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  1. 1. William the Conqueror ordered the compilation of which historical log? Answer = 2. What is the Medieval Latin name for Wales? Answer = Cambria 3. What type of animal lives in a holt? Answer = Otter 4. Why was the coronation of Edward VII delayed for six weeks? Answer = Abdominal abscess 5. When Ronald Reagan was President who was his vice president? Answer = 6. What is David Frost’s middle name? Answer = 7. What binding medium is used in gouache painting? Answer = 8. Which king married and divorced an Englishwoman name Toni Gardiner? Answer = 9. Which ingredient, vital to choux pastry is missing from puff pastry? Answer = 10. Which German motor car manufacturer produced the first motorcycle by fixing an engine to a frame in 1885? Answer = 11. Who wrote Watership Down? Answer = 12. Who had a dog called Gnasher? Answer = I’ll bet you didn’t know …. Tutankhamen’s coffin weighs 2 450 lb. Answer = I did.
  2. CL - the Durham Mining Museum site has a section - Mining occupations in alphabetical order :- http://www.dmm.org.uk/educate/mineocc.htm What I don't know is if the profession 'Charge Man' refers to the same as 'Chargeman' as list on the DMM. I don't know if there is also a connection to the miner in charge of the 'Shot Box' as shown, and briefly described, in James's photo in the Dr Pit & Roes album. I'm sure @James or @HIGH PIT WILMA will fully ex[plain Chargeman 1894: Person in charge Chargeman tunneller 1894: Foreman in charge of men driving a tunnel Hewers 1825: persons that hew or cut the coal from its natural situation. 1849: A man who works coals. His age ranges from 21 to 70. His usual wages (1849) are from 3s. 9d. to 4s. 3d. per day of 8 hours working, and his average employment 4 or 5 days in the week. He also has, as part of his wages, a house containing two or three rooms, according to the number in his family, and a garden, of which the average size may be 6 or 8 perches ; also a fother of small coals each fortnight, for the leading of which he pays sixpence. 1892: The hewer is the actual coal-digger. Whether the seam be so thin that he can hardly creep into it on hands and knees, or whether it be thick enough for him to stand upright, he is the responsible workman who loosens the coal from the bed. The hewers are divided into "fore-shift" and "back-shift" men. The former usually work from four in the morning till ten, and the latter from ten till four. Each man works one week in the fore-shift and one week in the back-shift, alternately. Every man in the fore-shift marks "3" on his door. This is the sign for the "caller" to wake him at that hour. When roused by that important functionary he gets up and dresses in his pit clothes, which consist of a loose jacket, vest, and knee breeches, all made of thick white flannel; long stockings, strong shoes, and a close fitting, thick leather cap. He then takes a piece of bread and water, or a cup of coffee, but never a full meal. Many prefer to go to work fasting. With a tin bottle full of cold water or tea, a piece of bread, which is called his bait, his Davy lamp, and "baccy-box," he says good-bye to his wife and speeds off to work. Placing himself in the cage, he is lowered to the bottom of the shaft, where he lights his lamp and proceeds "in by," to a place appointed to meet the deputy. This official examines each man's lamp, and, if found safe, returns it locked to the owner. Each man then finding from the deputy that his place is right, proceeds onwards to his cavel†, his picks in one hand, and his lamp in the other. He travels thus a distance varying from 100 to 600 yards. Sometimes the roof under which he has to pass is not more than three feet high. To progress in this space the feet are kept wide apart, the body is bent at right angles with the hips, the head is held well down, and the face is turned forward. Arrived at his place he undresses and begins by hewing out about fifteen inches of the lower part of the coal. He thus undermines it, and the process is called kirving. The same is done up the sides. This is called nicking. The coal thus hewn is called small coal, and that remaining between the kirve and the nicks is the jud or top, which is either displaced by driving in wedges, or is blasted down with gunpowder. It then becomes the roundy. The hewer fills his tubs, and continues thus alternately hewing and filling.
  3. @Canny lass - John Krzyzanowski posted on the Facebook group - Bygone Bedlington - was this comment :- 'Typing a list for work and came across somewhere I hadn't heard of before. It's a lease from 1739 for "Honey Sack Farm" Bedlington. Does it still exist or has anyone heard of it before. Unfortunately I can't look at the document as we are working from home. The document is part of the Ridley collection.' --------------- I know the year 1739 well before the first UK census but has the name 'Honey Sack Farm', in Bedlington, ever jumped out, and stuck with you, during your searches of the census records?
