Alan Edgar (Eggy1948)

@Jammy A short history on the ‘Ministry’ at Longbenton where the National Insurance clerical records and subsequent electronic data base on everyone in the UK that was working or retired. The National Insurance Act started in 1911 and War pensions were paid from 1916.The department was expanded by the Labour government in 1948 to cover many more benefits. The system has been subjected to numerous amendments in succeeding years. Initially, it was a contributory form of insurance against illness and unemployment, and eventually provided retirement pensions and other benefits. In 1953 the Pensions system and National Insurance (NI) systems combined to form the Ministry of Pensions and National Insurance (MPNI) and they took over the site at Longbenton = one full group containing the 100 sections of all the clerical record sheets = an NI record sheet with full ID + address + NI contributions paid And another group containing the 52 sections and all the clerical record sheets for everyone receiving a state retirement pension. So at that point in time the MPNI had a clerical record of all the workers and pensioners. The MPNI change its name in 1963 to The Department of Social Services = DSS as most people of our age new it by when we started work. The first generation of computer systems was started in October 1961 (think it was the 4th of October) and the Graduated Pension(GP) scheme was introduced. Initially it would mean more money into the pension fund and when people retired an addition to their pension = for every £7.50 a worker paid in Graduated Pension they would get an extra 6 pence per week on top of their pension. My first wage in 1965 was about £4.10 so it took a number of years to contribute £7.50 to get a tanner in retirement. But what the start of the GP scheme did in 1961was introduce the first NI computer system on the Longbenton site. It didn’t contain full NI records but it was the start and in preparation for the next generation of computer systems to be introduced in 1970 (ICL 1906A computers with 256Killobytes (NOT GIG or MEGA TERRA etc .etc. bytes). The State Pensions (SP) scheme started its own computer system, on the Longbenton site, and in them days they did not talk to each other electronically. Updates to the records from one system to another was by writing the updates to magnetic tape and passing the tape to the other system so they could read the tape and process the updates. By 1970, 2nd Generation systems, all the info on all the NI clerical records = all active and records of those deceased (don’t know how many million it was) had been typed into a machine that added the data onto magnetic tapes. As there were 100 NI sections (00 to 99 = the last two digits of everyone’s NI number) there were what would now be called 100 separate databases containing an address for every household in the UK that had a worker paying, or had paid NI. The same applied to the clerical pension records but they had 52 sections = 1 for every week of the year as you pension number was based on the week of the year you were born (Jan 1st to 7th pension number ended in 01 – born Dec 25th to 31st pension number ended in 52). Following that all benefit systems, eg Family Allowance (FA), had their own computer systems and databases (tape) with address records + benefit data and data updates between the systems was buy sending a magnetic tape from one system to whatever other system needed an update to its records. The 1980s saw the 3rd generation of computer systems (ICL 2980s) but the transfer of data between systems was still via magnetic tape. In 1990 things started to move faster and the new systems, 4th generation, could update each other electronically. By then everyone in the UK had a record on one of the systems so every address in the UK was on one or more of the systems. Since then the new generations were not 10 years apart; all magnetic tape records were now on discs (terrabytes in size), and all systems were updating each other electronically. So every system new about every other system and when letters had to be sent out each system could do their bit to keep the whole of the UK informed and not duplicate anything.

@tullybrone - A 1948 map + aerial shots from Google Street View to show the Bedlington 'A' pit and Doctor pit areas. Of course any resident of Bedlington Station could easily have worked at the Doctor pit but I would assume around the start of the 20th century if the miners didn't live in the colliery houses then they lived as close as possible to the colliery they worked at. Unfortunately the only way I can think of to prove which pit the family worked at would be if they had been killed in an acident at the pit and that 'might' be recorded in the list of names in the 'In Memoriam' section of the Durham Mining Museun site :- http://www.dmm.org.uk/collnear/b022.htm

Nooo, mines perfect🧐. I was just pointing out to Steve that the old maps show the area as Sleekburn - even the one above has Bedlington Colliery (A Pit) and the name Sleekburn on the east side of the railway gates.🙃

