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Image Comments posted by Alan Edgar (Eggy1948)
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@Bandsman1966 - started to add the names to this one and thought the 'shield' next to the bass drum looked familiar.
It's the same as the shield in the photo of the Netherton Collier Silver Model Prize Band - Winners of Northumberland Championship, 1932.
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@Canny lass - @bluebarby - do either of you two recognise the building behind the band members, on the right as you look at the photo?
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2 hours ago, Bandsman1966 said:
Ah, now, if you compare the names from the "earlier" pic I see the 2 young lads #'s 26/7 named as Hutton & Clark, on this pic #2 and #9 a few years older.....we're (mostly you) are starting to pin this timeframe down.
I started looking at that this afternoon. I copied your list of names from 1922, 29 & 32 to see what I could match up.
I would imagine that any miner, that was a musician, was loyal to the pit he worked at and although I couldn't prove it I would be guessing that in the 20's & 30's when all the Bedlingtonshire pits were in production the miners wouldn't have had to travel to a pit outside the area they lived.
I can also image that most bands had many extra members spread over the 3 shifts and it it would be costly for anyone to miss a normal, or weekend, shift so it would be unusual for the same people to be competing in every competition :-
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Added the names to the photo @Bandsman1966. I have seen this photo before. It's on the http://www.ibew.org.uk/vbbp-uk.htm (Internet Bandsman's Everything Within) site and has, without any proof, the date of 1920 associated with it. As you know the drum has 1906 printed on it.
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@Bandsman1966 - added the list of names from the previous image posted. The back & front rows easy but the sequence of the names, middle two rows, could be out of step.
Would you like the name 'North Seaton' added to the photo?
I had a check on the Brass bands results web site and there is only one competition listed for 1929 with Northseaton Workmen & Netherton Colliery taking part.
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@Bandsman1966 - Names added to the photo but unfortunately it's just a list as I can't match the names up to the faces.
Is the building on the right Netherton Institute?
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Bandsman - I know the words 'Sept 1950 New Uniforms Cresswell Disaster' is written on your info but I have not included it on the photos I have added the names to.
I did a bit of research and the Creswell Colliery Mining disaster, Derbyshire was on the 26th. September 1950 - a fire broke out and 80 men were killed. The fire was started at No. 2 transfer point, when a conveyor belt jammed. The belt rollers probably continued to rotate and friction on the conveyor belting produced enough heat to propagate the fire. Flames swept through the 12' by 10' roadway trapping the men behind a "wall of flame".26th September 1950.
I 'Googled' to see to see if there was any info online about any tributes by colliery bands following the disaster but didn't find anything.
I couldn't make out the faded writing that appears to be the name of the cup the band are dispalying so couldn't find anything on that.
The only Brass Band competition I could find for Sept 1950 was The British Open but that was on the 2nd September 1950 and Netherton were not listed as having taken part in the competition. The Creswell Colliery Band were in that competition.
Also in Historic Bedlington is an Album - 'Nedderton/Netherton old photos' by Carole and this photo is in it but with the info :-' This photo was taken in the garden of Howard House in the 1930s. The Colliery Manager, Mr Anthony Scott is seated behind and slightly to the right of the trophy.' Based on the names you have given, with your photo, and having seen the people in other photos 1950 would appear to be the right date.
As for the way the names have been set out it is difficult to match them into the 5 rows so I have done two photos – one with numbers and an attempt to associate all the names to a number and one with no numbers and just 5 rows of names.
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This old image posted on a Facebook group and saved by one of the members but that member can't remember which group they saved it from. Suspect it will be from one of Evan Martin's many books on Bedlingtonshire - the Railway Tavern, proprietor G E O CRAIGS, with ELLIOT'S newsagents on the left of the building.
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@Canny lass - @bluebarby do you the names of these three? From previous photos, with names, I would guess that they are, from left to right as you look at the photo - Edith McClean - Elsie Grant & Ruby Stewart.
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Unfortunately not - the four names published with the photo are :- L to R - Peter Carrigan, David Clark, Gordon Ridley and William Smith.
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@Bandsman1966 - names added to photo. I did a quick search in Goolge for Hammersmith Town Hall Brass Band Competition - 1959 and the site and info on the brassbandresults.co.uk site was found - Cambois Workmens & Pegswood Colliery band were also listed in the bands for this event. Added a bit of the info into the photo.
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The young lad, bottom left corner as you look at the photo, has been bugging me as I am sure I have seen him before. Took a while but then it clicked - Bedlington Grammar School photo posted on Facebook group Bygone Bedlington and part of the comment was :- '.......... and Gordon was the talented young upstart from the fourth year.......'
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@Bandsman1966 - added your list of names to the photo - check it out and see if I have them mapped on Ok.
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Added the info to the photo.
@Bandsman1966 - do you know when, and for how long, Brentford Nylons, took over and ran the NethertonColliery Brass Band?
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in Historic Bedlington
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@Bandsman1966 - names added to the photo. had a look at the names on the other early 1900's photos and I matched 3 names that were on the 1922 photo that has the RBT DEUCHAR CUP band = J. MUTTON - JOE DOBSON & PETER CHRISTIE.
Had a look through the other Netherton albums to see if I could see any building to the one behind the wall the band are in front of. There is one old photo of Fails Farm in the album Netherton/Nedderton old photos 2 but it's not very clear and I couldn't say it was the same building where this band photo was taken.
Fails Farm that was posted by James Lee Aynsley's on Facebook - Bygone Bedlinngton with the caption :- "Heading from the Road Ends past MrFails Farm buildings towards Netherton Colliery in the distance is the last house Standing it was on Third Street."