Now here's my question(s): If for legal purposes we have UK Border signs up at Calais with desks manned by UK officials, surely for legal purposes that must be the err... UK Border? If it isn't the UK Border then someone is BSing someone and a challenge in the international courts from some bunch of do-gooder lawyers or other "no borders" group is going to be a breeze. Doubtless when this happens the Westminster elites will express outrage that we've been thwarted again, and cave to international law in the well established pattern. The lawyers will get even richer, but nothing will actually be done. What precisely is the difference between the same UK Border sign (manned by the same UK agency) at a UK airport or ferry terminal and the same sign erected near the entrance to the channel tunnel on ostensibly French territory? Does this mean that all the international law about embassies being the sovereign territory of the state they represent is a sham? If so why don't our police just tramp in to the London Venezuelan one and arrest Julian Assange instead of throwing our hard-earned tax money at the problem they have created? If I'm wrong about this then the logical conclusion is that UK officials have no right to be exercising powers of entry or exit to the UK on French soil and one can simply brush past them, as under international law they are acting illegally. The reality seems to be that the answer to these questions is whatever suits Dave's Project Fear at any given instant. It's rather apt that some are comparing him to a used-car salesman, but that must surely be a slur on the integrity of used-car salesmen everywhere!
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Oh dear! That did not refer to her religion (I have no information she's a practising Jew, and I guess probably not), but simply to her origins. It's still allowed to refer to someone's origins in our terminally PC society you know! We have rather a lot of Jewish lawyers, but I'm sure that the vast majority of them have as much loyalty to their country of adoption as I do, and possibly even more. This one clearly doesn't, and is likely "of the internationalist Jewish school of thought". That's precisely what it has to do with it. Or.. in words even the labelling, unthinking, left can understand: Jewish Karl Marx bad; Jewish Groucho Marx good! Jewish-Brit Benjamin Disraeli a hero; Jewish-Internationalist Ed Miliband an utter plonker! By the way I forgot the real insult: she gained an Oxford PPE along with the rest of the professional liars!
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Out this coming week: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Broken-Vows-Blair-Tragedy-Power-ebook/dp/B0193H0LAE It details how Teflon Tony hand picked immigration minister Barbara Roche to do his bidding and open the floodgates to near uncontrolled immigration, then forbade anyone in the Labour Party to even discuss this. Blair knew he was acting against the interests of the very people who put him in power, but was determined to go through with his social engineering. The text is backed up with interviews with some 200 MPs. Tony's Jewish lawyer chummie Roche was so popular that, as an MP, she succeeded in turning a Labour majority of over 20.000 in her safe London Labour seat into a LD one. So, at a personal level, her bid to flood the electoral register with ever-grateful Labour-voting immigrants wasn't exactly a roaring success. Now we know precisely why Miliband always avoided the subject.
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Fixed! "Someone" forgot to do a reset after changing over some cabling.
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Interesting that certain newspapers are blasting Boris Johnson for being scheming and ambitious. Show me a politico that isn't, and I will show you one that is retiring or quitting politics very soon. Do we need a PM who isn't ambitious, particularly if that doesn't include ambition for their country too? Duplicitous Dave 's ambition only goes as far himself and his tenure as boss of a rapidly federalising Europe. Like Teflon Tony his being UK PM is only a leg up in his internationalist ambitions - after that their country can go hang. Nothing made this clearer than his recent exhorting to Tory MPs to ignore their constituency associations. That must surely qualify him for a seat on the Council of Ministers - failed national politicos all! A bonus to voting Out is that Dave will be forced to go right away, and his term as EU Council President late next year will be ended as decisively as Blair's EU supremo job was snatched away by Dave's very own scheming. There's a tiny bit of natural justice in that. Boris may already have decided Out when Nigel Farage told him last week that siding with Dave's quisling government would put him on the wrong side of history and kill his prospects of ever leading the Tory party stone dead. If so that shows he's ahead of the game, which is what we need a PM to be. If not it illustrates he listens to all the evidence and puts facts, broader opinion, and realistically achievable outcomes before party loyalty - also what this country needs in a leader. Make no mistake, I'm certainly not a Boris supporter (I don't even vote Tory), but when it comes down to basics Boris is infinitely preferable as a leader of this country to Dave and his scheming minions.
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I'm saving the best jokes for when The Guardian finally runs out of (other people's) money Maggie!. Still, I don't suppose that even then Guardianistas will see the supreme irony in that. If it goes up for sale in a £1 fire-sale, like the Indy did, I'm going to consider a purchase. There'd only be one edition under my proprietorship though, and the headline will be fairly near to a steal from Spike Milligan's tombstone.
