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Kipling?! No need, my mum bought 'IF' for me when I was little and hung it on the wall. Can't say I've still got it word for word, but most of it is still there. The WSJ is good reading though: Shall we agree that the answer to his question is an emphatic NO?

Article 50 was designed 'NEVER to be used' - says the man who wrote the EU divorce clause "When it comes to the economy they have to lose.” Hmm... what a truly marvellous club to belong to!

What, no afterlife?! You do understand that that's so heretical that you could easily be slaughtered on the spot? Meanwhile, do leave the shorts in the drawer. You're right; I think I will convert to Islam. Do they do waterproof Qurans - so that I can study in the pool?

Yes, I know, I know, all journalists, of all political persuasions - including left-wing journalists who really really wish it wasn't true - lie in their teeth about Sweden (to sell newspapers), and everything government-bought academics say is unassailable. How's the planet that Sweden has moved to doing, though it looks like Finland (and likely Norway too) is still on planet Earth? Finland showdown with Brussels after Finns rule 77% of Iraqi migrants could be sent home Follows: Attack on credibility of DE ("direct lines to the tory government and now this" - different paper of different political persuasion, actually). Syntactic analysis of text to demonstrate that black=white. implications that poster is know-it-all simply because he listens to the breadth of what is being said ("My word you do have inside information on a lot of things"). Patronising derision ("You may just have read way too much Enid Blyton as a youngster.") Argument invalid because poster carelessly hit apostrophe. Ad hominem attack on people the poster profoundly disagrees with, but respects their views and right to say it (Red Ken). Declaration that poster is mentally unbalanced. (Lost argument flag). Let's change the subject (What's the weather like where you are?). ...anything but address the actual issue raised in an honest manner. Obviously missed quite a few there, but I'm sure you will help out! [UPDATE] Thanks! Quote Kipling to falsely imply poster is upset (I like the Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools bit, myself.)

Merc, did you notice that your Remainian friends are talking about you in the Torygraph? How Brexit can set Britain free to boom again

The 24th June 2016.

Yes, I'm irritated that you are exploiting the rules to post off topic here. (Though nothing like as irritated as you get when I wind you up). But, you know, (forum) rules are the rules, so please go tell the people who are bad losers, and who you are supporting, this. The norm is not the subject for conversation here, and you become acclimatised after three or four years.. We just have to hunker down in a pool, and maybe order a new aircon now and then. And, of course, there's siesta. If you can't afford the (politically) inflated electricity prices - they are far higher for non-residents (politics, again) - you can always go to a shopping mall and use their aircon over an unbelievably cheap cup of coffee until near sundown. It's a hell of a life, but it still beats the frozen North for most of the year. Pity about the economy being trashed by the ECB, but things will change; the Italians may be slow at times (this is balanced by the need for speed), but they certainly aren't stupid.. Was there still too much politics there?

Wouldn't it have been more appropriate to quote the actual phrase you referred to in your assertion? (This would have enabled more accurate syntactic analysis by cohort CL.) Do you want Sterling to fall, or do you want it to rise, and against what reference? A simple question, and a straight answer would be nice. In the absence of an answer your position looks a bit like the position of the Labour Party on many issues: we will will cherry pick reality to suit our narrative, even if the overwhelming body of evidence says we were utterly wrong. My own position is clear: "the pound is fine just where it is." Today's rate is well off the recent lows and maintaining a fairly steady €1.20 and that's just fine. All hell is about to break lose in the Eurozone, so you'd be well advised not to bet against your own house. As I've already said, our problem now is that we are still far too close to the EZ for comfort, as we have been foolishly committed to the ESM for political reasons. Unlike yourself I truly hope I'm wrong, and that the ESM demands won't roll in. If they do it will be political dynamite, and another affirmation of the urgent need to leave.

