Canny lass

Yep! Found the Olympic Park no bother. Who wouldn't with a view like that!

I don't know about putting them in stocks but I'm all for the idea of keeping them, and their parents if need be, occupied on Friday- and Saturday nights. Keith mentioned earlier on another thread that tthere are courses given to traffic offenders as a form of 'punishment' and they seem to do some good in making offenders aware of the consequences of bad driving. Why not parenting courses at the weekends for young offenders and their parents with the emphasis on communication and responsibilities?

There must be some way of maintaining control of children as the majority turn out just fine. I haven't lived in England for many years so I'd like to know what it is that's changed there. Who has taken away the right to raise children to be respectful, law-abiding adults? I know there are laws against the use of corporal punishment - and rightly so - but who on this earth has taken away the right to speak to a child? Punishment is a rather harsh sounding word which tends to be associated with physical abuse, but it needn't necessarily be so. Is there some new law that say's a parent can't stop a child's pocket money (there's no law which say's you have to give it to them as far as I know)? Is there some new law that say's a 13-14 year old cannot be given a set, early bed time by his own parents? Is there some new law that say's a parent can't curtail the use of a child's favourite 'toy' (read computer, i-phone etc.) for a period of time? Of course all of these "punishments" are dependent for their effect on being able to speak to the child and explain that it's the consequence of a certain behaviour so I cannot understand why it should be forbidden to speak to a child. What's wrong with teaching a child from an early age that human behaviour is always coupled to consequences - sometimes good and sometimes bad. Children are not born with a complete code of conduct stamped on their forehead. It's something they have to learn with the help of the adults in their lives. Getting through life is about making wise choices. Wise choice = good consequences. Bad choice = bad consequences. That needs to be learned as a child. Unfortunately I think there's a lot of truth in what Brettly say's. For some parents it's a case of 'anything for a quiet life'.

In some ways yes. Makes you wonder where the older generation is going wrong.

WHAT!!!!!!!

Just bairns!

the underwear's OK but the bondage aspect could have been played down a bit don't you think?

I don't know about that but my first 2-wheeler was a CWS (Cooperative Wholesale Society alias "the store") but my brother told me that CWS really meant "copper, wire and string". I loved my bike anyway!

I've always wondered why cyclists are allowed to use pavements. If it's got wheels it's a vehicle and should be on the road. If it's got feet (and using them to walk) it's a pedestrian and should be on the pavement! (with the exception of children learning to ride with adult supervision).

More than good. Excellent!!

Interesting threegee! Didn't know that Jimmy Millne had anything at that end of the street. Where was the off-licence then. Can anybody remember?

Thanks a bunch Fourgee. I'll try that.

That's interesting Brettly. I've often wondered where the Whitley Memorial School got it's name. Could it have anything to do with him?

Anybody know what ages we're talking about here?

I'm quite enjoying the image.

3) could it have anything to do with Winston Churchill's bunker? Seating for 30, place to discuss politics and strategies? Just a thought.

Brilliant!!

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Threegee, this is about the bit that's not editable by me, so all that is also totally irrelevant. Can't agree with you on the publishing aspect either, I'm afraid. Beleive me if its on the Internet its published, at least potentially. "It's only visible to you", you say. Now there's a sentence that must have echoed repeatedly around the walls of the Whitehouse at some point in the past! I myself can't really see the logic in having made visible to me something which I would already know. I'm presuming of course that these warning points won't just sneak up on me in the night - although now that I think about it, my warning status did just that! You say that "If there is a problem I'm at a loss to see how this could be!" I guess I'd already worked that out for myself, so I don't really think there's any point in continuing the discussion. I'll just leave the last word to you.

Threegee, it's totally irrelevant through which warning system you recieved your warning and I am not asking you to eat your words - only to hear mine. As you have so rightly pointed out this is a democratic site. Neither have I askied you to disable the system or even to modify it - I've only pointed out that I felt my integrity to have been violated by certain aspects of it. I believe I have every right as a human being to do that here - this is a democratic site, is it not? I feel no need to google IPB warningsystems. I have a layman's understanding of them which is sufficient for my needs. I am not against these systems, indeed I believe they have an important role to play in the world we live in. However, I am against not knowing that I am being monitored and having my 'warning status' recorded and published on the Internet.

Threegee, I think you did say that, as I've posted above. You later said that you could "only remember one occasion that any were used." (July 18th, 8.59am) I am not against your feeling the need to have a system for dealing with disruptive elements. I can even accept that any such system includes being given a warning before any other measures are taken - in fact I think it's only fair and adult to do so. What I am against is: my, and presumably many others being under some kind of secret surveillance. (Nobody seemed to know about this points system, not even Malcolm - a moderator, who had to ask me where Id seen these warning points mentioned) that these points are published on profiles and in forums. OK, I have no points but I may have had, and that doesn't feel very nice. I cannot see my profile or my input in the forums through the eyes of the reader, so I don't know what they see. It's a very uncanny feeling, if you'll pardon the pun.