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Well... they are all still sticking to that script. Interesting that George Galloway was on the same platform as Nigel Farage last night. Some of the Tories and Labour MPs "outers" weren't too happy about this, but I think this is now boiling down to people who trust democracy against those who try to manipulate it quite regardless of any party affiliation. And, I'm going to disagree with you about the spin being on both sides Maggie. All the spin is coming from Dodgy Dave and his bedfellows in the establishment and big business. When Blair and Mandleson are supporting Dave with his international businesses and banker cronies, it becomes pretty clear that the best interest of ordinary Brits is served by a decisive out vote.
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Yes, but enough about The (moral) Guardian Maggie, what about The Express?
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Express headline today: Weather girl Laura Tobin rips priceless superhero poster worth £150,000 http://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/645585/Weather-girl-Laura-Tobin-rips-priceless-comic-book-150-000-Good-Morning-Britain-ITV But maybe priceless is now the new Camspeak: where words such as fundamental, reform, legally-binding, treaty and change don't mean remotely the same as they did last week?
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If you own a modern lappy that only takes 7mm drives you've been unable to upgrade it to a 2TB HDD as the only drives with that capacity are the regular 9.5mm height. No more! Seagate has just managed to squeeze a whole terabyte onto a single platter, so that they can achieve 2TB in a 7mm housing. The model number is ST2000LM009. I've no idea about the price, but they are likely to be selling in stores at well below £100 in a few months.
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Amazing that the powers that be at the Brussels Broadcasting Corporation have decided - that after three or four months of an unfilled "job" - that BBC TV doesn't actually need a £320,000 p/a Director of Television. Even more amazing that BBC2 no longer needs to replace the departing Controller of BBC2 at exactly the same time. The loss of recruitment advertising revenue to The Guardian must be painful too; can it actually survive on such thin gruel? Sort of makes you wonder what these people ever did for their juicy salaries and their perks. It certainly can't have been to ensure impartiality! Maybe that satire on the BBC W1A wasn't too much of a satire after all? The thing about the BBC is that after all these "shake-ups", and the taking out of layers of management, there always seems to be plenty of room for another pruning.
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At the sort of range this would have been at it's likely more than a low power laser pen. It's quite easy to get hold of medium/high power lasers, and they are relatively cheap. Terrorism a distinct possibility; if not in this particular instance then soon.
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What sort of spin do you think our German cousins would put on this Maggie? Surely they want the UK's payola to continue, as without us they'd have to fund the whole political experiment themselves? Or maybe many of our German cousins can be totally honest too? I know you don't like links but this one to Der Spiegel is an eye opener - assuming your eyes hadn't already been opened. Brexit Danger: The EU Strategy to Keep Britain from Leaving Note that they published this on 5th January, and so far Der Spiegel has it 100% correct. Anyone who's naive enough to believe that Cameron is being honest with us; that he's not working to a pre-agreed script, and that the whole negotiation thing isn't a total con trick being perpetrated on the British public needs to think again! Like Blair he has an Oxford degree in conning the public, and just like Blair he's doing this for his own benefit and the benefit of his elitist chums. The reward - he hopes - will be presidency of the United States of Europe, and if he fails in that he's totally guaranteed a position on the EU commissariat with all the other failed politicos. There they never have to submit themselves to nasty messy things like elections ever again!
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Leave.eu about to hit landmark of 500,000 members
threegee replied to threegee's topic in Chat Central
Wow you've been on overtime there TGH! You say you believe in democracy and then you say "TGH-proposal: We stay IN and GET IT SORTED OUT…". How do you think that is going to happen? The EU is fundamentally undemocratic, and it is almost entirely top down. Policy is made by the commissioners, not by our MEPs, so there's no point in berating our North East MEPs - they are only there to give the illusion of democracy. Those are our overlords led by Herr Juncker in the middle. No one elected them, and no one can dismiss them in the way you advocate! They are mostly failed politicos who've made a mess of running their own countries, and have been slung out of office by their respective electorates. Voting to stay in plays right into their hands. This is likely the only opportunity we have to say no, and if you throw it away you've given them the approval they need for their post-democratic society. Amongst other things these people have removed a democratically elected PM in Italy, and installed their own puppet, and will do the same elsewhere. They pay no heed to referendum results, and keep putting the same question in different ways until they get the answer they want, because these elitist post-democrats know better than any electorate. Thanks for the TTIP link. I'm not an Indy reader, but their view accords with mine, and they are - of course - dead right! This is yet another reason any informed person can only vote leave! I'm sorry you don't know about EFTA. We used to be EFTA members and it worked very well for us. I remember sending stuff from Bedlington Post Office to Scandinavia with a very minimum of form filling, and no worries that they buyer would get stuck for any extra charges or have customs hassle. It's actually what we were promised the EEC was, but we were lied to! At the time I couldn't understand why we were turning our back on our EFTA partners, because I took what the politicos were saying at face value. The possibility that Ted Heath was lying through his teeth never entered my silly young mind. If you want to legitimise those lies go right ahead and vote IN, but you'd be making a huge mistake that our children and their children will have to face the consequences of. -
I've been watching the sign ups for the Leave.eu campaign over the past few weeks and they are now noticeably accelerating. It's a bit difficult to find any figures for the posher "rival" Vote Leave campaign though it seems to have gone a long way to sorting its internal problems, but seemingly not before Labour Leave has withdrawn its support in favour of the totally united Grassroots Out initiative. For me Vote Leave was always a bit too close to the elites, and I couldn't understand why Kate Hoey (and even Ronnie Campbell) wanted to cuddle up with them. Its agenda is (or was) to leave with an intention of rejoining the EU on the UK's own terms. I think this is verging on the naive, as if you accept that the EU is a political construct unwilling to reform and headed for disaster, then how is Brexit going to change that? It's a bit like saying that this marriage clearly isn't working, so I'm going for divorce in order to give my partner a jolt so that we can ultimately remarry on my terms. Actually our perfect partner still out there, and we foolishly jilted her for the over madeup gold digger with the fake boobs. Her name is EFTA and she's still waiting for us to come to our senses, and take her in our arms! Whatever your core politics it's now time to GO! There's a wonderful life awaiting outside of the EU, and all this nonsense, dreamed up the international elites for their own enrichment, simply has to end.
