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Everything posted by threegee
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It could be as it's a link - I will capture it for you.
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That's great, then please revisit your entirely disinterested comments in the light of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Reckless does this meet with your wish for official endorsement on the issue, or should we hold out for the result of Chilcot to see if it gets a mention there?
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Opening shot: 3 police though one might have been council official. (no turbans or policewomen) 1:26: Two or three police. 1:31: One police (one with turban) plus a rather threatening policeman or council official. 1:35: Policeman with turban again, plus policewoman. 1:38 ditto. 1:40 ditto. 2:02 Three police officials obviously pressuring "GO" stall which clearly isn't causing any traffic or pedestrian obstruction. 2:22 Two police again, with Remain stall not being harassed. It would appear that the prime motivator here was a councillor and his officials, and that the police were only doing what they were asked to do by the council. I know from practical experience how amazingly camera shy our police can be, and these don't appear to be exceptional in that respect. If I said something like "there is something about that video which doesn't quite ring true" you'd have derided my lack of hard evidence. Yet, here you display a baffling degree of criticality for someone who otherwise offers excuses for (and clearly sides with those who wish to turn a blind eye to) mass sex crimes! "I have no interest one way or the other." Oh, I think you surely do!
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The Labour Party could be gutted to find that they've now lost one of their very safest seats. But... you may simply being prophetic for 2020 here, as Ukip has gone from zero to biting the heels of the Welsh Nats in the Welsh Assembly. Unlike you I've mostly missed Wales on my travels, but I'm really starting to warm to the Welsh in my old age - Iechyd da!
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Could it be possible that - like many enterprises - the proprietors/workers feel strongly motivated to preserve our democracy, and are simply doing what they do best using the facilities to hand? No £699 / 3.5 min charge, and no warning bells there! Why would Ukip Wales even know about this - yet? It's not just kippers who feel strongly about EU intrusion into every aspect of their lives - it's people across the political spectrum (excepting those who haven't now completely sold out on their once sincerely held beliefs, like Jeremy C!).
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http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/679270/Germany-cut-Britain-off-EU-single-market-Brexit Hang on in there: didn't Honest Dave tell us that there's absolutely, positively, genuinely, cast-iron-promisingly, no going back from an LEAVE vote? And, how can Germany possibly make such a commitment on behalf of the other 26 "nations"? It's almost as if Germany thinks they will all do exactly as they are told by the Fuhrer - oops German Chancellor! Confused? Well... take heart... you're certainly nothing like as confused as both the Tory and Labour parties! Seems like the "fruitcakes and swivel-eyed loons" are the only ones who've been consistently telling it as it is!
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It seems that the Witches of Davewick have gifted Boris a significant sympathy vote. Ms Izzard made an utter fool of him/her/self. Exactly what the BBC Guardinistas were thinking when they chose Izzard to represent the Remain case could be a long discussion on another thread. My first guess might be that it could reveal Nigel Farage's essential "bigotry" toward LGBT (did I get all this week's initials right?) people and by implication that he was a "racist" too. Was the pink beret Che-Guevara-symbolic of a "pink" revolutionary, but - more importantly - did it match the lipstick? As someone who supports the Fourth Reich, accusing Nigel Farage of betraying his Huguenot roots was choice!
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I think these ex-pats have been done a disservice by the media. I'd like to place money on the fact that the great majority will vote for their country and not for any mistakenly believed self interest. Very few ex-pats are fooled by the silly threats of them losing their homes or being forced to return to the UK, or any of the other nonsense coming out of Dodgy Dave's campaign back-door. Most of them know someone who is English speaking in their area who comes from a non-EU country (USA, Canada etc.) and get to swap experiences. Apart from the odd extra form to fill in there's nothing significantly different in their lifestyle, and everyone there before Brexit has acquired rights under the Vienna Convention anyway. They all pay significant amounts into the local economy (unlike the lies being told about them "living and working in the EU"), and if the UK were to retaliate against that nations' citizens who hold down UK jobs the host nation would suffer a double economic hit. These are generally countries that the EU has already forced to join the bread line, and have huge levels of unemployment. Even if they were ordered by Brussels eurocrats to break international law they wouldn't comply. And, just suppose this were to happen in certain areas, what Brit would want to live in and pay tax into a country that didn't want them, when there are a host of English-speaking countries in the world that would love to take their retirement money? The truth is that there's already huge anti-EU feeling in these countries, and an EU being seen to be spiteful towards a national grouping, and flouting international law, would tip even more decent people over into the anti camp - so, an EU own goal several times over!
