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Bit of a Hobson's Choice there CL, the sort much loved by the hard left. And, to imply that he'd even consider refusing treatment on purely racial grounds would be to presume that which was never intended. Why is a Muslim doctor or nurse here in the first place? It is understandable that they might come for training, but why don't they then go and treat people of their own persuasion nearer to their homeland? If he/she has clearly embraced our society fully, and properly integrated, and is - oh yes - fully medically qualified and speak OUR language passably, then why would anyone have any qualms? But there are any one of a number of alternative scenarios that any clear-thinking human being would be mindful of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Glasgow_International_Airport_attack We won't align ourselves with a huge range of popular yet questionable belief sets in the world, lest we should be identified with their beliefs. Yet are we expected to make an exception with the Saudis just because they are Muslim?

Well at least a small part of it does. That part is The European Scrutiny Committee, and they've scrutinised: Is there a single person in this country that trusts Duplicitous Dave to deliver on any more of his "cast iron" promises? His record is abysmal, and this time he'll be gone by the time his cheque is presented. There are 27 huge reasons why nothing will ever be delivered, and why the EU will continue on its merry way to obliterating our country from the world map! This is by far the most important vote we'll ever be allowed in our lifetime. The result won't be for five years, it will affect our children and many generations yet unborn. Cameron has said their won't be a second chance, and there at least he's right: a YES vote will be for keeps, but a NO vote will be spun into a maybe - we'll still need to be vigilant. There will be an attempt to make the British public believe that a Yes vote is a vote for the status quo, and that a No vote will be playing with fire, and terribly terribly risky. The bald truth is that there is no status quo on offer! It's the German way and total loss of our democracy, or we get our country back! Simples! Any politico that tries to spin it otherwise needs to be put in their place, and reminded who they serve.

So... the Biased Broadcasting Corporation is broadcasting hourly adverts to our great unwashed about the petition to ban Donald Trump from the UK (as if he'd want to come to such an intolerant society anyway, or as if this would have any influence on American voters, except maybe cause more Americans to rally to his support). Strange then that the BBC makes little or no mention of mass petitions which don't align with the Guardinista closed mindset! Well, there's now a counter-petition for those who aren't frightened by ideas, and object to the bullying left trying to shut down debate. And - of course - it's a petition that the BBC will strenuously avoid promoting! https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/114907/ The Government will take no notice of either petition. But, signing the counter-petition at least says that the UK isn't entirely dominated by screaming left-wing activists; those who'd be the very first to the Gulag if their Corbinista dystopia ever got off the ground.

I wouldn't disagree with you that we are headed for global war WT. The question is is it part of an elitist masterplan or are we just stumbling on into it? I think the answer is likely a little different, and that we are fundamentally driven by our genes. The EU and Herr Junker's continual quest for an army for his putative superstate is at core genetic. Yes, the Nazis were right semi-right, there are markers for "the masterrace", but these are not quite as glorious or as unique as they made out! Having gone so far off the rails most Germans are in a period of denial, but their genes are still driving the very same agenda by a more subtle route. There are of course other traits in other ethnic groups, and we undoubtedly share these. This is complete heresy to the woolly-minded left who want everyone to believe that all humans are created equal. That's patent nonsense, as we ourselves illustrate by describing those traits in the animal kingdom which we exploit. This is "dangerous talk" as it blows gaping holes in a lot of the lazy thinking of the left. I don't believe that facing up to reality is in any way dangerous though; we can all accept basic human rights and common standards of decency - well most of us can! But, to conflate those rights with so called equality of races is a daft game that can only lead to misery. We are on the threshold of an age of machine intelligence which will undoubtedly far exceed our own, and it may take this to look back and see things more clearly. In the meantime I'd rather that the religious lefties don't obliterate my country and my blood line in the name of something which they know absolutely nothing of. Nationalism and extended family is not an evil, it's an integral part of our being. It can be perverted, as we are all well aware, but without it we are nothing. Throughout history nations that have promoted free thinking have triumphed and empires that have suppressed it have crumbled. The present fear of challenging ideas illustrates that a formerly great nation is now well on the wrong side of that equation!