@tullybrone - in a book The Archive Series, Bedlingtonshire - compiled by Evan Martin (lived and worked in the town) there is this photo of Phoenix Row plus some info :- I have looked at some of the old maps - maps.nls.uk & old-maps.co.uk and can't find a map with Phoenix Row named. I can't prove it but my guess is that this could be it on this 1896 (published 1898) map. The area now is St John's Way & St John's Crescent. You will note the name Sleekburn appears on many of the old maps. I don't know the year that the Sleekburn area changed it's name to Bedlington Station. After I have done some 'clarting' (local word for preparing/playing/etc) I will post an aerial shot of the Bedlington 'A' pit (used to be Sleekburn 'A) so you can see it's position in relation to Phoenix Row.

@tullybrone - I see I had seen your enquiry before, under your posting of Bedlington Station - Miners Houses Ownership back in 2013 and you were asked to move it to the Puddler's Raa[Row] topic. As you will have noticed one topic often gets diverted and mixed up with others. I will post my first info on Phoenix Row under your original topic - Bedlington Station - Miners Houses Ownerships - rather than continue mixing it up with this one.

@Canny lass - the more maps I look at on the Old maps & NLS sites it just gets more confusing. I think the cartographers of that period must have spent the afternoons in the local pub discussing, , what would go where. I looked at two maps today and the 1897 shows Puddlers Row where @Jammy new it, just off Stead Lane, and the 1865 map shows Puddlers Row where Glassey Terrace is now.

Steve - I am no historian only know about where I was born and raised, Bedlington Station area, and can occasionally remember bits and piesces that have been posted within this site and the local Facebook group Bygone Bedlington. I will see what I can find and will update you over the next few days. Whilst I am searching I can tell you that Phoenix Row (can't remember having seen the name on any old maps) was Bedlington Station (previously know as Sleekburn) and if that is where your relatives lived then it would most likely have been Bedlington 'A' Pit where they worked. There were two pits - The Doctor Pit is what the locals know as Bedlington Top End. I will post some photos and info later. There is a site called the Durham Mining Museum (DMM) and it has records of all the pits in the Northumberland and Durham area. Unfortunately it doesn't have names of all who worked there the only names it records are those who lost their lives at each of the pits. This is a link to the DMM site :- http://www.dmm.org.uk/collnear/b022.htm You will find using the search facility, top right hand corner, useful. Searching for a phrase then use quotation marks eg. "Phoenix Row" otherwise the system up all references to the words input - searching for a single word then quotes not required. Alan

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@wdmytrenko - this is an updated photo (also posted above). We have number 18 as your old pal Dennis Smith but numbers 16 and 17 were named by a member, Claire Ellis, of the Bygone Bedlington Facebook group who posted this comment :- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Claire Ellis My dad says he is 17- Ted Ellis, and his brother Jim Ellis is 16 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you confirm numbers 16 & 17 are you and your brother I will update the names

Don't know about Bedlington - @John Fox (foxy) and @Jammy should. Seghill very quiet for the 5 months. I've been watching out the window whilst Jacquie works away in the garden, without her specs so she can't tell a weed from a new flower shoot.

@Canny lass - I think this was the info I had stuck in my memory = @Reedy's dads info.

I'm sure we have some info on the naming of Glassey Terrace in an old topic. Will have to have a search

@tullybrone - whilst searching for some info I have just noticed your comment asking about Phoenix Row, Clayton Street and what local pit your relatives would have been working at. Looks like your comments were lost among the other topics that were active at the time. If you are still accessing the site and still looking for info I will see if I can help you.🙂

Not that my aging reflexes (mine are more involuntary reflexes these days) would ever make the grade I'm just curious as to what you do to earn money with your hobby :-

My money is on 'No' but @Malcolm Robinson & @Bill Crosby could prove me wrong😌

Watch loads of football but I have to turn the volume down to 0, cam't stand the Sky 'crowd noise'. I find it's just a constant droning noise that's even worse than the commentators going on and on about pointless stats.🤓