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  1. Of old maps to judge, the PO moved from its location between the King's Arms and The Mason's Arms on Front Street West 1860-61. However, while I can remember it in more recent times once again on Front Street West, I can't remember when it moved there. ... and when the family was completed and the pram no longer used for transport of other household essentials the under-carriage made a great bogey! Two sets of wheels, three planks of wood: one long, two short and a bit of your mother's clothes line for the steering and the dragging it back up hills. Am I right in thinking we also called that a trambone?
  2. Now that's a turn up for the books! Well done! It clearly went on to be called the Mason's Arms at some time before 1861 when it's named in the census. Something that's struck me as odd over the years is the number of Bedlington publicans who appear to have had a second string to their fiddle, so to speak. 1851 there's a shoemaker/innkeeper (I'm not sure which pub but somewhere between the market place and last house at the east end of the town on the north side of the road). Same year we also had at the Black Bull - innkeeper/cooper, and at the Sun Inn - Innkeeper/blacksmith. 1861 the Traveller's Rest had a Beer Housekeeper/labourer. Clearly, selling beer hasn't always been the lucrative profession it is today. There's also a Swan Inn. I've never heard of that one.
  3. Cigarette machine on the corner! Who can remember those?
  4. Paul, I'll send you a personal message.
  5. Correction! Carol's photo of Yard Row shows the same type of window. https://www.bedlington.co.uk/gallery/image/247-back-of-yard-row/ Office Row was also brick-built as were most of the other pit buildings. Perhaps the first 20 or so houses of Howard Row, nearest the pit, were also brick. They were built many years before the rest of Howard Row.
  6. Naturally, that should have said 'window' not widow!
  7. Is he sure it's Howard Row? I have it on very good authority (family) that Howard Row was stone-built. This looks like brick. Widow seems abit big for the colliery houses as well.
  8. Hello Paul! Welcome to the forum. Look at the 1947 map which I posted above a couple of years ago. Howard Row was built in two blocks, with several years inbetween. The first block, the oldest of the Howard pit houses, is nearest the pit head and is where your father was born at nr.7 The numbers ran from 1-22 starting at the pit and going towards the social club. Your family may have lived there quite a while as there is a Lucas family at that address in 1911. I was born in 1947 at the other end of the street but have no memory of how it was because the family was möved to alternative accommodation shortly afterwards so that the houses could be demolished. I know, that at 3 yo I was still living the alternaive accommodation but the family must have returned to the newer colliery houses shortly after, because I started school at Netherton Infants at the age of 4½ in 1951. We lived then in Third Street. By then Howard Row and Yard Row no longer existed.They then seem to have been demolished a few years as the sites were overgrown with grass and bushes - a favourite playground area! The sites of the two blocks of Howard Row can be clearly seen in the ariel photo running north from the letter M up to the pit. Howard Row, nrs 1-22 were the smallest of the colliery houses with only two rooms. Yard Row consisted also of two rooms . The odd house had three rooms but this was because the residents built make-shift lean-toos over the outer areas However, the second block of Howard Row, nearest the social club was built with three rooms. Residents, even here increased some houses to four rooms using the same ingenuity as in Yard Row. As I said previously, I never saw these houses so yhe information I can offer is only what I've heard from older family members about living conditions in Howard Row.(my oldest siste was 20 years older than me). In his book on Netherton, Evan Martin shares this photo of Howard Row, presumably the gap between the two blooks. In the gallery you can find this photo which is reportedly of Clifton Row. I played with school friend in Clifton Row and can't remember it being as delapidated as this. Clifton Row was the newer, more modern of the pit rows before First-Third Street were built. I think this is Yard Row or even Howard Row. Both rows were built to the same plan I believe.
  9. Great photos! In the second of them I think it says Masons Arms. I'm pretty sure about the word Arms and that the first word also ends with the letter s. The first word is also marginally longer than the second. Not a lot to go on but better than nothing. What I find more interesting is the medallion on the wall above the sign. Looking at the shape it reminds me of the present day Freemasons sign: I don't know when the photo was taken but according to census records from 1851 through 1891 the occupation of 'mason' crops up quite freqeuntly. Not so surprising as Bedlington had a quarry or two. I do know that the Stonemason's Guild eventually became the society of Freemasonry. Did they take over this sign from the Stonemasons Guild? Anybody with connections to the Freemasons who can help out here?
  10. You aren't able to read the name over the door here, are you?
  11. THANKS! I owe you one! Now the census is starting to make sense. Those two pubs on the map are the Kings Arms and the Masons Arms with one 'dwelling' inbetween - the Post Office. I thought the first pub on that side of the road was the Kings Arms but now I realise that it must be the Blue Bell. Silly me! Funny how the memory plays tricks at our age. I've always suspected that the buiding which houses Tallantyres was originally two properties because of the asymmetry of the upstairs windows. In the small insert photo Tallantyres occupies not the Masons Arms, but the Post Office (with two upstairs windows). In the larger isert photo, Tallantyres occupies both the old Post Office AND the former Masons Arms (with three upstairs windows).