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The referendum campaign hasn't yet started - at least that's what Dave is telling the government ministers who want to put their country before their careers and their mega-pension prospects as EU drones. So, Dave's pronouncement about migrants in Kent mustn't have anything to do with the coming referendum then? Of course the Brussels Broadcasting Corporation has given this piece of scaremongering the maximum publicity it can, whilst neutering the responses of the many informed people pointing out the absurdity of what he's claiming. On last night's Radio 4 news they dredged up all the EUphile supporters they could muster whilst clipping Liam Fox's rebuttal to the bare minimum to provide the usual illusion of balance. Dave's fallacious argument and his supportive minions got about 85% of the total air time too. I'd though about filing a complaint, but, having jumped through BBC hoops a couple of times before I can more or less re-create the automated replies from memory. A large number of interest groups have rubbished EU Daves' scaremongering, including top people in the immigration service, and the Lawyers for Brexit group, who quite rightly point out that the intergovernmental deal has nothing whatsoever to do with the EU. But, I'm simply going to quote Bernard Cazeneuve the current French Interior Minister speaking very recently. Bernard Cazeneuve would have been the obvious "ask" for an unbiased BBC, but they carefully selected the deputy Mayor of Calais - someone who has no authority at national level, and is under huge local pressure from the electorate to get the migrants off their patch.
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What's wrong with a PM (Now simply called "Message")? Click on member's name ---> Hit [Message] button -- Simples! Newbies and/or people who haven't validated their e-mail may not show in the who's online, certainly search engines have been suppressed now.
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Most of the time duplicitous politicians need to be treated with the contempt they deserve (I'm looking at you Duplicitous Dave!), but just sometimes their duplicity serves the public interest. An interesting case is the current utterance by Guernsey's chief minister... Not Mr Le Tocq's "negativity" of course, he's fully at ease with the religion of peace, but it simply wouldn't be in Muslim's own best interests to be exposed to less considerate elements on the island. Do I applaud him for this? Well, that would be going too far, but even this seeker after shameless truth does understand that in any society some "little white lies" are necessary for social cohesion. There's obviously a significant minority on the island who will only face up to the consequences of Islamisation when they are staring the irreversible reality of their folly fully in the face; getting yourself unelected is no way to protect those particular electors from their own delusions.
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Ah, the Schroedinger Uncertainty Pick-sical? Nope, Albie didn't buy into any of that puss-e-cat nonsense. Surely he claimed "God does not play dice with picked noses"? Though... I can't state that with any certainty.
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So, once again the European Court overrules inter-government agreements. And here, not being in Schengen is acting against our interests rather than providing us with the alleged cushion. Zero hope then for EUroCam being allowed to hang onto any minor crumbs now thrown to him by other EU governments! But of course he knows that, and once the referendum is out of the way he can resume expressing outrage and surprise before caving in completely. We've been here before over the "surprise" £1.7bn demand from Brussels, and all the false outrage and posturing before paying the bill in a more convoluted way.
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..and.. I though this might be a mention of just how well 'canny' Iceland was doing since leaving the EU! Now be reasonable here! If the American political parties and their politically appointed senior judiciary put bankers in jail it would kill the symbiotic relationship. Jail is for really serious offences like sticking up a drug store for ten bucks; lining your own pockets with hundreds of millions shouldn't even count as a misdemeanour.
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We all want "the betterment of mankind and the world in general", the disagreement is in exactly what that would look like! And... that's where "personal agendas" come in. Seems to me the real delusion is that if you keep on electing the same people with the same outdated ideas then somehow sometime things will change. Einstein put it more generally:
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Hit the [Discussion] tab and look for Popular Contributors up top right. If you don't see this it's because your screen is too small - use a computer or tablet. Nice to see we now have a jockeying for position.