Tell this to the Guardinistas at the BBC, and to a large section of our teaching profession. To them the "science"/debate is settled, and no one is permitted an alternative viewpoint. To the terminal PC you are only allowed to "decide" within the very narrow limits they ordain. Take last night's little Guardianista back-slapping session as a hot example, and listen closely to the words. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/telegraphsportnews/12038819/BBC-presenter-says-Tyson-Fury-cannot-be-a-d-and-win-SPOTY-on-air.html Yes, you heard it right: in order to win the main sports award on our licence-funded public broadcaster you MUST conform to the Guardian's mindset! Not all that long ago that utterance would have become a first-class scandal. Now the thought control process has become so endemic that this little truth leakage hardly rates a mention. It mostly goes completely over the heads of the social medial obsessed masses, and only older people posses any meaningful benchmarks as to just how badly freedom of expression has become eroded. And, the kiddies are simply too busy being Self-absorbed, Narcissistic, and Victimised to see the elephant in the room.

Quotes highly selectively plucked only from the Old Testament, which is what Jews hold as divine truth. Curious then that we don't get too nervous in the presence of orthodox Jews - the vast majority of whom have a full compliment of hands! On which subject: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hudud Now all these juvenile apologists for an evil belief set need to do is drive into the Syrian desert and repeat their experiment. Their simply putting a different cover on the Quran would likely be as far as that experiment got.

But.. it's only what they've been taught! http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/624461/Everett-Pipe-Oklahoma-Wesleyan-University How long will Dr Piper stay in his job? Well, judging by the longevity of the career of any other academic speaking out against the our brave new PC world, not very long I'd wager! How can we allow this cultural takeover to happen? It's only possible because ordinary people don't speak out, and allow themselves to be cowed by these pseudo-intellectuals. Bread and Circuses - whilst the unproductive elites in non-jobs feed on Cake! When this becomes so bleedingly-obvious - as in the case of Teflon Tony - well... apply an extra helping of doublethink, and pretend that he changed at some vaguely undefined point, and that Blair doesn't represent the entire dystopian system!

An interesting facet on where this whole internationalist bag of tricks originated: Farewell to the man who invented 'climate change' ...just in case anyone had any doubts that it's all about social engineering, and has b-all to do with science! He's been hiding up in China since 2005, lest his masterful plan should start to unravel; it's simply working so well at the moment!

Even when their potty internationalist view of the world is the only one that can be heard? Even when they infiltrate our schools and tell our children what they must think rather than how to think for themselves? Even when they bend reality to suit their myopic views of everything? Even when they conspire with international capital to create an underclass to service them, and preserve their own undeserved, non-productive, lifestyle? Even when they set about a deliberate eradication of our culture, and a rewrite our history? I think you are a mite confused brother: you are clearly one of us Proles! If you want to turn your back on your ancestry, and decry everything they did and ever stood for you could become a bit lonely in our part of Eurasia.

Nice legs!

After all their politicos scaremongering that a "no" vote would leave Denmark at the mercy of terrorism and paedophiles, the Danes have given a decisive "no" to further integration with the EU. In fact they want to claw some of their sovereignty back, though this will be an uphill struggle against Brussels and their own elites. The sky won't fall in for Denmark because the EU needs them more than they need the EU. That's even more so for the UK - without our money and our independent currency the EU (and the Euro) will implode under the weight of its insufferable bureaucracy. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/denmark/12032958/Denmarks-EU-referendum-is-a-blow-to-David-Cameron.html We've only got a referendum because Duplicitous Dave never foresaw that the so-called Liberal Democrats would self-destruct. He was depending on them to once again prevent him from carrying out an electoral promise. He miscalculated on that one big time, and now that we have the once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to tell him where he and his trough-guzzling buddies can put their non-jobs, we'd all be idiots to let him off the hook. For the sake of everyone in Europe the UK needs to ignore all the Europhile lies, follow the Danish example, and issue a big "no"!

Sorry, it's going to be mid week before it can be fixed. You can't get the labour these days!

When I was young scientific method meant that all theories were always up for discussion, and that if something came along which better fitted the data the previous theory could be consigned to history - principally, everything was always up for discussion. History, however, seems to have stopped. At least it has at the Biased BBC! In other words: in a slack moment we let through something which admitted to a non-alarmist viewpoint, and that simply won't do! So, we will censor it under the spurious and pathetic excuse of lack of impartiality. This is truly Orwellian! http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06418l5 Well Biased BBC, your lame excuse just about describes 50% of your output these days! So carry on censoring stuff that doesn't conform with your PC group-think, then we can have a bumper edition of the What's the point of...? entitled: What's the point of a publicly funded broadcasting organisation that has lost all perspective, and is controlled by an arrogant liberal-leftie elite! But, somehow, I don't think that program will even get to the commissioning stage.