Yawn! The usual diversionary ad hominem attack - this time on good old Red Ken. I agree with hardly anything Ken says. BUT I think Ken is an honest man who says what he genuinely thinks. Ken recently spoke about Nazism and made some interesting, utterly factual, observations. The Labour Party doesn't like the truth, and failing to shut him up suspended him. (To use your words: shame on them.) Unlike yourself I don't feel any need to agree with anyone to give them credit for being honest and transparent. Ergo: Yes, really! [Don't worry, I'm working through the other reams of rambling misconstrued garbage and diversionary off-topic stuff, as time permits.]

The Bedlington View on the timing of Brexit.

So where is there an explanation of WHY the taxpayer is required to fund the defence of a multi-millionaire? Is he hiding behind his former office? Anyone?

You entirely miss the point - it was rhetorical. The point is that we don't know the extent of the problems in Sweden because there is an establishment cover-up taking place. The ruling elites are covering up the consequences of their own pet political theories. Like CL they are in all-out denial mode. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jan/13/sex-assaults-sweden-stockholm-music-festival If there is more than a handful of genuine refugees - as you seem to believe - then why are they practically all young males?

I know about what I know about and say clearly when I don't know. I don't give a XXXX about the "Oxford comma", and deploy commas where it seems logical they should go. Also I don't constantly imply you are a "know all", even though a lot of what you say is unreasoned leftie cant - though often tinged with some interesting economic realism. As I've already said there is nothing to recover from - the pound is fine just where it is. If Italy could devalue its currency like that it wouldn't be the economic basket case it now is and people here wouldn't be really suffering. Actually, it would now need to devalue by over three times the UK adjustment, and the debt spiral continues. I think the Italian politicians could say to hell with the ECB and recapitalise the banks anyway, but bank recapitalisation isn't enough as it is still labouring under a currency that is now about 35% overvalued. I think the sad truth is that there's no other visible affects of the Brexit vote to point to, but you really really want there to be negatives. Prove me wrong here; open your eyes to just some of the many positives, and stop talking down our great country.

Actually it's two if you count the potential for new Land Rover production. You ignore the essential point that the mass relocation of business isn't happening, or even being considered. Not "are very concerned" but were sounding very concerned. Economist group-think also affects business leaders, but there were also many business leaders who saw the upside who's views weren't given full exposure by a largely EU compliant media. You are referring to Jim Ratcliffe, and in no way did he want to not pay the taxes due. He asked for a little flexibility in scheduling, and like many things EU no flexibility was forthcoming because one size fits all. Well... we have the flexibility now, and you are going to "be more than happy" when we use it to the advantage of the people of these isles. I'm more interested in home-grown enterprise than imported, but both will happen. A further eurozone crisis is just months if not weeks away, and we are still too attached for comfort. October does not look good.

Rather than companies relocating to the EU as was claimed the reverse is happening: Ineos moves international HQ back to UK Interestingly:

IMF slashes UK growth forecasts after Brexit - but Britain will still outstrip Germany, France and Italy Obviously a quite different IMF from this one: IMF says Brexit would trigger UK recession

I hope you enjoy the favourable exchange rate for a good long time, though I certainly won't be complaining when it improves.

Really?! I'm tempted to say physician heal thyself, but will simply say goodnight!

"It’s enough that it’s a newspaper!" Wow, how nice to live in a world of absolutes, and such certainty! Time after time you've done nothing of the sort. University degrees don't trump hard experience - the rehearsal is not the show! You repeatedly talk down the press, and talk up academics, yet the same economic forces hold for both. So, what precisely have I claimed to be an expert on? Here you've plucked a remark I made in a photo comment about TV aerials from over half a century ago in order to disparage me, and done so without any knowledge of my engineering and financial management experience or accomplishments. I think that maybe your "specializing in one subject" could be viewed as the apocryphal person with a hammer (i.e. viewing everything as a nail). The world has more facets than any of us can ever behold, and a full appreciation of that fact only comes through age and experience - and certainly not through lexical analysis. On your second "challenge": You know that I can only speak from experience. My experience is that practically everything that appears in the Telegraph about the Tory party will turn out to be correct, and that's not the case with any other publication. Obviously journalists don't (and mostly can't) reveal their sources, but (libel laws aside) they do have reputations to maintain, and thrive or not by their acquired reputations. No, you can't simply dismiss it with a trite they "manipulate text to sell copies". I suspect that many academics only maintain their reputations by proxy i.e. much of what they churn out is so thoroughly uninteresting that no one critical ever studies it. And, whether is is relevant or not to the ascent of man becomes itself a proxy issue. BTW I have not the faintest idea of what an "Oxford comma" is!