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The absurd thing is that a majority of Sturgeon's own members support Brexit, so she's not even representative of her own little grossly overrepresented party! Yet this doesn't stop Dave and his cronies peddling the lie that a Brexit would presage the breakup of the UK. Even the most nationalistic elements in the SNP have noted the oil price collapse, and appreciate the utter basket case Scotland would now be if they'd got their way. The worst profits of doom didn't come close to predicting the total wipe-out of oil revenues to Scotland. The SNP had a very lucky escape from their own greed and anti-English sentiment, and can only thank their older and wiser citizens for this. The only threat to UK unity comes from the regionalisation plans of the EU, but Remain doesn't want to discuss that issue!
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This is true, but many people can't identify with such an abstract concept, so it needs to be phrased in something like the "we want our country back!" slogan. I've been heartened by the number of young people (apparently it's about 58%), who have already seen past the "let's all hold hands" nonsense spewed out by leftie teachers, the media, and NWO loons. Apparently you create a NWO by tearing down everything which our ancestors believed in, and many gave their lives for, and (as Gorbachev so ably put it) "recreating the Soviet Union". Well, that one caused universal misery and economic disaster the first time around, so calling it something else isn't going to deliver a better result. They claim to be creating another United States of America, completely papering over the numerous and fundamental differences. Somehow - and no one can tell us exactly how - if we really really wish for it enough all the practical difficulties will simply disappear. When Paxo referred to the 13 year-old guardinista juveniles running the BBC he might have included the so-called Remainers in this. A harmonious Europe is one that is ease with its past and can easily accommodate national differences - not a doctrinaire, one-size-fits-all. one which sets out to pretend that they don't exist, or - Soviet style - can otherwise be legislated away by an elite ruling class.
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The REAL "surprises"come after the referendum: the EU budget with an unfunded twenty billion black-hole in it; the mega bill from Brussels for the UK to fund Merkel's migrant crisis; Junker's EU Army being waved through; Turkey being fast-tracked through EU admission (the deal has already been done); the regionalisation of Europe to obliterate national boundaries; the amnesia about Dodgy Dave's no-treaty-change deal; the UK being sucked into propping up the Euro; the universal EU tax system; the implementation of the EU UBI funded by the British tax payer (wow, think on the migrant draw there!); the legalised theft from British bank accounts (already law!); TTIP; and of course the rapid expansion of EUROGENDFOR to crush any public opposition to any of this, and more, happening. Meanwhile... the compliant media will get the public all in a tizz about unjustified EU directives on the power of British electric kettles! Suddenly, the benefit of not having to change your money when you go on holiday - which was what deceptively bought many a young-and-naive vote (like mine) in 1975 - seems a little quaint!
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I think that maybe you are missing the point there (and maybe they should just reward Blair for keeping his mouth shut as he alienates more former Labour voters than Tories) but it's the equivalent of codgers still wearing the old school tie. You need to make a public display that you are still solidly in the EU elites club until your dying day. It really doesn't matter if even your peers despise you (privately they do), it's playing the game by the club's rules that matters to your continued position and, yes, "influence". In Blair's case the channelled money from international business and banks would dry up in an instant if he said anything that was remotely critical of the EU. The economic impact on private jet manufacture and maintenance organisations would be cruel. And, at a time when the plummeting oil price has made it so cost-effective to burn thousands of gallons of fuel for just one person to attend yet another international "climate change" conference too!