  4. @James - posted the photo on the Bygone Bedlington group to see if anyone recognised the two men but nothing so far but there were some interesting comments from Tom Eltis :- Tom Eltis I started Bedlington Dr Pit 1954 which was split into two parts you had the pit which used electric lamps and the drift where I was placed which used carbide lamps. Tom Eltis I remember when I was a timber lad leading timber into the face with the pony there was an old shotfirer He said when I'm going to fire shots hold a bit of wood in front of your flame when the shots go off the burning stick will relight it but make sure the stick is out. Tom Eltis Hi Alan when I worked at the Dr Pit the stone men who drove the roadways got their powder free but the coal fillers had to buy theirs.
  5. 1. What would you keep in a cresset? Answer = anything flammable 2. In which English county is Charnwood Forest? Answer = 3. What do we call a boat with an oval, wickerwork frame covered with a leather skin? Answer = 4. On which horse did Fred Winter win the Grand National in 1957? Answer = 5. Which footballer made a record with Lindisfarne? Answer = 6. How many children does Donald Duck have? Answer = 7. Who said “it’s not the men in my life that counts – it’s the life in my men? Answer = 8. Who, in 1907, was the first woman to receive the Order of Merit? Answer = 9. Which metal is extracted from sphalerite? Answer = Zinc 10. What was Charles Conrad the third person to do, in 1969? Answer = 11. Which member of the royal family abseiled down a dam without a safety helmet in 1998? Answer = 12. What make and model of car was James Dean driving when he crashed and died in 1955? Answer = I’ll bet you didn’t know …. The table fork was introduced to England by Thomas Coryat in 1608 Answer I didn’t
  6. I have always assumed that the terrace name had the same origins but I have never come across anything written to confirm that. These three pages - 17,18, & 20, (page 19 has photos of Front Street East) from Evan Martin's booklet, have info on the pit rows :-
  7. @Walsham Wonderer - whereas Facebook's default used to be for notifications to be automatic this groups default is the opposite so you have to set it up - @Andy Millne will put me right if I'm wrong😇 If you select the bell shape - top right hand corner next to your user Id - you can set notifications to be sent when other members select the 'Quote' (next to the + sign when you want to reply to anyone's comment. Once you have 'read and inwardly digested the info see if you can place which area of Bedlington your relatives may have worked and lived and hopefully we should be able to post photo(s) of the area, from the mid, or slightly earlier, but 20th century of the area they lived.
  8. My uncle Martin, born 1921, was a deputy in the 1960's. Can't remember him working anywhere else after the Dr Pit closed. Spent all his time, when he became chairman, at the Market Place club. Couldn't remember what pit uncle George started at - I always remember him from Cambois and finally Bates. Uncle Luke was at the Dr Pit but I always remember him as 'retired hurt'. My mam used to say his chest scars were like a map of England. He took some detonators off a group of kids that had somehow found them in the pit yard. Unfortunately they went off whilst he was returning them to their rightful place. Can't remember what pit my my uncle Bob started at, just know he ended up at Choppington but he used to live at Cornwell Crescent when first married. The only Henderson uncle not to go into the pits was Brian - joined the Royal Navy. Me mam wouldn't let me dad (from Scotland) or any of her three sons start work at the pit. I went behind her back and applied for an electrical apprenticeship at the 'A' pit but got a job at Blyth shipyard, 1965, before an apprenticeship was available at the pit.
  9. @James - cheers James. I couldn't recall having seen them before - on the Bygone Bedlington Facebook group or on here - so I was just curious as Wm ward didn't get a mention on this one. I check out the Dr pit photos as my granda, Martin Henderson (retired in the late 1950's), and a couple of my uncles worked there.
  10. It's the remembering what I've been told that gets me☺️- I need pictures
  11. @James - are you related to anyone in the photo or are these extracts from a book you have on the local area?
  12. @HIGH PIT WILMA - over to you😊
  13. I couldn't swear to it but I would say Blackbird - extract from Wikipedia = The adult male of the common blackbird (Turdus merula merula which is the nominate subspecies), which is found throughout most of Europe, is all black except for a yellow eye-ring and bill and has a rich, melodious song; the adult female and juvenile have mainly dark brown plumage. This species breeds in woods and gardens, building a neat, mud-lined, cup-shaped nest. It is omnivorous, eating a wide range of insects, earthworms, berries, and fruits. So that description doesn't fully match yours but my ageing eyes detect a 'yellow eye-ring' in two of your photos🧐
  14. @James- info added to your photo.
  15. I just can't remember having seen a Yellowhammers egg. I know it's illegal now but in the late 1950's we spent most of the spring searching for nests, with eggs, all over the Bedlington area. Down the woods, across farmers fields searching the hedgerows. I suppose I should be pleased I never found one to add to the birds egg collection my brothers and I kept.
