I think so, yes... This is exactly what i'm talking about tho. Alot of businesses will not put up with it, and it should really be kept to a section where it is allowed, not talk of the town. everyone likes a bit of laugh and carry on, and this forum is set up perfectly for it, having an announcements section for serious announcements, and TOTT for the serious discussion, along with chat central for completely and totally ripping the piss out of every letter and innuendo of the announcement. I just think you need the chat part kept completly seperate, where members who dont subscribe dont see it, and those that do realise its all a bit of fun, and not serious at all. De-ja-vou? Broken record springs to mind Sorry, i just like the site, and want to do what i can to make it better for all....