Everything posted by Canny lass
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Netherton - Newcastle Weekly Chronicle 13 September 1873
PS. Yes typewriters did exist in 1873 - but only just, having been invented in the 1860's.
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Netherton - Newcastle Weekly Chronicle 13 September 1873
@lilbill15 I can vouch for the authenticity of this text. I’ve seen the original (National Archives). It is, as you suggest, a transcript of the original. This is evident in the transcriber’s use of the Latin “sic” indicating that he/she has quoted the text verbatim to include even the author’s non-standard language use. “and away to the south east firey (sic) heaps” (p8) “Away from the old pit is what is what (sic) is very appropriately” (p8) The article is one in a series, Our Colliery Villages, published in the Newcastle Weekly Chronicle 1872 onwards. There are a few transcripts floating about on the internet if you don't want to subscribe to the NA.
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Puce Bush Farm
Sorry if I mizzled you @lilbill15. I looked on Google Earth to see where Brook Court was and the result was shown as behind Hirst Terrace. Street View tells a different story!
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DISAPPEARED! 25 Millbank Crescent.
There is no such thing as "doing something badly" Where I live, it's called "doing something differently".
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Puce Bush Farm
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DISAPPEARED! 25 Millbank Crescent.
@lilbill15 Just to round this off could you explain to me where "The Pantry" fits into this? Does it have some connection to nr. 25?
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DISAPPEARED! 25 Millbank Crescent.
Good match but I'm pleased they lost. I couldnt be doing with another night of celebratory drinks in this heat.
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DISAPPEARED! 25 Millbank Crescent.
That explains it! I was starting to think I might be going senile. Google maps and Google Earth use the same pics for the area, from March 2009. I usually concentrate on the more permanent features - lintels, chimneys, brickwork. They don't tend to change as often.
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How's the weather in Alberta Vic?
I'll bet you'll be pleased when that rain comes, Vic! Grandson has 52 degrees in Mali at the minute.
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Viktor Orban
Change that pint to a whisky and I'd do the same.
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DISAPPEARED! 25 Millbank Crescent.
Now I'm lost! Are there two nr 24 Millbank Crescent - one with a white door, as mentioned in your first post, and this one with a black door?
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DISAPPEARED! 25 Millbank Crescent.
@Alan Edgar (Eggy1948) I don't know how you manage all this clarting! What a job getting those numbers in place!
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DISAPPEARED! 25 Millbank Crescent.
At first sight I can agree with you, but if you look at how it was 1911 there are 25: Look at the double lintel across the door and small window of nr. 25. That's been 2 doors - same as all the other double lintels. Nr 15 is for sale (green notice on pole) but the number isn't too clear on a zoomed pic. Here's a closer pic of nrs. 17, 18 and 19 so that you can recognise the doors.
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DISAPPEARED! 25 Millbank Crescent.
I don't know what happened there. I eddited my post and most of it disppeared when I posted! My theory is that after the first two houses mentioned above, Millbank Crescent consisted of flats. There are 25 dwellings on the census but there are not 25 houses - as the chimney's and bay windows suggest. Number 24 and 25 have been converted to one dwelling and if you count along to number 10 the same thing seems to have happened there with number 11. It seems that number 25 hasn't disappeared it's just beenj incorporated into number 24.
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DISAPPEARED! 25 Millbank Crescent.
I think I have the answer to the disappearing 25. Looking at the 1939 register there is no number 11. I don't know why. Looking at the 1911 census, there are 25 dwellings on Millbank Crescent. The first of these (next to Millbank Terrace and working towards the station) has 8 rooms and is occupied by Mr. Garthwaite the headmaster at Bedlington's "Public Elementary School". The second dwelling has 6 rooms and is occupied by Mr Mayhew proprietor of a wholesale confectionary business. Today it looks like this: are Looking at Google Earth there are not 25 houses. Looking at 1911, the dwellings go in pairs of 3 roomed and 4 roomed. These must always have been flats: 4 rooms downstairs, 3 rooms upstairs. The chimney pots seem to verify that as well. Today, we can clearly see two doors per bay window for most of these dwellings - one for upstairs, one for downstairs. Number 24 only has one door. The two flats have been made into (or returned to the original) one house.