That's the best news I've had this week - so far! I think you have to separate the events that would have happened anyway from those events that likely wouldn't. Some are difficult to categorise, but WWI was surely just waiting for an excuse to happen? Another excuse would have come along quickly. In fact there might have been something to trigger it quite some time earlier, as tensions had been rumbling on for many years. It's easy to paint it WWI a huge misunderstanding as many politicos do these days, but that would be a lie. Rather like George W. looking for an excuse (ably assisted by Teflon Tony) to finish off a war his father had made the quite opposite mistake of terminating far too early - the Austrians only declared war because Germany was standing right behind them urging them on, and planning to be the biggest beneficiary. Our parents and their parents read it correctly as yet another historic German grab for power and influence. It also turned out as another historic German miscalculation as to the will and determination of other peoples. Yet, how soon we forget these simple truths, and dismiss the fact that many of the very same factors are still at work in the very same locations. They are simply dressed up differently to appeal to a modern audience, but the scheming and the lies continue. I guess that brings us back to your thread title: Time and Time Again.

Full article: The fiddling with temperature data is the biggest science scandal ever

Yup, breathtaking that the very people who's wrong-headed ideas are responsible for one of our problems, want to use that problem to further their own agenda on another nutty one that's been dreamed up out of thin air! They have the temerity to call people who don't fall for all this deniers. But I suppose all religions have used that term to label people who need actual physical proof before they are prepared to change their established lifestyles. So, why should The Church of Anthropomorphic Climate Change be any different? Personally I'm still expecting the terminal skin cancer that we were all going to get from the hole in the ozone layer. It's still there apparently, and reportedly even larger than when we all had five years left to live. Better still, bring back the good old days when we could nod to the established fact that it was all that b* nuclear testing that was disrupting the climate. You could actually make an excellent living by predicting the next doom and disaster fad: get ahead of the market on the book, then the film of the book, then the world lecture tour, and you are set up for life! You only need to come up with something that's nebulous and can never be scientifically dis-proven, but woolly thinkers (like politicos) can be persuaded is a real threat to civilisation. There must be oodles of non-jobs in it, and lots of international travel and expense accounts. Principally there must be no clear solution, and the only things that could possibly be done should be so expensive that they exceed the entire world's GNP several times over. To get third world support you need to be able to point the finger of blame at those nations who've made the world a lot better place for everyone, and - of course - promise them lots of money you haven't got. No one genuinely expects that this mega-money will ever materialise, so that's OK. It really helps if in doing these things civilisation would be wound back a few hundred years (and likely the average human lifespan back to 25 years in process) - that one gets the Green vote every time!

Labour was shaken by Ukip at the General Election. You don't have to look hard to find senior Labour figures that will candidly admit this. But things have got a lot worse for Labour since - they get worse every week, and every time Corbyn and his communist cohorts open their mouths. This week's Little Red Book incident could have been scripted by the spin doctors at Tory Central Office; it certainly had the Parliamentary Labour Party wanting to crawl under their seats! Senior Labour figures are coming back from Oldham and reporting that huge numbers of their supporters are telling them that they are switching to Ukip because they won't vote for a Corbyn-led party. Ukip came very close to kicking out Labour in nearby solidly Labour Heywood, but things have now got to the stage that the previously unthinkable is indeed possible: loss of perhaps Labour's safest seat in the country! Certainly the Bookies think so and have now dramatically shortened their odds. But, whilst a Ukip win would be welcome to many, it's not all that appealing to senior planners at Ukip, who are playing to the long-term. Their focus is on the referendum - a referendum which any thinking person must admit was dragged out of Cameron in a moment of panic after seeing huge numbers of working-class Tory supporters defect. Corbyn is one of Ukip's best assets, and Labour would come to it's senses a lot earlier if the Parliamentary Labour Party had the ammunition to oust him. A Ukip win would put the nuclear option into their hands. So, Ukip is hoping for an illustration of the very possible, but not a show of the very probable, or the disaster scenario of an outright win! If you relish paradoxes this has to be one of the very best.

Ah, but the burning question there is still "Where Have All the Nazis Gone?" I think the best person to ask about this might be Herr Jean-Claude Juncker - our EU president, who has just said he won't let us leave the EU! Could it be that the price of a few of Duplicitous Dave's pretend EU reforms is a nod and a wink that Juncker will finally be granted the EU Army he's been pushing for? As they say in Germany: if you can't beat them take them over. Or is it Vorsprung durch Technik - I really can't remember! Then again, maybe they both mean just about the same to 21st century Nazis!