  12. Just the mention of the word stotty brings back that bakery smell to me!
  13. Thanks for trying Eggy! Would I be right in thinking that's the gable end of the Kings Arms (Grapes) to the left of Tallantyres? I can't really place Tallantyres in my minds eye. I thought the Kings Arms was nearer the top end.
  14. Help needed to identify two public house from 1860. Centre left of this map, on the north side of Front Street West are two public houses - one either side of the post office (which moved to the market place the same or following year). Can anybody help me with the names. Also, Where is tallantyres shop today in relation to these two pubs. I saw on a photo that the Mason's Arms was now Tallantyres but a search of the census doesn't give the name of any other pub. In fact, I can't find any other pub east of the Masons Arms other than the Cross Tavrn and that's supposed to be in the Market Place (even if its address was Front Street until 1891 when it became Market Place).
  15. The Kings Arms is listed in the 1861 census as "Grapes Inn". Ten years later, in the 1871 cenus, the name is given as "Kings Arms", so Grapes hasn't always been a nickname.
  16. Depends how long the yard has been there, I'm now thinking. There was also, in 1861, one of Bedlington's largest "licensed lodging houses" on Muggers Corner (west corner of Mugger's Nook - Mugger's Neuk in the Bedlington dialect) run by one Eliza Phillips. This must have faced what later became known as Phillips Yard when the third house, adjoining the Cross Inn was built. I've been having a look at area of the main street and market place through the census records and I've actually found a Phillips Yard registered in 1871. However, that yard is at the top end of the town opening out onto Glebe Row. It consisted of five dwellings of which one was occupied by Septimus Phillips, a coachman born in Morpeth - as were the Phillips from the Cross Tavern. Maybe related? So that's another bit of history Doreen has confirmed in naming the market place yard. Sorry to hear about Doreen, Vic, it's a tough decision to make! However, you've done a great job nursing her at home as you've done. I take my hat off to you! I'm pleased you've found somewhere local which should make visiting and maintaining family contact a bit easier for you. PS That must be Heppell's the baker Dorren remembers. It can be seen on the 1938 photo of the market cross posted by Eggy.
  17. Many of Bedlington's ´yards' quite often don't appear on early maps the reason being that the names were given by the residents and weren't in any way official. The residents named them so that friends and workmates could identify them. Popular names were the names of pubs (as the yard belonged to the pub). One example of this is Tankerville yard. Another way to identify the residence was by giving the name of the owner. Keith gives a good example of this in the previous post - Johnson's yard - another is Foggan's yard. I believe Phillips yard may have belonged to the Phillips family who seem to have run the Cross Inn at the market place, next to Pattinsons the estate agent. The yard may well have belonged to pub and no longer exists. The Phillips' certainly ran the pub in 1888: http://www.sixtownships.org.uk/sad-death-at-bedlington.html and the 1911 census shows the same Hannah Phillips still living at 'Market Place' Bedlington. Hannah is by then a widow who gives her occupation as "retired Beer House Keeper".
  18. OK. My relative would have just had his 4th birthday so I thought he wasn't old enough to have started school. I thought they started at 5 yo.
  19. Nice selection! Something for all of our senses: wonderful colours, different shapes, fantastic summer perfumes, sound of the wind in the poplar. This is going to be beautiful in a few years.
  20. 1967 sounds more reasonable than the 1965 stated on the photo. I965 my relative wasn't old enough to start school.
  21. Having a bit of difficulty getting my head around the details in that photo! I recognise a relative, already named, but his age and the date on the photo don't quite match up. Also having difficulties with the building. Had the infant school at NETHERTON closed and had the pupils transferred to NEDDERTON? Netherton was an infant school but Nedderton was a Junior school.in my time. I'll have to do a bit of digging. It could well be the rear of the building which faces the road in Nedderton village but I think the window panes were upright, same as the front of the building. Of course, they could have fitted new windows. Can't imagine where they fitted in 72 pupils!!
  22. Good to see our adults inviting them in to take part.
  23. Crazy, isn't it! Here, every child who has more than 2 km to school (and that's most of them) is entitled to use a free school bus which saves the problem of parking at schools. Some of the more recently built schools have solved the parking problem with a D-shaped island in front of the school. Parking is ON the island with only one entrance/exit (on the curved side) while the school entrance is accessed on foot from the straight side where there is no traffic other than school buses. It has some remarkable side-effects. 1. It doesn't half slow the traffic down outside the school. 2. The kids are allowed to charge for parking when they are putting on any kind of event in the school, giving a welcome boost to school funds. A very large comprehensive is in the process of being built locally and I understand that the pick-up/drop-off point is going to be an underground drive-through.
  24. What a pity I couldn't reply earlier! Could have saved you a bob or two. Plenty of soup spoons on Amazon at better prices. However, a good tip is to have a look in charity shops. They get so much cutlery and china from house clearances that they don't know what to do with it all. A couple of years ago I needed cutlery and china for a 3 course meal for 80 people. Hiring was out of the question (far too expensive). I managed to buy everything I needed, even the serving dishes, for under a tenner at the nearest charity shop. Then I gave it all back after we'd done with it. Might be worth a try if you're looking for anything else.
  25. That would be the Nicholas Garrow Home for the Blind. Anybody know anything about Nicholas Garrow?
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