  16. @Walsham Wonderer - some info on the Bedlington area and as you find out more about your family when they were in Bedlington we should have some photos of the colliery rows that we could add to these comments :- Bedlington had two mines – The Doctor Pit and Bedlington/Sleekburn ‘A’ Pit. When researching the Bedlington area, especially the coal mines, you will see that the town of Bedlington built its railway station next to the ‘A’ pit that opened in 1850 and the ‘A’ pit was next to the town of Sleekburn - West & East Sleekburn can still be seen on current maps. I do not know when the area name changed from Sleekburn to Bedlington Station but you can see that the people of Bedlington had to travel from Bedlington to Sleekburn to get to Bedlington’s railway station. So it’s more than likely that everyone said they were going to Bedlington station. When you find out the address of where your family was living in Bedlington we should be able to give you a bit more detail on the housing etc. in that area. So when I grew up in Bedlington in the mid 20th century everyone referred to the two areas of Bedlington as The Top End & The Station. This link to the ‘Disused Stations’ site has details good info + maps on the area of Sleekburn and the ‘A’ pit. I would be guessing that your relatives got to Bedlington via train – the Bedlington railway station was linked to the Newcastle Central Railway Station, to the South of Bedlington, and the Morpeth Railway Station to the North. http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/b/bedlington/index.shtml This map is from the Disused stations site and it has the name Sleekburn but it doesn’t have a date. This 1859 map (not very clear) shows the railway line – Wagonway - between the two pits. There are no colliery houses marked on the map for the Doctor Pit area. The ‘A’ pit area has colliery houses and they were – South Row (2 terraces) – North Row and Shop Row. The pit rows for the Doctor pit are not on the 1866 map and first appear on the 1896 map. This is a compilation of the maps. There is a row marked as Old Colliery Row on an 1897 map but it was at the East End of the town and the Doctor pit was at the West End. James posted that this row, known as ‘The Aad Pit Raa’ was built in 1840.
  17. Champion - I didn't know that - it's a few years since I sent off for a certificate. 😊👌
  18. The images I posted above are from a site called Family_Search. They are a free site and handy for checking for old records. Using the info from that site I input the details for the two children, Julia and Charles into another free site = FreeBMD. The FreeBMD site is very basic but it uses volunteers to transcribe registration records, Births - Marriages & Deaths, onto their Database. So if you have any success searching on the FreeBMD site if gives you registration info so you can apply to the Registrars Office to obtain B,M & D certificates. I'm guessing you already know most of this.. The main problem with the FreeBMD site is that you only get a name + registration reference and you have to hope you have the right person when you apply to the Registrars Office for a copy of a certificate. they used to be £9.50 per certificate but don't know what the cost is now. The FreeBMD site is :- https://www.freebmd.org.uk/ I did a very basic Birth search for Julia & Charles Hunt -= First name - Surname - Date Range Mar 1985 to Dec 1880 and the following records were returned :- The local registry office for Bedlington would be the Morpeth area so I would assume that the two records returned with the Morpeth entry could be the records that would give you the info, address etc, you are after. I will add another comment after this one with some maps of the Bedlington area showing where the the two Bedlington collieries were sited and the colliery rows that existed.
  19. Walsham Wonder - I will see what I can put together to give you a picture of the area + coal mines where you grandparents were born. I won't be able to give you any info on the 'whys or wherefores' of your great grandparents move.
  20. @James Norma Agnew commented :- I know my Uncle Tom Gordon was stable keeper for a long time but I wasn’t very old when he died so I don’t know if it is him .
  21. James - David John Gray (Bygone Bedlington Facebook group) says the man on the right, as you look at the photo, is Bob Smith, Back Shift, Overman.
  22. @James - just remembered this album by @Blank. The men carrying the banner plus the man with the cup look similar to those in the photo you posted.
  23. @HIGH PIT WILMA - I bet you have used a 'Sylvester'😇
  24. @James You probably know this but I see your photo/slide was taken in front of the Market Place club. I have seen a couple of other slides with the 'WW' + other info written on the side of the slide. All the other slides have 1952 written on them and I think I can make out 1952 on the bottom edge of this slide. I have checked the programme from the last Northumberland Miners Picnic, 1989, and it lists all the the places the picnic was held. It might have nothing to do with the slides but Bedlington's first held the picnic in 1952. I've never seen anyone comment on the slides saying that they knew who's slides they were. Written on one slide, taken outside the Black Bull, is the name Sir Charles Trevelyn + WW + 1952.
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