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DISAPPEARED! 25 Millbank Crescent.
I spoke too soon! I've just looked at the 1911 census and Millbank Crescent had 25 houses. More info following.
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DISAPPEARED! 25 Millbank Crescent.
@lilbill15 I had another look at the 1939 register. This time I looked at the whole street and found that there is no number eleven. There doesn't appear to have ever been a number 11 as the schedule numbers are consecutive and none are missing. Number 25 hasn't disappeared. It's more likely that number 12 has become number 11 and the higher numbers have been adjusted.
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Concrete things in fields
I'm sure they do but the only thing I'll be buying from UK is tax-free whisky on return journeys (assuming we ever get let out again). Brexit has meant that buying anything from Blighty involves a delivery time of months. Even a first class letter now takes 3-4 weeks instead of four days. I'm still waiting for a birthday present for a grandson - ordered May 7 in good time for a birthday 3 June. Last tracked June 15 at Heathrow Airport where it was said ti o be "in the post". Should this wonder cure you speak of eventually arrive here, despite all odds, it probably wouldn't be allowed in because it's a medication - and not many are approved by the authorities. I'll just have to plod on with my pillarless airy ellipsoid just as it is.
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Concrete things in fields
I'm sad to say it hasn't been the same since trig pillars went out of fashion.
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Happy Birthday Foxy!
Neither of the available options was what I'd want but now the PM has spoken to the nation. He chose to ask the speaker to relieve him of office. We now have an interim government - the same government with essentially the same powers - to fill the gap while the speaker has talks with all parties to try to form a government. He has four attempts to try to get parties to work together in a government before he must call an extra election. It took 4 months the last time! Sorry to be bombarding your birthday greetings with this Foxy. I'll stop now and wallow in a deep depression over the state of the nation. I'm sure the BBC will be keeping everybody in England informed. Over and out.
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Concrete things in fields
@lilbill15 I just checked it out by putting the numbers into a grid reference-finder: gridreferencefinder.com It came up with this: Just about spot-on for Puce Bush. Useful tool to have on your outings.
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Concrete things in fields
@lilbill15 I think I've cracked it! The numbers on your pic are a National Grid Reference. I'm not too familiar with it but here's a good site for basic info on using the grid: https://getoutside.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/guides/beginners-guide-to-grid-references
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Happy Birthday Foxy!
Big day tomorrow! The PM must reveal to the nation what his decision is: Will he resign or will he call for an extra election? We'll know tomorrow.
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Concrete things in fields
Hi @lilbill15. I’m sorry but I can’t be of any assistance with those numbers. I have no idea what they are. Like, Eggy, I don’t use coordinates. I do like Google Earth for this sort of thing because you can go back and look at earlier views of the same area. Here’s a series of pictures from the area under discussion. I’ll start with a map from 1898 then aerial views of the same area from: 2002, 2006, 2015, and 2020. On each view I marked the spot where I think Puce Bush farm was located (Blue) using St Paul’s Church (Red) and the old road into Choppington Colliery (Green) as reference points. I ended up in roughly the same spot as Eggy. Google Earth gives the coordinates at the bottom of the screen print. It varies slightly pic to pic but not significantly. I probably didn’t land on the same spot with my mouse every time. However, the coordinates shown are close to those that Eggy gives. Eggy: 55.149482, 1.610697 G. Earth: 55o09’03.11”N (North) 1o36’36’37.67”V (West) ... but they don’t resemble anything on your picture: 583972 North 424911 East I’ve no idea what your numbers represent.
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Concrete things in fields
Honestly, I have no idea either - but for God's sake keep doing it! Your clagging has induced clarity and cohesion to many a topic and a s such has earned its rightful place here on Bedders. Where would we be without you and your clarting and clagging!