i was too old to take it unfortunatly, but i did get a nice pen off them!! :D I thought you might know something cympil... i've heard 4 stories at work so far: 1, Manager is up on sexual offence charges relating to male staff, and has been shut to preserve evedence 2, Manager was caught with his hand in the till 3, The organisation that owns the pub owes the brewery thousands, which they say the manager should be liable for, even tho they told him to put on offers that wouldnt make money. The brewery have since been in to reclaim stock and other items with the aid of bailiffs! 4, the manager spent the takings installing a security system that could listen in on the conversations being had all over the pub, to stop theft from staff and collusion with customers, and subsiquently banckrupted the place :D Thats ASDA for you!!! Wonder if any of this is close to the truth??