Nope, I'm trying to tell you that we have enough problems of our own without importing an entirely new set of problems which we (with a few apparent exceptions, like you) are utterly clueless about. If your are living there and allowing your children to be radicalised by ignorant and evil old men posing as sages; trying to create a parallel justice system to the native one; are passive whilst other Brits commit atrocities elsewhere in the World; are attempting to out-breed the local population with the covert intent of taking over one day; believe that your religion is the only one that has any right to exist, etc. - then you should pack your bags and return to primitive old Blighty without any delay, and not wait for them to send you back. Sweden is for ordinary Swedes, and any change should be in tiny increments, not imposed by "infidels" and/or as part of the agenda of an elite class - an over-class who have comprehensively insulated themselves from the direct consequences of their own actions. And, a class who tag anyone who says hold on lets rethink this one as flavour-of-the-month-phobic! Those people are never around when the direct consequences of their pet theories become evident to all us Beano readers.

Hmm... let's say that one morning we all wake to find the media saturated with the news that 1000 alien spaceship are orbiting the Earth. During the night several warlike incidents have occurred and many humans have been killed. Then, one such craft lands on the Town Moor and the occupants tell us that we have nothing to fear - yes, they are all from planet Zog, and they all have a common belief system, but only 10% of the spacecraft are occupied by aliens who mean us harm and the rest are peace loving refugees from a planet that has been made uninhabitable by their mutual warring. They decline to adopt our way of life, and intend to proceed in the same belief system which culminated in the desertion of their own planet, but we should be happy about this multicultural experience. I suspect that the unified reply of the human race would be to take your problems away and sort them out yourselves, because they are not our problems. When we sort our own problems we'll call you to see if you've sorted yours, but meanwhile stay the *&(*&(* away from us or we'll nuke any alien craft on sight. I also suspect we'd have a tiny minority of Zoginistas who tell us we were all wrong and that we must discount the mounting carnage and consider the "obvious economic benefits" of harbouring aliens. We should volunteer those people to go on our own space mission to colonise other worlds - because the group will likely contain all those interplanetary-experienced humans who've been abducted by aliens in the past!

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Excuse me but that sentence referred to the ideology, and that was clear from my post too. Like many people I do believe that there's an underlying acceptance on behalf of very many Muslims of extremism. It's simply not enough to say that the extremists are wrong, or that they are misinterpreting their scriptures. The Quran is directly opposed to all decent modern standards of behaviour. If you take this text as your law - as Sharia courts do - then you are following a barbarous ideology that has no place in the modern world. If you study that link you will find that comparisons with Christianity are entirely spurious. No Christian work advocates an intolerance of other beliefs, there's no Christian word for killing unbelievers, and no Christian cleric would miss any opportunity of condemning violence, especially violence in the very name of Christianity. The position of many in this country is tantamount to saying it's OK to take in immigrants from an area infected by Ebola as just a few of them have it in an infectious form! There's now a very significant number of people in our country who believe that Islam and Sharia law must be imposed on everyone, and that there's a divine inevitability in this. To pretend otherwise, and to pretend that other far less extreme Muslims won't go along with this when the call comes is extreme folly. The Muslim community must come out and condemn the extremists in a way that it has utterly failed to do up until now, else the outlook for our country is bleak. We can all see the demographic time bomb ticking away, and no one more so than the extremists.

It's not about some individuals doing/saying the right thing, or indeed "simple arithmetic", it's about a religion that is full of hate, advocates violence, and is absolutely intolerant of ALL other religions. This is a core issue, and why the religious leaders themselves don't speak out. http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm If this really was a religion like other religions all these calls to violence would be excised, but they are not, and that simple fact is telling! That we even tolerate a parallel legal system to our own country is crazy. We send the barbarians all the wrong messages then wonder why they treat western civilisation with contempt. Put simply: You can't fight extreme intolerance with tolerance, at some point you have to stand up to it and say enough! Just about all senior politicians have now admitted that multiculturalism doesn't work - yes, even Mrs Merkel. But, they are singularly clueless about how to reverse the folly. Mrs Merkel's answer to just about every problem on the planet is that everyone must behave like a good German - somehow I don't think that Islam sees things her way!