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"The PM wants you to know that IF... nod, nod, wink, you know what I mean marm?. And... about that cabinet reshuffle on 24th June... which of the filthy Brexit supporters jobs could you see yourself filling? But, maybe it's time you were considering that Euro non-job - elections are so disrupting to one's lifestyle - and of course the generous benefits aren't subject to the appalling public scrutiny MPs now have to endure."
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Former defence secretary Sir John Nott has suspended his Tory party membership until Cameron is removed: I think we all know what his diplomatic "borders on dishonesty" is code for!
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Well, he may not be technically mine (yes, I'd have to Google for that), but he sends me an email once a week, and is the one that properly represents me. http://www.jonathanarnott.co.uk/ ...and - totally unlike the rest of them - he's working hard to put himself out of a job. Exactly my kind of politico! Nor (Ms Morgan) is he a racist, xenophobe, or any other casual leftist epithet you care to sprinkle around to justify your own extreme bigotry and assumed victimhood!
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Ah, well, the irony that Nigel would like to replace white euro-trash immigration by commonwealth immigration regardless of race or colour could be a little lost on Ms Morgan! It's actually people like her who give the extreme right credibility; this forms a convenient symbiotic dependency. Anyway, she needn't explain her vocation: plain for all to see that it's Professional Victim!
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What's shaping up as sinister is the utterances of Clan Cameron! This is the stuff of armed uprisings Lord Snooty - remember Boston! I think it will be a lot more subtle than a plain ignore; in true EU fashion we'll be asked to go back and think again until we give the answer that the elites need to hear. It won't be put like that though: It will be continuing EU membership wrapped up as a trade deal, and all the EU controls will be pitched as essential to necessary continued trade. We won't truly break free until we restore popular democracy by kicking all the establishment parties hard in the proverbials. Until this is done in a really decisive manner Joe and Jane Citizen is still going to be treated with contempt.
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Not even a few minutes hence - so those weather people have a distinct edge! This was very simply explained to me many years ago by a friend who worked at Lehman Brothers NY. The truth is that if anyone (and that includes financial analysts and economists) knew significantly more than the market on a consistent basis then the market wouldn't function. The armies of financial workers make their living from fixed commissions on other people's money, and telling their employers what their employers want to hear - not by having any unique insights into what's really going to happen.
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The same reason primitive societies have witch doctors: in the absence of anything genuinely scientific it pays well!
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Pretty much the opinion of all the investors I know, and they too have a rather dim view of professional economists. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/investing/shares/why-the-stock-market-wont-even-notice-brexit/ Seems to me that not only don't economists understand how things work, but the chattering classes are in for a few lessons too.
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You need to reread that Merc. I was talking about the TWO principal Out groupings. The smaller Tory-led one got the ticket, even after the much larger leave.eu joined forces with Labour-led cross-party Grassroots Out, but is anyone surprised?
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You can practically see the brain working there. Before every single phrase he's thinking how are these next few words going to affect my place in history. Like Cameron - yesterday's man!
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Yes, even stopped clocks get it precisely right twice a day! Slapped down: David Cameron faces hostility in TV interrogation Best laugh I've had all week. Sample: So, now we know: Turkey's joining the EU in year 3000 is only an "ambition". When it actually bribes its way in - as Dave is ever burrowing hard to facilitate - in eighteen months time, it won't be (another) Dodgy Dave broken promise, it will simply be a cruelly dashed ambition.
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Void?! I don't think so. The establishment-friendly electoral commission will do a bit token grumbling, but wave a rigged result through nevertheless. How do you think the Out campaign with the least popular support got selected to be the lead campaign, and got all the funding? The establishment looks after its own - even those who are being a tiny bit irksome. The trick is to give the illusion of democracy whist giving as little ground to actual popular democracy as possible.