You are talking down your own country in repeatedly implying that an emergency budget may be necessary when every bit of economic news says it's surely not. I did not vote for "Her Majesty’s democratically elected, Government" and have every right to point out its deficiencies - it's called democracy! We live in a free country, though that may no longer be true where you now live. Cameron is a proven liar, even (no, particularly) his own party don't trust him. He's history now, and I have never criticised May; that's because so far she has acted honestly, even though I may not entirely agree fully with the direction we are now going in. If you follow the news you'll observe that May has made it very clear that she too is appalled by the way the Eton crowd have been playing games with the management of the country. Refer me to a copy of this constitution that I disparage, and point out this actual disparagement please? Of course you don't criticise: you live in a society where the truth has been taken hostage, and anyone who speaks it is labelled an extremist. Would you be talking about Shariah law there or the one the rest of us obey? How many rapes and other atrocities have Muslim "refugees" committed in Sweden this week? Sorry, but I don't want my country to turn in to the basket case that the liberal left has turned Sweden into. France is now waking up to its fate, and you are not going to like what now happens there one little bit, but that is where you apologists for a primitive belief-set that has no place in the modern world are taking much of Europe. I have nothing to be ashamed of, and please keep the school marm lectures and hectoring back in school - where they belong!

Someone who should be admired for "having the guts" to readily admit they were stupidly wrong.

Really?! If so I'd like to apologise. What am I apologising for? I've explained why this article is authoritative in the reply to CL.

I quoted from the Torygraph because it has multiple direct lines into the heart of the Tory government. If I'd wanted to convey what Rupert Murdoch felt on an issue I'd quote from The Times. e.g. The Times got it quite wrong in it's "inside info" on some of May's appointments, though, granted, its mischief did put her into power. The operative word was emergency, and that emergency stemmed from the sudden affects of the Brexit vote. Budgets come along with regularity and are well signposted. There is a logical linkage between cause and effect, no? This linkage is undoubtedly bidirectional: no immediate action, no emergency! Do you take emergency holidays abroad? Most people book holidays well in advance, but in case you haven't you'll need a plausible(?) excuse! http://www.careeroverview.com/blog/2010/100-reliable-and-ridiculous-excuses-for-calling-out-of-work/ My choice: #61. There was a car accident. (Because the driver started to discuss the linguistics of the screamed warning.) That will surely do it!

My friends these days are investors, and they are not all UK based or of UK nationality. They can't help me with the question I directed at you because they don't have any problem. But, apparently, you do have a problem yet fail to advise as to what that problem specifically is. Here be dragons really isn't good enough these days (as Duplicitous Dave discovered quite recently). Put your money where your mouth is and make me a bet that Article 50 won't be invoked (and/or the European Communities Act (1972) revoked) within one year of today's date. I will happily pay up even if I'm just one day long.

ARM Holdings employs four thousand people in the UK. ARM do not "deal ... in" IP they create it! The $32Billion goes straight into the hands of mainly UK based technology funds and investors (like Herman Hauser and some of my long-term investor friends) who will reinvest a lot of it into UK technology. This, of course, has nothing to do with politics or the sclerotic, outdated, EU - it's about real business! My feeling is that we don't need the BBC when we have you and CL to talk down the UK. Yes, please make an exception, and talk about something you know just a tiny bit about. BTW how much do you have invested in British technology companies?